Nato to Keep the Ukraine at Arm's Length.

[Donald H]

NATO to keep Ukraine at arm’s length

Ukraine will be permitted to join NATO only when it meets all requirements, the US-led bloc has agreed

www.rt.com

“We reaffirm the commitment we made at the 2008 summit in Bucharest that Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and today we recognize that Ukraine’s path to full Euro-Atlantic integration has moved beyond the need for the Membership Action Plan,” the statement read.

Which really means that America and only some Nato members will have a say.

And so it's now necessary to say that Nato is absolutely a tool of America's aggression.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Oddball]

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

El Mundo: Hungarian Prime Minister Orban has accused the West of seeking to continue the conflict in Ukraine

Ukraine has lost its sovereignty because it has no money and is fighting with Western weapons, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Kossuth radio station, El Mundo reports. At the same time, the Hungarian leader also accused the West of wanting to continue the Ukrainian conflict.

Hungarian Prime Minister, as El Mundo writes, "ultra-nationalist" Viktor Orban accused the West of wanting to continue the conflict in Ukraine. He added that this is why his government is preparing for a long armed conflict in the neighboring country.
"Western countries want this conflict. There is an overwhelming majority of those who support this conflict," Orban said on the air of Kossuth radio station.

The Hungarian prime minister also commented on the recent NATO summit in Vilnius, where, among other things, Ukraine's accession to the alliance was discussed. Orban noted that Kiev's demands to join the bloc are understandable.
"But if we were to fulfill them, we would get involved in World War III," he emphasized.

At the same time, Orban criticized the Ukrainian leadership's manner of communication, which he said is often "aggressive and demanding." He added that with the deliveries of Western weapons, Ukraine "has not even come close to peace."
The Hungarian leader, as the newspaper noted, also reiterated that Ukraine had "lost its sovereignty" because it had no money and was fighting with Western weapons.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

NATO want Ukraine as part of its alliance.

 

[Ringo]

Yellen Says Funding Ukraine's War Effort Is the Best Boost for Global Economy

Redoubling financial backing for Ukraine in its war with Russia is the “single best” way to aid the global economy, U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said.

www.breitbart.com

And that old witch must think she's on the side of good...
But it's nothing special, war is a source of profit for the capitalists.

 

[Baron]

NATO to keep Ukraine at arm’s length

Ukraine will be permitted to join NATO only when it meets all requirements, the US-led bloc has agreed

www.rt.com

Which really means that America and only some Nato members will have a say.

And so it's now necessary to say that Nato is absolutely a tool of America's aggression.

Ukraine is already practically a NATO member

 

[toomuchtime_]

Ukraine is already practically a NATO member

No, not really, but no peace agreement is possible without Ukraine becoming a member. Putin claims he started this war because of NATO's presence in eastern Europe, but his war against Ukraine has already enlarged NATO by one new member, Finland, another soon, Sweden, and it is inevitably Ukraine, when Russia finally concedes this war.

 

[BackAgain]

There is no “the” Ukraine.

There is a sovereign nation which is known as “Ukraine.”

 

[Silver Cat]

There is no “the” Ukraine.

There is a sovereign nation which is known as “Ukraine.”

It means just "Borderland". "The borderland". They tried to build a nation, but obviously failed.

 

[Silver Cat]

No, not really, but no peace agreement is possible without Ukraine becoming a member. Putin claims he started this war because of NATO's presence in eastern Europe, but his war against Ukraine has already enlarged NATO by one new member, Finland, another soon, Sweden, and it is inevitably Ukraine, when Russia finally concedes this war.

Actually, the peace is possible after total annexation of the lands of former Ukraine by its neighbors.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It means just "Borderland". "The borderland". They tried to build a nation, but obviously failed.

Not according to the rest of the world.

 

[BackAgain]

It means just "Borderland". "The borderland". They tried to build a nation, but obviously failed.

They built a nation. It is a separate and sovereign nation. Then Putin invaded that sovereign nation. It is Ukraine. Not “the” Ukraine.

Plus, even Wikipedia notes that your alleged definition of “Ukraine” is disputed.

Ukrainian scholars, beginning in the 1930s, have interpreted the term ukraina in the sense of "region, principality, country",[28]"the land around" or "the land pertaining to" a given centre.[29][30]

Linguist Hryhoriy Pivtorak (2001) argues that there is a difference between the two terms україна (Ukraina, "territory") and окраїна (okraina, "borderland"). Both are derived from krai "division, border, land parcel, territory" but with a difference in preposition, U (оу)) meaning "in" vs. o (о) meaning "about, around"; *ukrai and *ukraina would then mean "a separated land parcel , a separate part of a tribe's territory".

Name of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Silver Cat]

They built a nation. It is a separate and sovereign nation. Then Putin invaded that sovereign nation. It is Ukraine. Not “the” Ukraine.

Plus, even Wikipedia notes that your alleged definition of “Ukraine” is disputed.

Name of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The bunch of Nazies is not a "nation". And even they don't need "independent Ukraine". Some of them want to (actually, they are payed for) join the EU, some of them want to join Russia.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, the peace is possible after total annexation of the lands of former Ukraine by its neighbors.

Clearly, peace with Russia is simply not possible any more than peace with Hitler's Germany would have been possible.

 

[BackAgain]

The bunch of Nazies is not a "nation". And even they don't need "independent Ukraine". Some of them want to (actually, they are payed for) join the EU, some of them want to join Russia.

You are ignorant and in denial. Ukraine is an independent sovereign nation.

Ukraine was one of the founding members of the United Nations when it joined in 1945 as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic; along with the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Ukraine signed the United Nations Charter when it was part of the Soviet Union. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine retained its seat.

Ukraine and the United Nations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The supposed 'nazies' of Ukraine are fighting well for their Jewish president.

The Crimea bridge was fucked up again by the Ukies.

The struggle continues with Russia making no gain.

 

[Silver Cat]

Clearly, peace with Russia is simply not possible any more than peace with Hitler's Germany would have been possible.

Peace with Russia is impossible, and war against Russia is unwinnable yet. So, what is the only possible solution? Yes, it is - leave Ukraine (and, may be, the rest of Europe) and do what is really necessary for the safety of the USA, for example, build more and better strategic nuclear weapons, build more ships, make our Army and society stronger. In other words - Make America Great Again.

 

[Silver Cat]

You are ignorant and in denial. Ukraine is an independent sovereign nation.

Ukraine and the United Nations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

No. Right now Ukrainian economy is dead. And, right now, Ukraine is a remote-controlled zombie. What is worse it's a zombie, controlled by the incompetent fools.