Oh I count him. He's one of the GOAT. But I categorize him with the bigs.Yes I know but I only count from Magic & Bird moving forward and Robert Horry isn't in the conversation of being the GOAT.That was before my time. All I remember is Magic and Bird then MJ, and MJ was the most impressive athlete I have ever witnessed. He owned that sport the 6 years he was on top. I know I have forgotten all the seasons he didn't win but that's what we do for winners. No one will remember all the years Tim Duncan didn't win a championship. They will only remember the 5 years he did.Really, that's just 5 less than Bill Russell.I just don't want him catching mj's 6.
So I can only compare young stars today to Magic who has 5, Kobe who has 5, etc. And Jordan has 6. No one better than MJ has 6 rings. Except maybe Russell but I wasn't around back then so as far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen.
And first you have to catch MJ before you start talking about Russell. I don't think anyone will ever catch Russell EVER.
Russell has 11, Sam Jones has 10, KC Jones, Tom Snatch Sanders, John Havlicek and Tommy Heinsohn all have 8. All of them were Boston Celtics.
Robert Horry has 7 NBA titles to his name, with Los Angeles, San Antonio and Houston.
Jabbar has 6 titles.
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So when I judge guys like Lebron and Kobe, I judge them compared to what MJ did. Or Shaq or Duncan. I'm sure they would all love to catch up to Jordan's 6 titles.
And I'm sure Shaq or Duncan would like to catch Jabbar's 6 too.
Magic got all of his championships with Jabbar. How can you not count Jabbar?
Who do you think are the greatest bigs of all time? Duncan is a Power forward.
Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem Alajuwan, Dwight Howard, Luke Walton, Wilt Chamberland, etc.