Nation's first female Somali American Muslim law makers takes Oath on Koran

[beagle9]

Then why not honor it in every way ?

Apparently 'honoring America' in your eyes is having people swear their oath of office on the Bible. Does this standard just apply to Muslims? Did Tulsi Gabbard not honor America when she was sworn in on Bhagavad Gita?

The Bible speaks of uncertain sounds and tongues. How is that the troops will ready themselves for the battle if the trumphet plays an uncertain sound ? If one speaks in an unknown tongue, then to you they are as a barbarian for whom you have not the understanding of what they speak, so Paul said that I will not have it that you are unlearned, so it is better to speak with words of understanding than to speak a thousand words in an unknown tongue. It's all about unifying, understanding, and security of these united States. It's a shame how ignorant we have become now.

 

[mdk]

I wish it were true.

Any Muslim who is true to the Quran could never live the American way, which on its face in nonsectarian and that is for starters.

Further according to ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman:

"In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."

First Barbary War - Wikipedia


If something has changed please let me know with source material, preferably primary source material.

You're right. You can't be a good Muslim and a good American.

No citation....nice...

The the reality I desire, but a fact nonetheless.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I needed to provide a citation for my opinion.

At the end of the day here is the long list of things you can do about her choosing the Koran for her swearing-in ceremony:

1. Nothing
2. Whine about it on the Internet

 

[Coyote]

It is more than a book, it is a way of life which is antithetical to the American way of life.

She is an example of someone achieving the American Dream.

. Then why not honor it in every way ?

Yes....why not? Why not have her swear her oath of office upon something that has great meaning to her?

. Do you know what the meaning is to her ??

Her allegiance to the Quran was so string she had two ceremonies one was sponsored by the Muslim American Society of Minnesota where Imans did a great deal of the talking.

"Allegiance"? That's a curious way of describing faith.

And your point is what exactly? That she had one swearing in ceremony and then a party to celebrate?

 

[beagle9]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

Why is this a bad thing?

Shouldn't have to tell you.

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

 

[mdk]

Then why not honor it in every way ?

Apparently 'honoring America' in your eyes is having people swear their oath of office on the Bible. Does this standard just apply to Muslims? Did Tulsi Gabbard not honor America when she was sworn in on Bhagavad Gita?

The Bible speaks of uncertain sounds and tongues. How is that the troops will ready themselves for the battle if the trumphet plays an uncertain sound ? If one speaks in an unknown tongue, then to you they are as a barbarian for whom you have not the understanding of what they speak, so Paul said that I will not have it that you are unlearned, so it is better to speak with words of understanding than to speak a thousand words in an unknown tongue. It's all about unifying, understanding, and security of these united States. It's a shame how ignorant we have become now.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[beagle9]

I wish it were true.

Any Muslim who is true to the Quran could never live the American way, which on its face in nonsectarian and that is for starters.

Further according to ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman:

"In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."

First Barbary War - Wikipedia


If something has changed please let me know with source material, preferably primary source material.

You're right. You can't be a good Muslim and a good American.

No citation....nice...

The the reality I desire, but a fact nonetheless.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I needed to provide a citation for my opinion.

At the end of the day here is the long list of things you can do about her choosing the Koran for her swearing-in ceremony:

1. Nothing
2. Whine about it on the Internet

. That might be changing.

 

[Brynmr]

Your example is way off base with none of the qualifiers that this woman has. She pledged her allegiance to both the US and the Quran they are mutually exclusive ideologies.

And Moslems are instructed by their religion to place Islamic law above man made law - always. Her religion will always come before America.

 

[mdk]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

Why is this a bad thing?

Shouldn't have to tell you.

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

Feel free to explain to us how she is responsible for dead Americans.

 

[mdk]

That might be changing.

Are you going to pass a law that requires every person use the Bible for their swearing-in ceremonies?

 

[beagle9]

Then why not honor it in every way ?

Apparently 'honoring America' in your eyes is having people swear their oath of office on the Bible. Does this standard just apply to Muslims? Did Tulsi Gabbard not honor America when she was sworn in on Bhagavad Gita?

The Bible speaks of uncertain sounds and tongues. How is that the troops will ready themselves for the battle if the trumphet plays an uncertain sound ? If one speaks in an unknown tongue, then to you they are as a barbarian for whom you have not the understanding of what they speak, so Paul said that I will not have it that you are unlearned, so it is better to speak with words of understanding than to speak a thousand words in an unknown tongue. It's all about unifying, understanding, and security of these united States. It's a shame how ignorant we have become now.

You didn't answer my question.

. In unity it should apply to all here. To allow chaos is to invite chaos, but that's what liberals are all about these days.

 

[Brynmr]

She appears to have adapted quite well.

So did Nidal Hasan until he opened fire on American citizens.

 

[Alex.]

I wish it were true.

Any Muslim who is true to the Quran could never live the American way, which on its face in nonsectarian and that is for starters.

Further according to ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman:

"In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."

First Barbary War - Wikipedia


If something has changed please let me know with source material, preferably primary source material.

You're right. You can't be a good Muslim and a good American.

No citation....nice...

The the reality I desire, but a fact nonetheless.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I needed to provide a citation for my opinion.

At the end of the day here is the long list of things you can do about her choosing the Koran for her swearing-in ceremony:

1. Nothing
2. Whine about it on the Internet

...and you can sit, get stoned and play stupid games in the FZ while people who actually give a shit about society try to find solutions to some pretty horrible things that have found their way in our way of life while we try to accept all people in our lives unencumbered by the bad acts of those who may be members of their religion/way of thinking.

 

[beagle9]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

Shouldn't have to tell you.

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

Feel free to explain to us how she is responsible for dead Americans.

. Don't play dumb, and answer the question.

 

[mdk]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

Feel free to explain to us how she is responsible for dead Americans.

. Don't play dumb, and answer the question.

So you are blaming her for dead Americans that she had nothing to do with.

 

[Brynmr]

Alex was spot on. Islam and America are mutually exclusive ideologies. The alt-Left are too stupid to realize this. Of course they don't think much of America anyway, which is why they want to transform us into a European style socialist state.

 

[Coyote]

She appears to have adapted quite well.

So did Nidal Hasan until he opened fire on American citizens.

So now you are comparing this young woman to Nidal Hasan?

 

[beagle9]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

Shouldn't have to tell you.

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

Feel free to explain to us how she is responsible for dead Americans.

. Maybe not her in that she pulled the trigger, but it could very well be found within the religious doctrine that is taken literally by some over time.

 

[Coyote]

Your example is way off base with none of the qualifiers that this woman has. She pledged her allegiance to both the US and the Quran they are mutually exclusive ideologies.

And Moslems are instructed by their religion to place Islamic law above man made law - always. Her religion will always come before America.

So are Christians. Big deal. That doesn't seem to stop decent people from finding a way to accommodate their faith to public service or America.

 

[beagle9]

She appears to have adapted quite well.

So did Nidal Hasan until he opened fire on American citizens.

So now you are comparing this young woman to Nidal Hasan?

. Liberal games you are gonna play now ??

 

[Coyote]

Islam isn't compatible with the I

So why is this a bad thing?

Because Islam is not compatible with our culture at all.

Even though Muslims have been here since the founding and are your neighbors and mine? Should A,Erica put a blanket ban on Islam as part of our freedom of religion? Is xenophobia part and parcel of the American culture you claim to love?

. Feel free to explain DEAD AMERICANS to us anytime you want... And don't make excuses.

Feel free to explain to us how she is responsible for dead Americans.

. Maybe not her in that she pulled the trigger, but it could very well be in the religious doctrine that is taken literally by some over time.

Are you saying she is responsible in any way for the acts of extremists?