Meathead
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I guess technically they're people. Low-life, but people.Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
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I guess technically they're people. Low-life, but people.Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
Of course you should be arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes. Although your roll in it may be small you are a part of a larger criminal operation that spans states and may involve incidents of hijacking to get those untaxed cigarettes to you and that robs the city and state of needed revenue.It is clear that you understand nothing. There is no evidence racism motivated any of these police actions, so you are just making arguments in support of allowing criminals to go free.So what? There is no rule about police running plates whenever they want to.You are an asshole.Yes he did something wrong, no he fif not know who was in the car and that is why he ran the plates.We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
What did the officer know that the driver did wrong?
His wrong doing was on the screen when his plate ran through the computer system.
The officer had no clue as to who was driving.
I understand and the authoritarians just eat it up.
Nobody should even be a criminal for selling someone a loose cigarette for .50 cents at that. That's why I say that those who support that are authoritarians. No crimes is so minor that the police shouldn't take you down for it.
On top of that no one likes a tax collector and that is what the city turned the policemen into. A glorified tax collector. That needs to stop.
Obviously that is not true or he wouldn't have refused to have the police search him. Given the fact that he had been arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes several times in the past at that location, the police had probably cause to search him, and the court would have canceled his bail and sent him back to prison for refusing that search.The lawsuit was about the chokehold, not about the original crime. Try to be honest.We both know he was selling untaxed cigarettes at the time of his arrest and that's why he refused to allow the police to search him. I think you are carrying on like this because you are trying to make a case for racism, but there is no evidence any of the police actions were motivated by racism in any of these cases so all you doing is making a case for not arresting criminals.He was selling them at the time the police arrested him and that's why he resisted arrest so violently.He was selling untaxed cigarettes, which is a crime, and he and he actively resisted arrest by swatting away an officer's arm who was trying to cuff him, which is another crime. He had a long criminal record and was currently out on bail from another arrest and this arresting would have canceled his bail and sent him to jail to wait trial, which is likely why he so strenuously resisted the police officers. He weighed 350 lbs and had a plethora of diseases that were life threatening and it is not at all clear the coke hold killed him. What is clear is that any attempt to arrest this six foot three, 350 lb guy who was resisting arrest would be dangerous to both the police and to him. So you must be saying that the proper thing for the police to do would have been to just walk away and allow him to go on breaking the law.what the fk does that mean?We are speaking by and large where there are no victims. Millions of people are arrested every year and no one is protesting the vast majority of those arrests.
Just what I said. Eric Garner was doing no one any harm by standing on the sidewalk.
He had sold untaxed cigarettes in the past. You do not get to search someone over something someone did in the past and NO ONE should ever be arrested for that.
No he wasn't. You know this by now also but you aren't going to let that stop you.
I'm "carrying on" because they violated his civil rights and the city paid the family millions over that. He was not selling cigarettes. If he was you can bet the police would have made a big deal about finding them on him. They didn't.
There was no original crime.
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
Plates get run as a normal course standard to check for stolen vehicles, dummy.
Was there a report of such a car being stolen? If not they have no reason to run the plates
Running plates does not violate anyone's Constitutional rights. An officer can run plates, find out the car is clean and go back to patrolling all without the driver even knowing. You're aware of this, yes?
If you have a problem with this then you must have a problem with having your license and car plates on record at the DMV.
and again, it does NOT prove the person in the car is wanted.
If the car turns out to be stolen, the driver IS wanted now. For driving a stolen car. Duh.
The car wasn't stolen.
No shit.
Your problem seems to be that officers run plates as standard procedure, not just that they ran this guy's plates. Am I right? That being the case, if they run someone's plates and it turns out the car is stolen, do you think they're going to go look at Wal-Mart for the thief? Of course not, they're going to assume the driver is the thief and pull him over.
What is it about this you don't understand?I have an issue with running plates since they have nothing else to do, why did he pull him over?
This is only because you are an indoctrinated social justice maggot.
As a result, it resembles nothing even close to reality!
No, I've heard the police departments want drones who simply follow orders and don't think for themselves.Here's a start. I think this is part of the problem. Not the biggest problem, but part of it. It's a little out-dated, but you get the idea.
Why don't police departments look like the communities that they serve? I thnk it gives a perception of "us vs them" instead of the community looking after itself. If you're trying to rebuild damaged trust relations, I think this is a good place to start.
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It's because a fair amount of blacks and Hispanics already have a criminal record and don't qualify, dummy.
LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
It is clear that you understand nothing. There is no evidence racism motivated any of these police actions, so you are just making arguments in support of allowing criminals to go free.So what? There is no rule about police running plates whenever they want to.You are an asshole.Yes he did something wrong, no he fif not know who was in the car and that is why he ran the plates.We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
What did the officer know that the driver did wrong?
His wrong doing was on the screen when his plate ran through the computer system.
The officer had no clue as to who was driving.
I understand and the authoritarians just eat it up.
Nobody should even be a criminal for selling someone a loose cigarette for .50 cents at that. That's why I say that those who support that are authoritarians. No crimes is so minor that the police shouldn't take you down for it.
On top of that no one likes a tax collector and that is what the city turned the policemen into. A glorified tax collector. That needs to stop.
Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
Not necessarily evil. They just looooooove socialism, while keeping it w\away..From YOUWe were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
We live in a YouTube nationthe media fans any flames that are there......they can turn a minor incident into a major incident.....BOOOOOOM!!! that is the MAIN problem..the MSM DOES need to be taken out !! I've said this many times......they lie and create mythsBad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
It's the media that created this narrative and hysteria
In the good ole days, Cops had a ready excuse...
He resisted arrest
He fell
I felt threatened
Now, everything shows up on videos. there is no hiding. Good police work comes out as good police work. Bad cops come off as bad cops.
Don’t blame the media
Where do you think your welfare check comes from?Of course you should be arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes. Although your roll in it may be small you are a part of a larger criminal operation that spans states and may involve incidents of hijacking to get those untaxed cigarettes to you and that robs the city and state of needed revenue.It is clear that you understand nothing. There is no evidence racism motivated any of these police actions, so you are just making arguments in support of allowing criminals to go free.So what? There is no rule about police running plates whenever they want to.You are an asshole.Yes he did something wrong, no he fif not know who was in the car and that is why he ran the plates.We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
What did the officer know that the driver did wrong?
His wrong doing was on the screen when his plate ran through the computer system.
The officer had no clue as to who was driving.
I understand and the authoritarians just eat it up.
Nobody should even be a criminal for selling someone a loose cigarette for .50 cents at that. That's why I say that those who support that are authoritarians. No crimes is so minor that the police shouldn't take you down for it.
On top of that no one likes a tax collector and that is what the city turned the policemen into. A glorified tax collector. That needs to stop.
LOL, there you go, argue for taxation. LOL
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Why would he run the plates? Did the guy do something wrong? How did he know who was in the car?
Plates get run as a normal course standard to check for stolen vehicles, dummy.
Was there a report of such a car being stolen? If not they have no reason to run the plates
Running plates does not violate anyone's Constitutional rights. An officer can run plates, find out the car is clean and go back to patrolling all without the driver even knowing. You're aware of this, yes?
If you have a problem with this then you must have a problem with having your license and car plates on record at the DMV.
and again, it does NOT prove the person in the car is wanted.
If the car turns out to be stolen, the driver IS wanted now. For driving a stolen car. Duh.
The car wasn't stolen.
No shit.
Your problem seems to be that officers run plates as standard procedure, not just that they ran this guy's plates. Am I right? That being the case, if they run someone's plates and it turns out the car is stolen, do you think they're going to go look at Wal-Mart for the thief? Of course not, they're going to assume the driver is the thief and pull him over.
What is it about this you don't understand?
If they get a report of a stolen red 2016 Accord then they would have a reason to check a red 2016 Accord. Otherwise, no, leave people alone.
He was out on bail for the same crime at the same location, and that gave the police probable cause to search him.Obviously that is not true or he wouldn't have refused to have the police search him. Given the fact that he had been arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes several times in the past at that location, the police had probably cause to search him, and the court would have canceled his bail and sent him back to prison for refusing that search.The lawsuit was about the chokehold, not about the original crime. Try to be honest.We both know he was selling untaxed cigarettes at the time of his arrest and that's why he refused to allow the police to search him. I think you are carrying on like this because you are trying to make a case for racism, but there is no evidence any of the police actions were motivated by racism in any of these cases so all you doing is making a case for not arresting criminals.He was selling them at the time the police arrested him and that's why he resisted arrest so violently.He was selling untaxed cigarettes, which is a crime, and he and he actively resisted arrest by swatting away an officer's arm who was trying to cuff him, which is another crime. He had a long criminal record and was currently out on bail from another arrest and this arresting would have canceled his bail and sent him to jail to wait trial, which is likely why he so strenuously resisted the police officers. He weighed 350 lbs and had a plethora of diseases that were life threatening and it is not at all clear the coke hold killed him. What is clear is that any attempt to arrest this six foot three, 350 lb guy who was resisting arrest would be dangerous to both the police and to him. So you must be saying that the proper thing for the police to do would have been to just walk away and allow him to go on breaking the law.what the fk does that mean?We are speaking by and large where there are no victims. Millions of people are arrested every year and no one is protesting the vast majority of those arrests.
Just what I said. Eric Garner was doing no one any harm by standing on the sidewalk.
He had sold untaxed cigarettes in the past. You do not get to search someone over something someone did in the past and NO ONE should ever be arrested for that.
No he wasn't. You know this by now also but you aren't going to let that stop you.
I'm "carrying on" because they violated his civil rights and the city paid the family millions over that. He was not selling cigarettes. If he was you can bet the police would have made a big deal about finding them on him. They didn't.
There was no original crime.
He wasn't out on bail. If the police have no reason to search me, they aren't either.
Where the fuk have you been?Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
Your response has no relevance to what the OP is talking about. Are you saying this huge wave of hatred toward ALL police is justified? Do you have any idea what the repercussions of the "Black Lies Matter" movement is going to have on this country?You'd be angry too if you got stopped about twenty times in a row because a felony warrant came up in the system and turned out to be bogus. The cops have got to reform their "system". It's a Democrat political machine enforced as fiat, street justice railroaded through the greased wheels of a rubber-stamp guilty-as-charged maximum-punishment court system.He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something
Where the fuk have you been?Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
People are marching across the nation in big cities and small
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.
And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Haven’t seen bigger protests since the 60sWhere the fuk have you been?Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
People are marching across the nation in big cities and small
You have no sense, whatsoever, at measuring size and scale!
Haven’t seen bigger protests since the 60sWhere the fuk have you been?Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
People are marching across the nation in big cities and small
You have no sense, whatsoever, at measuring size and scale!
LinkHaven’t seen bigger protests since the 60sWhere the fuk have you been?Lot of people eh? Have you counted them then worked out what percentage of the population they represent? Take an honest look at it (drop your bias) and you'll see that I'm right.LOT of people marching in the street for weeksNo, they have lost the trust and goodwill of the people who never had it for them in the first place then others used that non-existent trust and goodwill as an excuse to take advantage of situations for personal and socio-political agendas.........Bad time to be a cop
They have lost the trust and goodwill of the public. Much of it is undeserved but the public has reached an “enough is enough” point.
It will take a while to patch things up.
That is not the media and that is not false outrage.
Like it or not, people are pissed at the cops and their response has not helped their case.
People are marching across the nation in big cities and small
You have no sense, whatsoever, at measuring size and scale!
The protests in the 60"s directly involved 4% of the population that actually participated.