My wifes story should be a caution for all in favor of "single payer healthcare"

[Rustic]

I find it odd a lot of people are complaining about how much they have to pay. When we were in the States back in 2006-2007 a lot of people we talked to were paying a lot more through their insurance for their healthcare than we were. Some made more money than us and some made a lot less money than us. All of them were paying significantly higher than we were. They were all shocked when they found out how much we were paying. So I believe these high costs for healthcare have always been there. When comparisons are made about the price of medicine, hospital stays and various other medical preparations you Americans pay a whole lot more. You should be working on trying to fix that.

Insurance is not healthcare dip shit… And no one should be forced into a socialist entitlement programs like Obamacare. We are not all in this together, it does not take a fucking village and you can shove your globalism up your fucking ass…

 

[Rustic]

So I shouldnt expect better care since I'm paying for it rather than getting it paid for by someone else?

Did you not read my post. We have single payer healthcare and I got 2 different results. In fact my second surgery was from one of the best surgeons in the country. As much as I hated waiting a long tome for my first surgery I would not trade it to prevent others from getting any healthcare because that's just the kind of person I am. Also to see the situation in such black and white terms is absurd. Many hardworking middle class people were denied healthcare through their insurance companies for a multitude of reasons.

So you'd be willing to miss months of work and the pay that goes with it? Not to mention the pain and suffering.
I'm fine with you getting substandard care but personally I prefer high quality care for myself.

I prefer high quality care myself also but I wouldn't want it knowing my neighbors would get no care.

Who said anything about no care?

Are you not arguing about going back to the old way, through private insurance for your healthcare. Under that system many Americans got no healthcare.

Shit for brains, insurance/single payer is not healthcare… It's extortion legalized by a fucked up overbearing federal government.

 

[Tuatara]

I find it odd a lot of people are complaining about how much they have to pay. When we were in the States back in 2006-2007 a lot of people we talked to were paying a lot more through their insurance for their healthcare than we were. Some made more money than us and some made a lot less money than us. All of them were paying significantly higher than we were. They were all shocked when they found out how much we were paying. So I believe these high costs for healthcare have always been there. When comparisons are made about the price of medicine, hospital stays and various other medical preparations you Americans pay a whole lot more. You should be working on trying to fix that.

Insurance is not healthcare dip shit… And no one should be forced into a socialist entitlement programs like Obamacare. We are not all in this together, it does not take a fucking village and you can shove your globalism up your fucking ass…

Wow, your anger escalated. You are very sensitive. Ironic that you must now read your own Yoda picture.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Control someone's healthcare and you control them.

 

[Tom Horn]

Mid-western Canadians flock to Spokane, Washington for medical care which is a mistake because the city is full of quacks. My wife needed 3 root canal surgeries after 3 fillings she got in our year there. When he froze her upper gums, novacane shot out her nose. I was told I had glaucoma during a routine eye checkup...back in Phoenix an opthamologist told me I had 20-15 vision and perfect optic nerves. So their choice is get it done fast and wrong in Spokane or wait for months in Canada.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Mid-western Canadians flock to Spokane, Washington for medical care which is a mistake because the city is full of quacks. My wife needed 3 root canal surgeries after 3 fillings she got in our year there. When he froze her upper gums, novacane shot out her nose. I was told I had glaucoma during a routine eye checkup...back in Phoenix an opthamologist told me I had 20-15 vision and perfect optic nerves. So their choice is get it done fast and wrong in Spokane or wait for months in Canada.

My sister works here at the Cleveland Clinic and tells me about all the Canadian patients they get there. Canadians are amazed at how good and timely treatment they get as well as more positive diagnosis than they got in Canada. I have no idea WTF those Canadian doctors are telling their patients.