MYTH killer..SHOCK: Trump’s official voting record released by NYC, shows he's been Repub since 1980

[Arianrhod]

So he's amoral, disloyal, and inexperienced. We already know that; no need to keep reminding us.

Also, you may never have had a candidate turn down big money before (can you prove that, though?), but the other side has had one from the beginning. When he does it, you announce that he's "senile." When your boy - only five years younger - does it, he's a genius.

You guys are almost as funny as Trump.

I can't prove a negative. You'll have to provide me with the candidates name that refused to take big donations. Could you supply me with that name? Thank you.

I could, but it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention. Hint: He's the only major candidate who's not a b/millionaire.

In other words the far left drones do not have any proof..

Any proof that you can't make a post without the word "drone(s)"? That's self-evident.

So here is the current list:

2016 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets

I'm sure Jackson appreciates your doing his homework for him.

Once again the far left makes claims they can not provide proof for!

They just are here to run their religious narratives without question or hesitation that are not connected to reality!

And there's the other speech you can't help making.

Can you contribute to the topic for a change?

If not, post it again.

 

[Jackson]

I think what is going on, is that Trump has been a registered Republican for over thirty years. How ever, we know he has donated substantially to the campaigns of Democrats and Republicans! He isn''t that clever, all successful businessmen play the game of oiling the palm of those in power.

The big difference is that Trump knows that game and is standing against it for his possible administration. That is why he is accepting only small donations, not more than $2780 so he won't be owned by others. Good move. We've never had a candidate turn down big money before. That part of Trump is a breath of fresh air.

So he's amoral, disloyal, and inexperienced. We already know that; no need to keep reminding us.

Also, you may never have had a candidate turn down big money before (can you prove that, though?), but the other side has had one from the beginning. When he does it, you announce that he's "senile." When your boy - only five years younger - does it, he's a genius.

You guys are almost as funny as Trump.

I can't prove a negative. You'll have to provide me with the candidates name that refused to take big donations. Could you supply me with that name? Thank you.

I could, but it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention. Hint: He's the only major candidate who's not a b/millionaire.

In other words the far left drones do not have any proof..

So here is the current list:

2016 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets

Another chart:

Millions Raised and Spent So Far

Totals for super PACs and other outside groups are through June 30.

1​

Jeb Bush

TOTAL RAISEDIN MILLIONS​

$133.3​

CANDIDATERAISED​

$24.8​

SPENT​

$14.5​

CASH ON HAND​

$10.3​

SUPER PACS & OTHER PACSRAISED​

$108.5​

SPENT​

$10.3​

CASH ON HAND​

$98.2​

OTHER GROUPSRAISED​

2​

Hillary Clinton

97.7​

77.5​

44.5​

33.0​

20.3​

5.3​

15.8​

3​

Ted Cruz

64.9​

26.6​

12.8​

13.8​

38.4​

1.0​

37.5​

4​

Marco Rubio

47.7​

14.6*​

7.7​

11.0​

17.3​

0.8​

16.5​

15.8​

5​

Bernie Sanders

41.5​

41.5​

14.3​

27.1​

0.0​

0.1​

0.0​

6​

Ben Carson

31.6​

31.4​

20.1​

11.3​

0.2​

0.2​

0.2​

7​

Chris Christie

18.6​

4.2​

2.8​

1.4​

14.4​

3.0​

11.4​

8​

Rand Paul

16.4​

9.4​

7.3​

2.1​

6.9​

1.5​

5.8​

9​

John Kasich

16.1​

4.4​

1.7​

2.6​

11.7​

10​

Carly Fiorina

12.0​

8.5​

2.9​

5.5​

3.5​

1.5​

2.1​

11​

Bobby Jindal

9.9​

1.2​

0.9​

0.3​

3.7​

1.2​

2.6​

5.0​

12​

Mike Huckabee

7.7​

3.2​

2.5​

0.8​

4.5​

1.2​

3.7​

13​

Lindsey Graham

7.7​

4.8​

3.1​

1.7​

2.9​

0.2​

2.8​

14​

Donald Trump

5.8​

5.8​

5.6​

0.3​

15​

Martin O’Malley

3.6​

3.3​

2.5​

0.8​

0.3​

0.5​

0.4​

16​

Rick Santorum

1.3​

1.0​

0.8​

0.2​

0.3​

0.7​

0.0​

17​

George Pataki

1.3​

0.4​

0.4​

0.0​

0.9​

0.8​

0.1​

18​

Lawrence Lessig

1.0​

1.0​

0.4​

0.6​

19​

Jim Webb

0.7​

0.7​

0.4​

0.3​

0.0​

0.0​

0.1​

20​

Lincoln Chafee

0.4​

0.4​

0.1​

0.3​

21​

Jim Gilmore

0.1​

0.1​

0.1​

0.0​

Scott WalkerDROPPED OUT

33.6​

7.4​

6.4​

1.0​

20.0​

1.0​

19.0​

6.2​

Rick PerryDROPPED OUT

15.3​

1.4​

1.8​

0.0​

13.8​

2.1​

11.9​

Numbers reported to the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service are shown in black. Figures that were announced to the news media but not officially filed are shown in gray. Most of the outside groups are not required to file their next report until Jan. 31, and while some have announced funds raised during the third quarter, those figures are not included here.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...on-2016-campaign-money-race.html?_r=0ARCHIVED COVERAGE FROM JULY 31, 2015

 

[Kosh]

I can't prove a negative. You'll have to provide me with the candidates name that refused to take big donations. Could you supply me with that name? Thank you.

I could, but it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention. Hint: He's the only major candidate who's not a b/millionaire.

In other words the far left drones do not have any proof..

Any proof that you can't make a post without the word "drone(s)"? That's self-evident.

So here is the current list:

2016 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets

I'm sure Jackson appreciates your doing his homework for him.

Once again the far left makes claims they can not provide proof for!

They just are here to run their religious narratives without question or hesitation that are not connected to reality!

And there's the other speech you can't help making.

Can you contribute to the topic for a change?

If not, post it again.

Oh these silly far left drones and their irony impaired comments!

 

[Toro]

You guys do know that it does not matter if Trump is a devout Republican nor a rock ribbed conservative, right?

The fact is he expressed a feeling about illegals and terrorism plus other topics that resonates with Americans is what is key.

I do not know how you top that, especially since Trump stood his ground when attacked from all sides. Makes you want to support him if you've been yelling kicked the illegals out or destroy ISIS for a few years and nothings happened.

I get that. He's also talking to blue collar workers who have been the losers of capitalism over the past 30 years. He's giving voice to people who are frustrated.

But being against illegal immigration, the establishment and ISIS are not the only things that matter. That's why so many conservatives have come out against him as being a charlatan.

Romney is a RINO even though he ran a conservative campaign because of his past record. But when Trump's past much greater liberal record is brought up, Trump "conservatives" claim that he's like Reagan, and it doesn't matter. It's confirmation bias defined. They'll believe anything they tell them, and will rationalize the inconsistencies any way they can. That's what emotion does.

 

[Jackson]

How exactly can they release his voting record when ballots don't have your name on them and are all mixed together?

Don't you sign every time you vote?

In my state you sign a register, not your ballot. Do you have to sign the ballot in your state?

No, but the question was how would someone know his party affiliation. The actual ballot would tell someone nothing about affiliation. But the registry would and that is how I assume they know. Signing the ballot wouldn't make it very secret.

Vigilante made the mistake of getting so excited about the headline in the blog he stumbled over that he never bothered to follow the link in that blog to this:

Trump (+ Melania & Ivanka) never voted in a GOP presidential primary

Which says the opposite of the point he thought he was making.

Trump registered Republican - because the big money on Wall Street is predominantly Republican - but never voted in a Republican primary.

Opportunism, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with it as a private citizen, but telling in a candidate for public office.

Many people don't vote in primaries! I don't unless there are local issues I'm voting on.

Do you really think that "Trump doesn't vote in Primaries" is a deal breaker??? LOL

 

[Arianrhod]

^See, Jackson? You can do your own homework.

But you need to update. As your link indicates, that info is from last July, and several of those candidates have dropped out.

 

[auditor0007]

How exactly can they release his voting record when ballots don't have your name on them and are all mixed together?

The only thing they could release is his party affiliation, if he was registered with one party or the other. As for how he voted, that cannot be disclosed.

 

[Arianrhod]

How exactly can they release his voting record when ballots don't have your name on them and are all mixed together?

Don't you sign every time you vote?

In my state you sign a register, not your ballot. Do you have to sign the ballot in your state?

No, but the question was how would someone know his party affiliation. The actual ballot would tell someone nothing about affiliation. But the registry would and that is how I assume they know. Signing the ballot wouldn't make it very secret.

Vigilante made the mistake of getting so excited about the headline in the blog he stumbled over that he never bothered to follow the link in that blog to this:

Trump (+ Melania & Ivanka) never voted in a GOP presidential primary

Which says the opposite of the point he thought he was making.

Trump registered Republican - because the big money on Wall Street is predominantly Republican - but never voted in a Republican primary.

Opportunism, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with it as a private citizen, but telling in a candidate for public office.

Many people don't vote in primaries! I don't unless there are local issues I'm voting on.

Do you really think that "Trump doesn't vote in Primaries" is a deal breaker??? LOL

No, I just think it's funny when one of you grabs a headline, doesn't read the article, and then needs someone else to tell you it does not mean what you think it means.

 

[Toro]

I don't think I've seen someone so in love with a candidate like you are and that's saying a lot.

No doubt.

Vag posted the picture below, which of course, was just begging to be made fun of.

 

[SwimExpert]

I think what is going on, is that Trump has been a registered Republican for over thirty years. How ever, we know he has donated substantially to the campaigns of Democrats and Republicans! He isn''t that clever, all successful businessmen play the game of oiling the palm of those in power.

The big difference is that Trump knows that game and is standing against it for his possible administration. That is why he is accepting only small donations, not more than $2780 so he won't be owned by others. Good move. We've never had a candidate turn down big money before. That part of Trump is a breath of fresh air.

You Trumpians crack me up! You act like voting for the man who buys the politicians is somehow better than voting for politicians who he buys. It's like buying an Iphone factory direct because Apple uses Chinese slave labor.

 

[Toro]

Trump is the only candidate who has built a huge company and who has a personal worth that runs in the billions of dollars. In addition, he has excellent education credentials (graduate of the New York Military Academy and then of the prestigious Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania with a degree in economics). He is arguably the most accomplished, successful person ever to run for the presidency.

I don't think any other candidate can touch him in terms of his knowledge of international business, finance, and trade.

Nice talking points but reality is different.

Most banks won't deal with him because he's not a man of his word. He totally fucked over EF Hutton back when they financed one of his casinos. Much of his financing has come from retail investors, i.e. you, if you have any money at all. Many big institutions won't touch his bonds, so he sells them to retail moms & pops because they are attracted to his brand. And then he defaults on them.

He's a man of shady business practices. He won't pay his bills. He'll pay 80%-85% of them, then refuse to pay the rest, daring people to sue him.

He long ago stopped owning and developing real estate outright and recreated himself as a brand. I'll give him credit for that, it's very smart. But one reason was because he was having difficulty raising capital, partly because he flirted with bankruptcy four times, and partly because lenders of capital see him as untrustworthy.

Colleagues of mine in New York tell me he is the biggest cheat in golf.

It's hilarious that people think he's trustworthy.

 

[HappyJoy]

Damn, I just HATE killing a NeoCommie and RINO talking point!

Prently ^ | January 23, 2016 | Voltova Dmitri
(photo at the link) Donald Trump’s official voting record has been released, showing that he was a registered Republican since at least 1980, throwing water on the theory that he was at one time a Democrat. This is causing major panic in the Cruz campaign that insisted that Trump recently switched his affiliation. Voting records for Trump’s adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, were not immediately available. Trump is leading by wide margins in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, and nearly every other state where pollsters take the Republican electorate’s temperature. In Iowa, he is running neck-and-neck with Republican Sen....

Not that it matters to me one way or another but do you have a better link/source? That's only a blog.

Politifact has this for 2001:

TrumpVR2001

And here is Trump touting Clinton and the economy under Democrats.



Like I said, doesn't really matter to me, but you should at least be honest with yourself.

You need to take off your partisan blinders. Trump had good reason to praise how Clinton was handling the economy. I've praised him too. Clinton held spending to its lowest rate of increase for the last 60 years, and, although he allowed modest hikes in the top two marginal rates (he left the lower rates intact), he cut the capital gains tax by a whopping 28%, nearly doubled the estate tax exemption, created a new $500 child tax credit, raised the income limit for deductible IRAs, and agreed to substantial deregulation. It's no wonder that the economy did even better under Clinton than it did under Reagan.

Take off my blinders? Maybe you should talk to Vag about that, I could care less who Trump liked or didn't like or what party he belonged to.

 

[Arizona Willie]

Damn, I just HATE killing a NeoCommie and RINO talking point!

Prently ^ | January 23, 2016 | Voltova Dmitri
(photo at the link) Donald Trump’s official voting record has been released, showing that he was a registered Republican since at least 1980, throwing water on the theory that he was at one time a Democrat. This is causing major panic in the Cruz campaign that insisted that Trump recently switched his affiliation. Voting records for Trump’s adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, were not immediately available. Trump is leading by wide margins in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, and nearly every other state where pollsters take the Republican electorate’s temperature. In Iowa, he is running neck-and-neck with Republican Sen....

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Bullshit!!

There is no way to identify an individual's ballot from the thousands of others in the machine.
It does not record your name when you cast your votes.
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL TO TELL WHO VOTED FOR WHOM.

 

[amrchaos]

Hey guys

Didn't Trump run for president on the Reform party ticket?

 

[Arianrhod]

Hey guys

Didn't Trump run for president on the Reform party ticket?

In 2000, yes, he did. Let's see Vigilante explain that away.

 

[rightwinger]

Fact is ...Trump never cared about politics or politicians unless he was buying one

 

[Vigilante]

I'm sorry people, I haven't had time to keep up with all the bullshit in here, snow and all that stuff. It really doesn't matter what I say, the haters are going to spin it the way they want and the pro's are going to do the same... I hope you all enjoyed the discourse and heated debate this caused, let's do it again, sometime!

 

[SwimExpert]

I'm sorry people, I haven't had time to keep up with all the bullshit in here, snow and all that stuff. It really doesn't matter what I say, the haters are going to spin it the way they want and the pro's are going to do the same... I hope you all enjoyed the discourse and heated debate this caused, let's do it again, sometime!

In other words...

 

[Vigilante]

I'm sorry people, I haven't had time to keep up with all the bullshit in here, snow and all that stuff. It really doesn't matter what I say, the haters are going to spin it the way they want and the pro's are going to do the same... I hope you all enjoyed the discourse and heated debate this caused, let's do it again, sometime!

In other words...

 

[Arianrhod]

I'm sorry people, I haven't had time to keep up with all the bullshit ...

The best way to eliminate the bullshit is to actually read the article you're linking to.