‘Mr. Wonderful’ slams Trump ruling: ‘You might as well find guilty every real estate developer on Earth’

[Marener]

And nobody lost any money, no one was harmed, everyone got what they wanted from the loan/contract.

And you really think they didn't do their own due diligence?

Depends on what you mean by due diligence. That’s a vague term which could mean different things to different people.

Doesn’t change the fact that Trump gave the bank false information.

That’s fraud.

 

[Care4all]

Trump submitted values that the bank checked and negotiated with him on.

No one lost any money, and none of the banks have claimed fraud against them.

He did? The bank checked his evaluations on his certified to be true, financial asset form?

Well, if that were the case, the bank is just as dirty as trump and could be the next trial to come...

Trump fraudulently exaggerated the value of his assets and worth over the decade in all of his loans applied for, by 800% to 2000% for each one.

I doubt Mr. Wonderful ever committed that extent of fraud, nor any other businessman in New York falsely made those kind of claims.

Why did Trump? What was his purpose?

 

[martybegan]

The judge disagreed with you and his opinion is the only one that matters.
Besides, it is a moot point now. The judgement is in and even though Trump is really good at stringing his sheeple cultists along waiting for the next "big thing" ("BIG announcement....next week, VINDICATION....on appeal," ect.) this case doesn't have a chance of being successfully appealed.
The evidence is airtight and straightforward. There is zero room for doubt that NY laws were broken by The Trump Org. for decades.
Also look at the track record Trump has in this appellate court on this case.
Yeah....not good.
I don't even know why you MAGAts continue to circle-jerk here about this ruling.
You're not going to change or affect anything.
Trump lost.
Period.
End of story.
Deal with it, get over it, and move on.
In fact, get used to it.
He's going to be losing a LOT more in this upcoming year. If you are going to remain on the Trump Train then I guess you will be a loser too.
Enjoy!

The appeals court's opinion will matter, and failing that a federal court's opinion will matter.

That you had to spread out your response shows you don't actually understand any of this, you just see the result and start jerking off to it.

 

[Marener]

You sound completely ridiculous, keep spewing the same bullshit, every time you do you look like loon.

Stop trolling.

 

[OldFlame]

And nobody lost any money, no one was harmed, everyone got what they wanted from the loan/contract.

And you really think they didn't do their own due diligence?

That's exactly what the idiot thinks. A quarter of a billion dollar deal done on word alone.

 

[surada]

Trump submitted values that the bank checked and negotiated with him on.

No one lost any money, and none of the banks have claimed fraud against them.

Read Art of the Deal. Trump bragged that if you owe enough money, you own the lender.

 

[hadit]

The issue isn’t the property he placed as collateral but the financial condition of his overall organization.

The facts remain that Trump did not have a stellar reputation. The proof is that the bank required a personal guarantee.

Oh, so then the bank did a careful assessment of the collateral offered and agreed to its value? If they did not trust TRUMP! and ALSO did not check the offered value of the collateral, are they not guilty of financial malpractice?

 

[Billiejeens]

You must be a homosexual.

Are you saying that it's a requirement?

 

[martybegan]

Depends on what you mean by due diligence. That’s a vague term which could mean different things to different people.

Doesn’t change the fact that Trump gave the bank false information.

That’s fraud.

That's negotiating, not fraud.

Again, where is the harmed party?

 

[Billiejeens]

Read Art of the Deal. Trump bragged that if you owe enough money, you own the lender.

And?

 

[hadit]

That's exactly what the idiot thinks. A quarter of a billion dollar deal done on word alone.

And the lender didn't trust the applicant!!

 

[martybegan]

Read Art of the Deal. Trump bragged that if you owe enough money, you own the lender.

He isn''t the first one to say that:

If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem. J Paul Getty.

 

[OldFlame]

Stop trolling.

How many times have you made the same post... all you have is what was said and released by the show trial, a complete farce of corruption and injustice. You have zero knowledge of the procedures, laws, regulations, or processes a bank has to go through to put out that kind of money to one individual. You are a naive child believing that one piece of paper was submitted and a quarter of a billion dollars was handed out. Beyond ridiculous.

Oh, and fuck off, I'll post as much as I want to.

 

[Marener]

That's negotiating, not fraud.

Again, where is the harmed party?

What “negotiating”? Trump gave the bank false information.

Thats the fraud. Has nothing to do with negotiating.

Are you okay with people giving banks false financial information?

 

[Marener]

He isn''t the first one to say that:

It’s true. The rules are different for the elites. That’s probably why Deutsche Bank wouldn’t ever try to take Trump to court over his fraud.

But if it were one of us, watch out.

 

[martybegan]

What “negotiating”? Trump gave the bank false information.

Thats the fraud. Has nothing to do with negotiating.

Are you okay with people giving banks false financial information?

The only one item that could be considered this is the square footage thing, and the rest is open to interpretation, as most property an business valuations are open to.

So that's worth a 450M fine?

 

[martybegan]

It’s true. The rules are different for the elites. That’s probably why Deutsche Bank wouldn’t ever try to take Trump to court over his fraud.

But if it were one of us, watch out.

How much money has Trump made for that bank and other banks?

Rules are different because the banks can make real money of the larger loans.

 

[Marener]

How many times have you made the same post... all you have is what was said and released by the show trial, a complete farce of corruption andhat kind of money to one individual. You are a naive child believing that one piece of paper was submitted and a quarter of a billion dollars was handed out. Beyond ridiculous.

Oh, and fuck off, I'll post as much as I want to.

I’ll keep posting it until someone addresses it with a factual rebuttal.

 

[martybegan]

I’ll keep posting it until someone addresses it with a factual rebuttal.

The fact is you suck fascist cock.

 

[OldFlame]

Are we now saying the bank officers that loaned TRUMP! all that money without bothering to check on the value of the property he put up for collateral were monumentally stupid because they believed he would pay them back completely and on time (which, of course, he did)? Should they not then be fired from the bank for stupidity and malpractice? Either he had a stellar reputation, and they didn't think they needed to check on the property value, or he didn't and they checked and gave him the loan anyway, believing the property was as valuable as he said.

They don't have the option to not do their due diligence in verifying any collateral that is put up for a loan, it would go against SEC regulation, banking laws, as well as their internal risk policies and a myriad of other kinds of red tape. It's laughable that they are even trying to make that argument to begin with.