Mueller Indicts 13 Russian Nationals For Election Meddling

Example it's a crime for a foreigner to kill a US citizen overseas.

It's a crime in the country where it occurs, so that's a really fucking stupid example.

Nope, is some islamic countries it's not a crime to kill an infidel. It's only an american crime.

So when does our government arrest these people?

It is unlikely that Russia will turn these people over to the US for prosecution but you are mistaken about the process.

The US gives notice to Russia that they want to arrest Russian citizens and extradite them to the US for trial. If Russia agrees to cooperate (ha!), they take those charged into custody and there’s a court hearing where the accused can make a case that they should not be sent back to the US for trial.

In this case, since Russia is unlikely to cooperate, they’ll likely file arrest warrants with Interpol and wait for these people to leave Russia and, hopefully, go to a more cooperative jurisdiction.
In other words, the US can't arrest anyone overseas for breaking US law.

Thanks for playing.
 
NRA Connections
Torshin helped establish a Russian gun group called Right to Bear Arms, whose president calls Torshin "a great gun lover." Torshin is also a life member of the NRA – and forged ties to its leadership after attending the NRA's national convention in 2013. McClatchy reports that, in 2015, Toshin hosted "a high-level NRA delegation" during a week-long Moscow trip "that included meetings with influential Russian government and business figures." An attendee describes a debauched week: "They were killing us with vodka and the best Russian food," he told McClatchy. "The trip exceeded my expectations by logarithmic levels."

Trump Connections
At the May 2016 NRA convention in Louisville, Kentucky, where Donald Trump accepted the group's endorsement, Torshin shared a table at dinner with the candidate's son Donald Jr. According to Bloomberg, Torshin claimed to also have met now-president Trump at the convention, and that: "He keeps photos of the event on his computer tablet."

The 2016 NRA convention came off just as Russians were actively seeking contact with the Trump campaign – just weeks earlier, a Russian conduit told Trump staffer George Papadopoulos that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, including thousands of her emails. – and hoping to set up a meeting with Trump and Putin.

According to the New York Times, Torshin tried to set up a dinner meeting in Louisville at the time of the NRA convention with then-candidate Trump – with the aim of connecting Trump with Putin. The request was conveyed through a Trump ally in the Christian conservative world, who reportedly sent the campaign an email with the subject line: "Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite." (Trump did not attend that dinner.)

Separately, an NRA member, Paul Erickson – who had been part of the 2015 NRA delegation to Moscow – wrote an email titled, "Kremlin Connection," to Trump campaign adviser Rick Dearborn, according to the New York Times. Erickson reportedly told the campaign that Russia was "quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S." and would be seeking "first contact" at the NRA convention.

Weeks later, in early June 2016, the trio of Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner took a meeting with a Putin-connected lawyer who had offered incriminating material on Hillary Clinton. Former Trump White House adviser Steve Bannon has dubbed that meeting "treasonous."

A Potential Game Changer
The allegation that Russia funneled money into the NRA – to directly support Trump's presidential bid – is staggering. Until now, we've understood the Russian support of Trump to have been oblique, delivered by a cadre of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and by the release of hacked DNC and Clinton campaign emails through Wikileaks.

The notion that the Kremlin was supporting Trump's presidential bid financially – and through an organization that holds itself up as a paragon of American patriotism – is almost unreal.

The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here’s What You Need to Know
"The allegation that Russia funneled money into the NRA – to directly support Trump's presidential bid – is staggering."

Yes, it is "staggering" - staggeringly idiotic.

Your post is just another typical paranoid snowflake conspiricy theory.
 
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All these months of investigation and they indict Russian citizens for posting on social network. Gee, like millions of Americans didn't attempt to sway their friends by posting a bunch of political crap. Then there was MSNBC, CNN and other leftists outright lying about Trump and practically campaigning for Hillary. Fake news, anyone? Perfectly acceptable when it comes out of left field.

What about when Obama went to Israel and told the citizens not to vote for Netanyahu or when he went to the UK to talk people into voting against Brexit? Is that not interfering in elections? Or is it viewed differently when the person is pushing the radical views of the left?
How is that even illegal? What is the crime? Would it be illegal for an American to post on facebook?


Beats the hell out of me. It sounds like a desperate attempt to save face after wasting all that time and money going after Trump. Somebody had to be put in the hot seat and this is the best they could do. Meanwhile, countries have interfered in elections for ages. Obama interfered in the Israel election when he went there to try and talk people out of voting for Netanyahu. That was direct interference but no consequences or even criticism from the lib media.

What about Obama telling illegals to vote in the last election? Areas with extremely high populations of illegals is where Hillary got most of her votes. Isn't telling people to cheat interfering with an election?

What about the precincts that were counting Hillary's votes up to six times each? Remember that being discovered during the recount? How the hell is that not interfering with an election?

What about the fake news that still continues? CNN, MSNBC, late night talk shows and other liberal talking heads lied their asses off. They tried to help cover for Hillary weird medical condition and constantly took a negative tone on anything about Trump. How is that not interfering with an election?

Yet, they claim that a dozen Russians managed to convince Americans to vote Trump. Biggest load of bullshit ever.
With Obama interfering with israel, that gets a mostly false rating. Besides, Netanyahu is corrupt as can get.

Obama only encouraged latinos to vote, not illegals. But probably in the republican mind, all latinos are illegal.

Russian interference takes on different forms, one big one is Russian trolls. with big budget. Denying russian influence is about as un-patriotic as you can get.
Fact check sites are fake news, so their "mostly false rating" is bullshit.
 
All these months of investigation and they indict Russian citizens for posting on social network. Gee, like millions of Americans didn't attempt to sway their friends by posting a bunch of political crap.

It's like millions of teenage boys and girls touch each others private parts, and much more. But let Dr Nassar do the same thing, and we send him to jail for 200 years.

We don't let foreigners do what americans can, it's illegal.
^^^ very weird post^^^ YIKES^^^ is this where the left is coming from^^^really????^^^


Scary, isn't it? Leftists support perverts, as long as they are liberals. Bill Clinton spent a LOT of time on the Lolita Express and the sex island with underage sex slaves but the left acts like it's no one else's business.

If leftists want a conservative knocked out of a race or just taken down, they summon Gloria Allred or her daughter, Lisa Bloom, and sic them on the Repubs. Look what happened to Herman Cain. He proved the allegations were false, but way too late. Now, Bloom is going after conservative Scott Baio because that dingbat Eggert is jumping on the 'Me, too' bandwagon. She admitted she was 18 when she initiated sex but is now saying he was too old for her at the time. The left pulls shit like this despite blaming Monica Lewinsky for the affair with little Billy Clinton. Such double standards.

Bloom and Allred are jokes. Their whole careers are all about going after anyone on the right. Never will you see them representing someone accusing a liberal of sexual misconduct.

Just like the way they make a big deal out of a comment from Trump or accuse him of having an affair like it's a crime and then turn around and ignore the numerous allegations against Clinton and other Dems. Hell, Teddy Kennedy killed a woman and then went back to a party without reporting the car wreck and all was forgiven.

This whole Russian collusion thing was a farce from the start. The real collusion was with the left because they proved that they will lie, cheat, and sink as low as possible to get their way.

Then we had the spying on Trump during the campaign, which is the real story in all this.

The collusion accusations kicked in when Hillary was losing her shit after losing the election. The media did their best to report as if it was a real investigation and they completely left out the fact that the dossier was paid for by Hillary and the DNC and that the info in the dossier was fed to Steele by Hillary and the DNC. When they used that report to get a warrant to spy on Trump, they knew the info was total fabricated bullshit. That is a crime.

All this investigation proved is that the DNC is as corrupt as they come. Hillary needs to go down with some others.

The Russians are being served up to make the investigation look legit. They didn't do anything out of the ordinary. The Dems are the ones who are corrupt.


indeed everyone once and a while a post will give a peek behind the curtain as to what the poster is really made of

this post scarily revealed what kind of a sicko we see here

it would be interesting to dig a little deeper into this weirdos lifestyle
 
After one year of wasting money

That's all they got?

13 russians?

UN- F- BELIEVABLE!


And Russians who won't be extradited!


That's right!

A total waste of tax payers money.:mad-61:

We know why you hate it. It blows the meme that Russia did not interfere in our elections. That is your real objection.



The object of the scheme was to indict President Trump.

Mueller just threw in the towel.

I recognize your attempt to hide your chagrin.
 
After one year of wasting money

That's all they got?

13 russians?

UN- F- BELIEVABLE!


And Russians who won't be extradited!


That's right!

A total waste of tax payers money.:mad-61:

We know why you hate it. It blows the meme that Russia did not interfere in our elections. That is your real objection.


I'm not going to fight with a liltte bee like you.......:eusa_naughty:.......I'm in a good mood today!;)

Good. You will lose.



Are you actually trying to hide the fact that....

Trump won....

...the American people won....

...the Right won.....again?
 
And Russians who won't be extradited!


That's right!

A total waste of tax payers money.:mad-61:

We know why you hate it. It blows the meme that Russia did not interfere in our elections. That is your real objection.


I'm not going to fight with a liltte bee like you.......:eusa_naughty:.......I'm in a good mood today!;)

Good. You will lose.



Are you actually trying to hide the fact that....

Trump won....

...the American people won....

...the Right won.....again?
Right now they are celebrating that Mueller just threw them a bone and they have no idea how they are all played like a 3 dollar banjo.

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Trump Gimps are in an Uproar the Indictments of the Russians seems to have unnerved them a bit
not at all. indict away.

but to think it's anything but political is bullshit. what are the "guilty" russians going to do - come back and give up? not likely so this isn't a legal move now is it? we also don't know the extent of the indictments and funny (not really) how you leave off no americans were involved.

gonna crack me a new poop shoot if the right can go "there was no intent" and this is all over.

talk about political karma.
You all said the entire thing was a hoax triggered by Steele dossier. That bogus claim has been demolished. that is why you Trump gimps are "Moon Howling" .......its a sweet sound yes



Actually, it's proven by Mueller tossing in the towel.


Sure looks like a back-door attempt by Mueller to run and hide.

The Nunes Memo made it untenable to continue the 'War on Trump,' and he needed to find a way out of the corner they had painted themselves into, before a second special prosecutor was put in place to send the conspirators to jail.



Mueller's indictments in a totally different direction than you Leftists expected is a version of 'rats leaving a sinking ship.'


Mueller indicted individuals he cannot extradite….and ties up loose ends by leaving all American out of it

”Rosenstein said his team has not had communication with Russia about the indictments and would go through normal channels for the extradition of those indicted. However, the U.S. government has no extradition treaty with Russia. In the past, Russia has not cooperated with these requests.

....Rosenstein said that "there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity.

He added that "there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election."
Mueller Indicts 13 Russians Accused of Election Meddling




Want me to prove it?


Your refusal to answer this question will be proof:


Should an individual under investigation expect, and be entitled to, impartiality by the investigating agencies?

im·par·ti·al·i·ty
imˌpärSHēˈalədē/
noun



1. equal treatment of all rivals or disputants; fairness.



Take your time.
 
Oh, this is going to be interesting.

Fake news is reporting Rosenstein is going to announce these charges today.

I can't wait to see what these charges are. So now buying adds disparaging Hillaryous is now a crime. Free speech unless you're Russian.

Rosenstein stated no person contacted by Russians knew they were being contacted by Russians who were trying to influence the election.

Go pound sand, libtardos, if they had any thing on Trump they'd have announced it.



Sure looks like a back-door attempt by Mueller to run and hide.


The Nunes Memo made it untenable to continue the 'War on Trump,' and he needed to find a way out of the corner they had painted themselves into, before a second special prosecutor was put in place to send the conspirators to jail.


That's why Rosenstein made a point of stating "no one wittingly colluded with Russians"

There was no need to make that statement unless he was trying to create an avenue which would give them cover.



And this:

”Rosenstein said his team has not had communication with Russia about the indictments and would go through normal channels for the extradition of those indicted. However, the U.S. government has no extradition treaty with Russia. In the past, Russia has not cooperated with these requests.”
Mueller Indicts 13 Russians Accused of Election Meddling



Leaving all those dunces who wished, hoped, yearned for an attack on Trump, with egg on their ugly kissers.
/——/ OOOPSIE- This just in:
Indictment reveals Russians also organized anti-Trump rallies after election

By Alex Pappas
Published February 16, 2018
The Russians indicted for meddling in the 2016 presidential contest were also behind anti-Trump rallies after the election, prosecutors said Friday, revealing another aspect of Russia’s alleged interference as it worked to sow discord in the United States.




This move is simply Mueller justifying his paycheck.
 
Oh, this is going to be interesting.

Fake news is reporting Rosenstein is going to announce these charges today.

I can't wait to see what these charges are. So now buying adds disparaging Hillaryous is now a crime. Free speech unless you're Russian.

Rosenstein stated no person contacted by Russians knew they were being contacted by Russians who were trying to influence the election.

Go pound sand, libtardos, if they had any thing on Trump they'd have announced it.



Sure looks like a back-door attempt by Mueller to run and hide.


The Nunes Memo made it untenable to continue the 'War on Trump,' and he needed to find a way out of the corner they had painted themselves into, before a second special prosecutor was put in place to send the conspirators to jail.


That's why Rosenstein made a point of stating "no one wittingly colluded with Russians"

There was no need to make that statement unless he was trying to create an avenue which would give them cover.



And this:

”Rosenstein said his team has not had communication with Russia about the indictments and would go through normal channels for the extradition of those indicted. However, the U.S. government has no extradition treaty with Russia. In the past, Russia has not cooperated with these requests.”
Mueller Indicts 13 Russians Accused of Election Meddling



Leaving all those dunces who wished, hoped, yearned for an attack on Trump, with egg on their ugly kissers.
/——/ OOOPSIE- This just in:
Indictment reveals Russians also organized anti-Trump rallies after election

By Alex Pappas
Published February 16, 2018
The Russians indicted for meddling in the 2016 presidential contest were also behind anti-Trump rallies after the election, prosecutors said Friday, revealing another aspect of Russia’s alleged interference as it worked to sow discord in the United States.




This move is simply Mueller justifying his paycheck.
He's earning every penny. Let's see what the President does now, besides say "Phew! I'm innocent!" Enacting those sanctions voted overwhelmingly by Congress would be a start, wouldn't they?
 
Melania just said she’s not going to Maralago with her adulterous husband after she heard about his new Playboy playmate.

Lmao



i bet she has quite a story to tell... eventually... a tell-all hopefully!

i bet she's both pissed off and scared to death at the same time.

their son was 4 months old when donny was out screwing around on the mother of his child with a porn star AND a playboy during the same time period.

GROSS!!! poor milania... no doubt he has threatened her to STFU.

she gave in and put on a nurses outfit for the cameras this week, though.

1400x788

Trump, first lady meet school attack victims during visit to Florida hospital



no worries, teflon don (our pathological liar-in-chief) said just this week that he is TOTALLY against domestic violence of ALL kinds and EVERYBODY knows that! :laugh:


Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex
The 1990 divorce case between the two Trumps was granted on the grounds of Donald’s “cruel and inhuman treatment” of Ivana. Her divorce involved a gag order that keeps her from talking about her marriage to Donald Trump without his permission. Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.The book described a harrowing scene. What followed was a “violent assault,” “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.' ” Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.”


...donny's lawyer added there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”

However, that is not true. In New York, there used to be a so-called marital rape exemption to the law. It was struck down in 1984.

Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.
 
Trump Gimps are in an Uproar the Indictments of the Russians seems to have unnerved them a bit
not at all. indict away.

but to think it's anything but political is bullshit. what are the "guilty" russians going to do - come back and give up? not likely so this isn't a legal move now is it? we also don't know the extent of the indictments and funny (not really) how you leave off no americans were involved.

gonna crack me a new poop shoot if the right can go "there was no intent" and this is all over.

talk about political karma.
You all said the entire thing was a hoax triggered by Steele dossier. That bogus claim has been demolished. that is why you Trump gimps are "Moon Howling" .......its a sweet sound yes



Actually, it's proven by Mueller tossing in the towel.


Sure looks like a back-door attempt by Mueller to run and hide.

The Nunes Memo made it untenable to continue the 'War on Trump,' and he needed to find a way out of the corner they had painted themselves into, before a second special prosecutor was put in place to send the conspirators to jail.



Mueller's indictments in a totally different direction than you Leftists expected is a version of 'rats leaving a sinking ship.'


Mueller indicted individuals he cannot extradite….and ties up loose ends by leaving all American out of it

”Rosenstein said his team has not had communication with Russia about the indictments and would go through normal channels for the extradition of those indicted. However, the U.S. government has no extradition treaty with Russia. In the past, Russia has not cooperated with these requests.

....Rosenstein said that "there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity.

He added that "there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election."
Mueller Indicts 13 Russians Accused of Election Meddling




Want me to prove it?


Your refusal to answer this question will be proof:


Should an individual under investigation expect, and be entitled to, impartiality by the investigating agencies?

im·par·ti·al·i·ty
imˌpärSHēˈalədē/
noun



1. equal treatment of all rivals or disputants; fairness.



Take your time.
LOL Its Mueller who is taking his time LOL Fuck Trump LOCK HIM UP
 
So, this all comes down to a bunch of russians trolls on internet sites like this one, pushing what? Russian propaganda? Pro-Trump arguments?

The identity theft is a real crime, but hardly worth all they hype.


Is this the end of Muller's investigation or is he supposedly still digging?
 
After one year of wasting money

That's all they got?

13 russians?

UN- F- BELIEVABLE!


And Russians who won't be extradited!


That's right!

A total waste of tax payers money.:mad-61:

We know why you hate it. It blows the meme that Russia did not interfere in our elections. That is your real objection.



The object of the scheme was to indict President Trump.

Mueller just threw in the towel.

I recognize your attempt to hide your chagrin.
By what metric is this throwing in the towel? More indictments is not throwing in the towel. The object of an investigation is to get at the truth by the way! I am not a Trump fan in any way shape or form but I personally would prefer that our nation did not recieve the dubious distinction of having an elected president impeached or sent to prison. How ever we must defend our elections from fraud, if people are indeed guilty of tampering or culluding they must answer for those crimes. Predicting the out come of these investigations is folley at this point we do not have all the information the investigators have. Time will tell the out come, not pure speculation.
 
Melania just said she’s not going to Maralago with her adulterous husband after she heard about his new Playboy playmate.

Lmao



i bet she has quite a story to tell... eventually... a tell-all hopefully!

i bet she's both pissed off and scared to death at the same time.

their son was 4 months old when donny was out screwing around on the mother of his child with a porn star AND a playboy during the same time period.

GROSS!!! poor milania... no doubt he has threatened her to STFU.

she gave in and put on a nurses outfit for the cameras this week, though.

1400x788

Trump, first lady meet school attack victims during visit to Florida hospital



no worries, teflon don (our pathological liar-in-chief) said just this week that he is TOTALLY against domestic violence of ALL kinds and EVERYBODY knows that! :laugh:


Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex
The 1990 divorce case between the two Trumps was granted on the grounds of Donald’s “cruel and inhuman treatment” of Ivana. Her divorce involved a gag order that keeps her from talking about her marriage to Donald Trump without his permission. Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.The book described a harrowing scene. What followed was a “violent assault,” “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.' ” Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.”


...donny's lawyer added there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”

However, that is not true. In New York, there used to be a so-called marital rape exemption to the law. It was struck down in 1984.

Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.


Divorce testimony has no credibility.
 
So, this all comes down to a bunch of russians trolls on internet sites like this one, pushing what? Russian propaganda? Pro-Trump arguments?

The identity theft is a real crime, but hardly worth all they hype.


Is this the end of Muller's investigation or is he supposedly still digging?
‘Follow the money’: Ex-US Attorney reveals how Mueller’s Russia indictments now lead to Trump’s tax returns:1peleas:



Wow. There is NOTHING in that link to justify looking at Trump's tax returns.


Or to support in any fashion your hope that this is somehow tied to Trump.
 
So, this all comes down to a bunch of russians trolls on internet sites like this one, pushing what? Russian propaganda? Pro-Trump arguments?

The identity theft is a real crime, but hardly worth all they hype.


Is this the end of Muller's investigation or is he supposedly still digging?
‘Follow the money’: Ex-US Attorney reveals how Mueller’s Russia indictments now lead to Trump’s tax returns:1peleas:



Wow. There is NOTHING in that link to justify looking at Trump's tax returns.


Or to support in any fashion your hope that this is somehow tied to Trump.
your Orange Nasty is going down
 
...after Trump won, the defendants allegedly helped organize both a pro-Trump and an anti-Trump rally on the same day in New York City, suggesting that one of their aims in promoting Trump’s candidacy may have simply been to cause chaos in the US.

The specific charges against the Russians include one broad “conspiracy to defraud the United States” count, but the rest are far narrower — one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and six counts of identity theft.

This doesn’t hugely change what we know in terms of Russian interference

In a sense, these charges are plucking the low-hanging fruit of Russian interference.


Furthermore, other allegations of Russian interference — involving the hacks and leaks of leading Democrats’ emails, and hacking into election-related computer systems in many states — play no role in these charges.


We don’t yet really know what this means for Mueller’s larger investigation

...the bigger picture is that these indictments really don’t change much about what we know, or tell us much about where Mueller might be going.

Furthermore, with the Russians charged not being in the United States to face arrest, it’s unclear what this case will amount to. Indeed, one of its effects may be to serve as a public and political statement that Mueller’s team isn’t solely focused on the Trump team’s potential wrongdoing — that they’re attempting to fulfill their original charge of investigating Russian interference. That may make it harder for the Trump team to justify firing Mueller.

Still, looking at the Mueller investigation as a whole, it’s grown to be quite complex. One Trump adviser, George Papadopoulos, pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with Russians during the election. Another, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with Russians after the election. Two other ex-Trump aides, Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, were indicted for alleged money laundering unrelated to the campaign. And Mueller’s team has been looking into potential obstruction of justice from the Trump administration too.


The new indictments, then, are a piece in this larger puzzle — a puzzle that still isn’t yet solved.


What Mueller’s new Russia indictments mean — and don’t mean
 
So, this all comes down to a bunch of russians trolls on internet sites like this one, pushing what? Russian propaganda? Pro-Trump arguments?

The identity theft is a real crime, but hardly worth all they hype.


Is this the end of Muller's investigation or is he supposedly still digging?
‘Follow the money’: Ex-US Attorney reveals how Mueller’s Russia indictments now lead to Trump’s tax returns:1peleas:



Wow. There is NOTHING in that link to justify looking at Trump's tax returns.


Or to support in any fashion your hope that this is somehow tied to Trump.
your Orange Nasty is going down



13 Russian internet trolls is not important.


This is the biggest joke I have heard in a long time.
 

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