MTP: Climate Change Discussion - no Deniers

[cnm]

Growth rates = fake.

Your assertion has been falsified, not once but twice, from Bloomberg of all places; all you can do is deny, ignore, deny. What are you doing here? Your table is over there ------>

 

[skookerasbil]

Yep

 

[2aguy]

I am not a climate change denier, climate changes all the time, all on it's own.

One who denies human activity emitted greenhouse gases are the primary driver of climate change is a denier. Other table for you.

Nope.... I am the one who believes in actual science....you guys deny the real science and desperately want to use fake science to push a political agenda.

 

[2aguy]

The alarmists of the world cant post up a single link that displays where the science is mattering in the real world!!

Another effect of AGW Snookers will ignore or deny. That's how he rolls. That's how all deniers roll. What are they doing here?

Yeah....trusting a communist government to tell the truth about a failing technology....

Why China is having so many problems ramping up wind power

These issues are capable of putting a substantial dent in China’s wind electricity output, it turns out. The researchers noted that in 2012, China’s wind-generated electricity was 39.3 terawatt-hours less than that of the United States.

 

[cnm]

I am the one who believes in actual science

The actual scientific position is that human activity emitted greenhouse gases are the primary driver of climate change. You deny that. You are a denier, what are you doing here? Other table is that way --------->

 

[cnm]

Yeah....trusting a communist government to tell the truth about a failing technology....

I can see how you'd distrust a capitalist institution like Bloomberg to tell you the truth. Deniers will deny everything. You're in the wrong thread.

 

[skookerasbil]

The alarmists of the world cant post up a single link that displays where the science is mattering in the real world!!

Another effect of AGW Snookers will ignore or deny. That's how he rolls. That's how all deniers roll. What are they doing here?

Yeah....trusting a communist government to tell the truth about a failing technology....

Why China is having so many problems ramping up wind power

These issues are capable of putting a substantial dent in China’s wind electricity output, it turns out. The researchers noted that in 2012, China’s wind-generated electricity was 39.3 terawatt-hours less than that of the United States.

I laugh when the k00ks tout Chinese renewables " growth". Lol....they are still opening 1-2 coal plants/ month and will increase coal production by......ready for this....50% by 2050!!

But the k00ks keep telling us " coal is on the way out"

The people aren't st00pid....which is why in every election, the Tom Steyer backed climate candidates get their clocks cleaned!

 

[cnm]

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

If sceptics were winning temperatures would not be increasing. The other table is that way -------->

 

[cnm]

I laugh when the k00ks tout Chinese renewables " growth"

Yeah, Bloomberg. Why are you still here? Your assertion has been falsified.

 

[2aguy]

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

If sceptics were winning temperatures would not be increasing. The other table is that way -------->

Temps aren't increasing......you have to explain the 18 year pause in temperature increase....as we have more, not less, industrial activity around the world.

 

[2aguy]

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

If sceptics were winning temperatures would not be increasing. The other table is that way -------->

Yeah...no temp increases...but thanks for playing.....

More Data Fiddling—Is Another Warming “Pause” About to Start?

Yesterday Jim Hansen, now with Columbia University, and several of his colleagues released their summary of 2017 global temperatures. Their history, published by the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has constantly been evolving in ways that make the early years colder and the later years hot. I recently posted on how this can happen, and the differences between these modified datasets and those determined objectively (i.e. without human meddling).

For a couple years I have been pointing out (along with Judith Curry and others) that the latest fad—which puts a lot of warming in recent data—is to extend high-latitude land weather station data far out over the Arctic Ocean. Hansen’s crew takes stations north of 64⁰ latitude and extends them an astounding 1200 kilometers into the ocean.

This, plainly speaking, is a violation of one of the most fundamental principles of thermodynamics, which is that when matter is changing its state (from, say, solid to liquid), a stirred fluid will remain at “freezing” until it is all liquid, whereupon warming will commence.

This also applies in the Arctic, where the fluid is often stirred by strong winds. So if, say, Resolute, one of the northernmost land stations, is 50⁰F, and the Arctic is mixed water-ice (it always is), that 50 degrees will be extended out 1200 kilometers where the air-sea boundary temperature has to be around 30⁰F, the freezing point of seawater up there.

Hansen et al. did pay some attention to this, noting this extension, which they normally apply to their data, was responsible for making 2017 the second-warmest year in their record. If they “only” extended 250km (still dicey), it would drop their “global” temperatures by a tenth of a degree, which would send the year down a rank. The result of all of this is that the big “spike” at the end of their record is in no small part due to the 1200km extension that turns thermodynamics on its head.

There’s another interesting pronouncement in the NASA announcement; many people have noted that the sun is a bit cool in recent years, and that it continues to trend slightly downward. The changes in its radiance are probably good for a tenth of a degree (C) of surface temperature or so. Hansen et al. use this to provide covering fire should warming stall out yet again:

 

[Ame®icano]

 

[2aguy]

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

If sceptics were winning temperatures would not be increasing. The other table is that way -------->

And more...

The global climate continues to warm rapidly

IPCC admits global warming has paused

"[The IPCC] recognise the global warming ‘pause’...is real – and concede that their computer models did not predict it. But they cannot explain why world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase since 1997." (David Rose)

 

[cnm]

Your deniers' table ------------------>

 

[cnm]

Temps aren't increasing

Yeah, right. Deniers' table -------------->

Global Temperature

 

[Wyatt earp]

Translation ~ the alarmist can't out debate us

Any of you morons would get laughed out of any educated company. Try it. Step outside your little anonymous internet self help group and publish some science. Head to a university forum of scientists and ask the moronic questions you ask here, and say the moronic things you say here. Then watch the video of you getting embarrassed go viral.

Maybe then you idiots will understand that declarations of victory are not the same as actual victories.

I would rip them apart....



Like Judith curry does.

But I would prove their data is false from the 1880 global average temperature

 

[Wyatt earp]

Temps aren't increasing

Yeah, right. Deniers' table -------------->

Global Temperature

Fucking lie

 

[Pilot1]

We are measuring the size of a grain of sand when climate spans entire deserts.

 

[cnm]

Fucking lie

I love the way you pretend you're not a denier while flat out denying. Why are you still here? Your table is that way------------------->

 

[Wyatt earp]

Fucking lie

I love the way you pretend you're not a denier while flat out denying. Why are you still here? Your table is that way------------------->

How the fuck am I denying it by saying they don't have the global data?


That's called real science


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