MTP: Climate Change Discussion - no Deniers

[Fort Fun Indiana]

isnt that the point creep,,,we've been given no facts

Then go educate yourself

 

[Oddball]

I'm in a "debate"

Please... Remove your own dick from your mouth.... you are no more "in a debate"than any flat earther...

Still no argument or evidence, huh?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All you have is name calling....

*And all of the published science

 

[Oddball]

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Lol, you've refused to acknowledge the facts you've been given over and over.

Which "facts"?

 

[LoneLaugher]

A comprehensive conversation requires a wide range of viewpoints, including contrarians.

You never know what might pop up.

We just no longer care about that, because we're no longer listening.
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And that is exactly what we are calling for. A comprehensive conversation regarding the best ways to combat climate change. I’m wide open to listening to any and all ideas related to combating the effects of climate change. Let’s have em.

The conversation regarding the existence of climate change has been had. The facts and evidence are not in dispute. Those who want to keep having that conversation so that a pretense of civility can be maintained are being disingenuous. That’s you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Still no argument or evidence, huh?

Right...no argument and evidence....just a magical, overwhelming scientific consensus, based on nothing but the urge to fool trailer park creatures like you...

 

[Oddball]

All you have is name calling....

*And all of the published science

There's a LOT of published science debunking the alarmists.....I guess that doesn't count in the temple of St. Michael Mann of the Holy Tree Rings, huh?

 

[Oddball]

Still no argument or evidence, huh?

Right...no argument and evidence....just a magical, overwhelming scientific consensus, based on the urge to fool trailer park creatures like you...

"Consensus" isn't science, Pyle.

 

[Oddball]

And that is exactly what we are calling for. A comprehensive conversation regarding the best ways to combat climate change. I’m wide open to listening to any and all ideas related to combating the effects of climate change. Let’s have em.

The conversation regarding the existence of climate change has been had. The facts and evidence are not in dispute. Those who want to keep having that conversation so that a pretense of civility can be maintained are being disingenuous. That’s you.

First you have to accept the absurd: that man can control the weather.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There's a LOT of published science debunking the alarmists...

There is zero published science debunking the scientific consensus. That's why you are trying to change the subject...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

First you have to accept the absurd: that man can control the weather.

Of course, this is how idiots and charlatans talk. The issue is not whether or not we can control the weather, but whether or not we can affect it.

 

[Oddball]

There's a LOT of published science debunking the alarmists...

There is zero published science debunking the scientific consensus. That's why you are trying to change the subject...

Speaking of denial!...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Watching Meet the Press. They have dedicated the whole hour to climate change. They have no deniers on the panel and as Chuck Todd correctly stated the science is long since settled. Now it is time to discuss solutions.

A recent poll shows even a majority of Republicans do not dispute anthropogenic climate change.
Opinion | More Republicans Than You Think Support Action on Climate Change

I applaud Meet the Press. Time to push deniers and their pseudo science to the curb or back into closet. Choose your metaphor. They are just standing in the way and are no more than obstructionists.

We need to discuss only solutions and adaptations.

China is the leading culprit, what are you doing about the China Problem?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Now it is time to discuss solutions.

Given that the US federal government is the worst polluter on the planet the solution is simple.

Less government.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So you applaud bias and non diversity. Got it.

Climate "science" is based upon Fascism and silencing any opposition

 

[Correll]

Your sophist games are noted and dismissed.


What is your real agenda? What is this really about?

Sophist games?

I'm shooing you off. Nothing more.

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

Lol.

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

Lol again.

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So you applaud bias and non diversity. Got it.

One side debating facts, and another farting or making otherwise vulgar, ignorant noises, is not diversity, and excluding the farters isn't "bias". It's just common sense, and a necessary precondition for a real debate.

What are you doing about China?

 

[Correll]

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

Lol.

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

You need to stop with this conspiracy nonsense. You need to acknowledge that some people just care about the state of the environment.

He admitted that that was not the case, at least with him.

See? He's hilarious!

If you were really done, you would just stop replying.


But you can't let my point stand, yet you can't refute it. Hence silly word games.



NOTHING, proposed by you guys, would "save" the planet from the "problem" you claim to be worried about.


It would give the government massive power and funds to oppress US and lower our quality of life.


So, your real goal must be something else.

 

[boedicca]

First you have to accept the absurd: that man can control the weather.

Of course, this is how idiots and charlatans talk. The issue is not whether or not we can control the weather, but whether or not we can affect it.

That's the same con that Witch Doctors have used to manipulate people throughout history. Thunder God Angry! He must be APPEASED! Give me all of your money!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So you applaud bias and non diversity. Got it.

I applaud the need to change the debate to action and adaption. The science is settled. There are people still debating whether the earth is round. Time to move on or we will get nowhere.

Action and adaptation? Show me where the multi billions, some estimate over a trillion, has resulted in any meaningful action or adaption.

Well that is the purpose of the debate. To get to a solution that will work.

Q. How much must we lower CO2 in order to end climate change?

A. $78 Trillion