My Folks were immigrants, they didn't own anyone

[Toddsterpatriot]

They did find work and they did get paid. Slaves did not

We're talking about after slavery now.

 

[AZrailwhale]

In the 400 years of slave labor, they were freed without even the 40 acres and a mule. began with nothing and not even jobs. Every white family, whether they owned slaves or not did work did get paid and accumulated land, etc. Slaves had nothing to start with or to pass down to descendents.

Most immigrants in those days barely made enough for subsistence. There was nothing to pass on to descendants. The land accumulated was broken from virgin forest or prairie. No one just scattered seed on the ground and brought in crops, it took backbreaking labor sometimes over generations to produce profitable farms. As late as the nineteen thirties, most farms were subsistence operations without power or running water. A lot of WWII draftees from rural areas saw their first running water in basic training.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What took them so long to free the slave. Only because slaves were taking jobs from white people. Looking just at the slave states then, there were 393,975 slave owners in the slave states out of a population of 12,240,293. So this means that 3.22 percent of the population of the 15 slave states were slave owners.
The confederacy’s 11 states had 316,632 slave owners out of a free population of 5,582,222. This equals 5.67 percent of the free population of the confederacy were slave owners
As far as the institution of chattel slavery - the treatment of slaves as property - in the United States, if we use 1619 as the beginning and the 1865 Thirteenth Amendment as its end then it lasted 246 years,

The problem with your math is the a United States didn’t exist until 1776 and slavery was banned in 1865. When we controlled our own government slavery lasted less than seventy years.

 

[ninja007]

pretty sure im2 is obama. or clinton.

 

[ninja007]

IM2 doesnt mind all the luxuries of life he uses wears and drives because of the white man though!

 

[ninja007]

All Americans have benefited from hundreds of years of slavery through the government that allowed it. Slaves built this country. Descendants of slaves need to be paid reparation. Just as Natives were paid.

they do its called welfare paid for by whites cradle to grave you ignorant fuck.

 

[ninja007]

All Americans benefited from the slave labor of enslaved Africans. Additionally, White Americans today are still benefiting from that pseudo caste system.

you mean the rich elite far left politicians you vote for?

 

[ninja007]

Racist white Americans live in denial. They tell themselves we are complaining about slavery instead of understanding that we are talking about the cumulative harm created by an American system based on white racial preference.

you dont get to tell us whites anything because youre not white.

 

[ninja007]

Reparations are owed from the end of slavery to this very second. We don't even have to include slavery.

those welfare checks 80% of blacks get from cradle to grave are youre reperations from us whites.

 

[ninja007]

i think im2 time would be better spent helping his "kind" then on here being a boring racist with the same thing said in 35,000 posts.

 

[LilOlLady]

The problem with your math is the a United States didn’t exist until 1776 and slavery was banned in 1865. When we controlled our own government slavery lasted less than seventy years.

Evidently, you failed American history.

America's History of Slavery Began Long Before Jamestown​

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

 

[ninja007]

im2 never thinks if us whites wanted the blacks to be slaves we could do it in 24 hours.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

ALL RISE!

This mornings lesson:

MY FOLKS WERE IMMIGRANTS, THEY DIDN'T OWN ANYONE!

After slavery, blacks were being killed by whites with no crimes charged while the Supreme Court basically repealed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments with a series of rulings. Due the consistent state and federally protected barbaric acts by whites, southern blacks felt they had to go north. When blacks started moving north, southern business and government leaders enacted laws in order to stop free people from going where they could earn a decent living. But even under the threat of jail or death, millions of blacks headed north where they believe they'd be treated right. If they had known what was waiting up north, the migration would have ended in Canada.

As blacks went north they found that the only difference between a southern white and a northern one was geography. When blacks went north, so did lynchings. They are recorded as race riots, but the reality is that there were a series of massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites due to the northern migration of blacks trying to escape massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites in the south. Historians call what happened riots and this is why it’s so hilarious to listen to the disingenuous fake outrage of the racist white subculture about blacks and riots today.

On the evening of Saturday July 19th, 1919, in Washington D.C., a group of white veterans started a rumor about a black man suspected of sexually assaulting the wife of a white Navy man. This rumor spread throughout the bars and restaurants in downtown Washington D.C. Later that night, a mob of drunken mad white men headed to a predominantly black neighborhood carrying weapons. Those mad white men proceeded to beat all the blacks they found. They snatched blacks out of their cars or off sidewalks and beat them for no reason. Where were the police? I think they had donut shops back then, but I am not sure. The violence continued into Sunday because the D.C. Metro Police failed to stop it. Random blacks got beat down on the streets of Washington. This even happened in front of the White House.

The Omaha Race Riot occurred on September 28–29, 1919. Three conditions: black property acquisition, economic anxiety and claims of black male sexual aggression, have been the general standard for white violence against blacks throughout American history. The Omaha Riots met at least 2 of the 3 conditions. The lynching of Will Brown was started by reports in local media about the alleged rape of a woman on September 25, 1919. The following day the police arrested Brown. Brown was blamed for the rape without the victim making a positive identification. There was an attempt to lynch Brown on the day of his arrest, but it failed.

The Omaha Bee publicized the incident claiming it was part of a series of alleged attacks on white women by black men in Omaha. The Bee was controlled by Thomas Rosewater who was a friends with a man named Thomas Dennison. Dennison ran a political machine that controlled Omaha at that time. To be blunt, Dennison was a crook. He controlled Omaha for 18 years before the city elected a non-Dennison flunky for mayor. His name was Edward Smith. Denison did not like that, so to make Smith look bad, Dennisons men ran amuck throughout the town wearing blackface while assaulting women and blamed blacks for it. These incidents were orchestrated by Dennison and Rosewaters paper pumped up the fake news. So thanks to his buddy at the Omaha Bee, Dennison and his friends race baited the people of Omaha and incited the Omaha Riots. On the night of the lynching, Omaha Police even caught one of Dennisons men wearing blackface. Dennison nor any of his associates were charged or convicted for what they did. Will Brown was not so fortunate. Brown was lynched, shot up after he was dead, dragged through the streets of Omaha and set on fire. He had committed no crime.

White mob violence did not end in 1919. One of the worst acts of domestic terrorism in America happened in two days of American history beginning on May 31st, 1921 in Tulsa Oklahoma. This is better known as “The Tulsa Massacre.” One may as well say this was an act of war waged on the black citizens of Tulsa Oklahoma by white citizens. I say this because not only were blacks attacked on the ground they were attacked by air. In a manner best described by the scene of Ben Richards being told to shoot the people during a food riot in “The Running Man”, whites in private planes flew over the black community shooting down on blacks and firebombing black homes and businesses.

“I could see planes circling in mid-air. They grew in number and hummed, darted and dipped low. I could hear something like hail falling upon the top of my office building. Down East Archer, I saw the old Mid-Way hotel on fire, burning from its top, and then another and another and another building began to burn from their top,”


B.C. Franklin​

The excuse by city law enforcement officials was that the planes were reconnaissance used to protect against a Negro uprising. Still today, an accurate accounting of the number of dead varies. More than 6,000 people were either admitted to hospitals or sent to other large facilities for care. More than 10,000 blacks were left homeless. The bombings and ground attacks destroyed 35 city blocks of Tulsa, resulting in damages that equaled over 32 million dollars in today’s money. None of the victims or their descendants have been compensated for this act of terror to this day. Pretty soon blacks in Tulsa will have to hear that sad, sorry song that starts with, “I was not alive then.”

I just don’t think people really understand just exactly how bad things have been for blacks after leaving Africa when they start trying to blame blacks for the slave trade or slave ownership. I am waiting for the day somebody white tries to say that blacks created the black codes, sundown towns and Jim Crow. This is the state of the madness here in America at this time. Whites have complained about political correctness and yet when political incorrectness is applied to them, suddenly things must be forgotten, revised, altered or kept quiet.

On December 23, 1945, Mr. and Mrs. H. O’Day Short and their 2 children were burned to death in Fontana California. The description of this was; “A fire of incendiary origions set by persons who did not want them to move into the white community.” Before they were murdered the family was threatened and got no protection from the police. According to the report, the Shorts had no electricity and was using gas lamps at the time they moved in. This was supposed to be temporary. While the Shorts were out of the house, people broke in, sprayed the house with a flammable chemical and when the Shorts got home and started lighting their lamps, the house went up in flames.

For the first 5 years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were 357 acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority white neighborhoods. In 1951 a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home the burned his furniture. Aside from trying to force Clark out of his own home, the police did nothing. In first six months of 1955 there were 213 acts of violence against blacks by whites is Philadelphia. These were acts of terror committed to intimidate blacks so they would not move into white communities. In 1964 when blacks again tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was again vandalized. After the apartment was vandalized, police entered the apartment, took out the furniture and told the renters they had been evicted. At the same time, in Detroit there were over 200 acts of violence against blacks by whites to terrorize black families so they would not move to the suburbs. From 1950-1965 there were over 100 bombings of black owned residences in Los Angeles. In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. Whites responded with gunfire and firebombs.

This kind of terrorism has gone long ignored in understanding the brutality and long-lasting effects of such acts upon blacks in America. For decades prosperous blacks were terrorized while black communities were destroyed by mobs of angry whites who felt they were losing out because blacks had acquired the same things whites had. Ignored was the fact that blacks worked hard to get what they had, but that did not matter because blacks were to always be lesser than whites and the caste was to be created and maintained by any means necessary.

Blacks peacefully moved north to compete for same opportunities white immigrants had and this is just a small bit of what happened. White immigrants are the ones who committed the violence against blacks. White immigrants destroyed thriving black communities. The same white immigrants whose descendants tell us today how they are not responsible because their ancestors did not own slaves.

Chris Wolfgang, Mafiosi and Madams, Omaha Magazine, August 29, 2013, https://omahamagazine.com/articles/tag/edward-parsons-smith/

Dennison’s Political Machine, Dennison’s Political Machine

B.C Franklin, The Tulsa Race Riots and Three of It’s Victims, A Long-Lost Manuscript Contains a Searing Eyewitness Account of the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921

William L. Patterson, We Charge Genocide, 4th edition, International Publishers Co., Inc., New York, 2017 pp.60-61

Richard Rothstein, Color of Law, Liverright Publishing, pp.144, 145, 147, 2018

Jae Jones, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenants, November 14, 2018, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenantsblack-family-tenants/

Charles Abrams, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero: Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero:Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend

Christy Clark-Pujara and Anna-Lisa Cox, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence, smithsonianmag.com, August 27, 2020, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence

Too long and you didn’t prove your point

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Evidently, you failed American history.

America's History of Slavery Began Long Before Jamestown​

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

It was called North America in the 1500s? Oh

 

[LilOlLady]

those welfare checks 80% of blacks get from cradle to grave are youre reperations from us whites.

Liar, Blacks worked and paid into the system while it was mostly whites on welfare because it was not given to Blacks. 38.8% of all white Americans and 39.8% of all Black Americans are on welfare.

How decades of US welfare policies lifted up the white middle class and largely excluded Black Americanshttps://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/my-folks-were-immigrants-they-didnt-own-anyone.898176/page-10#post-29518405​

In fact, far more white people have benefited from US welfare programs over the years — reflecting their greater share of the population — while Black people and other people of color have been denied them in various ways, multiple historians and researchers tell Business Insider. While Blacks paid into the welfare system with their taxes. just as immigrants are paying for your social security and into the welfare system.

 

[ninja007]

Liar, Blacks worked and paid into the system while it was mostly whites on welfare because it was not given to Blacks. 38.8% of all white Americans and 39.8% of all Black Americans are on welfare.

How decades of US welfare policies lifted up the white middle class and largely excluded Black Americanshttps://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/my-folks-were-immigrants-they-didnt-own-anyone.898176/page-10#post-29518405​

In fact, far more white people have benefited from US welfare programs over the years — reflecting their greater share of the population — while Black people and other people of color have been denied them in various ways, multiple historians and researchers tell Business Insider. While Blacks paid into the welfare system with their taxes. just as immigrants are paying for your social security and into the welfare system.

youd be naked on the street with nothing without us whites.

 

[LilOlLady]

im2 never thinks if us whites wanted the blacks to be slaves we could do it in 24 hours.

Bring it on Punk Ass Little Bitch.

 

[ninja007]

Bring it on Punk Ass Little Bitch.

we got the brains, the power, the guns, the armies. now go sit down buckwheat before i slap the fro off your face.

 

[BlackSand]

Evidently, you failed American history.

America's History of Slavery Began Long Before Jamestown​

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

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If you have a problem with the British ... Take it to them ...

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[MizMolly]

What took them so long to free the slave. Only because slaves were taking jobs from white people. Looking just at the slave states then, there were 393,975 slave owners in the slave states out of a population of 12,240,293. So this means that 3.22 percent of the population of the 15 slave states were slave owners.
The confederacy’s 11 states had 316,632 slave owners out of a free population of 5,582,222. This equals 5.67 percent of the free population of the confederacy were slave owners
As far as the institution of chattel slavery - the treatment of slaves as property - in the United States, if we use 1619 as the beginning and the 1865 Thirteenth Amendment as its end then it lasted 246 years,

Ok, you just proved my point. Very few people had slaves.