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There was no misuse of state force. The state wasn't involved. No state officers were present.No - the cardinal rule has been broken.
The vigilante/individualist crowd is getting off on this (despite this being a brutal misuse of state force), but a deal is going to need to be made as I outlined.
But we’ll see; give it 6 months.
You’re looking at this from a very informed perspective, and I appreciate that.There will be no shitstorm. What do you think these protesters can do? Who do you think they can complain to? Where do you think they can file a law suit? What laws do you think will apply?
Holy shit ECB.There was no misuse of state force. The state wasn't involved. No state officers were present.
When it comes to land or people the tribes are relentless and remorseless. Their power is plenary, absolute.Believe me, I know. I am native American. We don't take kindly to asshole invaders.
One of us is.
I don't think so, you could clearly see the girl was on the right side on a very long chain and he hit the opposite side. She did have to hop a bit but no damage done.The something they did was incredibly reckless.
Okay. Just to be curious, what bigger picture do you think there is? Tribes don't care about tourism.You’re looking at this from a very informed perspective, and I appreciate that.
But there’s a much bigger picture, and that’s what I’m looking at.
But we’ll see; give it 6 months, and I’ll be happy to concede any erroneous speculation I may have expressed.
I won’t give back in kind in this one reply, tempted though I am.Yeah, you. You literally have no idea what you are talking about.
No. There was no state involvement at all. It would be like this happened in Mexico and you are thinking somehow California has an interest. Tribal land is literally a foreign country. It has its own laws. And those laws vary by tribe depending on treatys. The road is a state road by easement. The state doesn't own the land the road is on.Holy shit ECB.
State in the broad sense; surely you’re not going to play semantics with me?
It’s a bit complicated, and I generally don’t discuss complicated.Okay. Just to be curious, what bigger picture do you think there is?
That’s one water hole to be sure.Tribes don't care about tourism.
nope. American courts have no jurisdiction on the reservation and no tribal court is going to fault him.Yup.
This is a clusterfuck, and the violent cop will be the scapegoat for exposing this weird jusistdictional shit to the nation.
Hats off to the connies here for amplifying this so the cop can be dealt with.
Holy shit ECB.No. There was no state involvement at all. It would be like this happened in Mexico and you are thinking somehow California has an interest. Tribal land is literally a foreign country. It has its own laws. And those laws vary by tribe depending on treatys. The road is a state road by easement. The state doesn't own the land the road is on.
Bigger picture; time will tell.nope. American courts have no jurisdiction on the reservation and no tribal court is going to fault him.
I think that would be Tribal Nations or Reservations. I don't think they are designated as States because they are not officially part of the U.S.A.Holy shit ECB.
State as in tribal state, therefore state force.
Yeesh.
We’ll see, but not ultimately relevant.The public will not even have the names of the tribal officers.
There is no tribal state. Where are you getting this rather strange information from? There is no Paiute state, or Navajo State, or any other tribal state. These are sovereign lands, fully autonomous. State laws do not apply and there are no constitutional protections.Holy shit ECB.
State as in tribal state, therefore state force.
Yeesh.
States in the larger sense.I think that would be Tribal Nations or Reservations.
I don't think they are designated as States because they are not officially part of the U.S.A.
Holy shit.There is no tribal state. Where are you getting this rather strange information from? There is no Paiute state, or Navajo State, or any other tribal state. These are sovereign lands, fully autonomous. State laws do not apply and there are no constitutional protections.
