Never Forget! Ashli Babbit Died For Their Freedom To Trample On Our Right To Have Our Votes Count

[martybegan]

Nope, it wasn't to encourage others not to follow. It was they were going to shoot whoever breached that barricade. Fortunately, she was the only one stupid enough to try. Another person there said in an interview it could have been him had he gone through the broken out window.

that is the same thing, you just won't admit to it.

I'd have far more respect for you if you just admit you don't care they didn't follow deadly force rules than this pathetic attempt at doublethink.

 

[martybegan]

Not at all. She got shot because she presented an immediate threat by coming through the window.

There was nothing between her and the officers anymore. They broke the doors to come through. That was the last line of defense. The threat then became immediate.

She was not an immediate threat hanging halfway through a window yards away from the firing officer.

 

[Marener]

She was not an immediate threat hanging halfway through a window yards away from the firing officer.

Did I miss something that indicated she was incapable of walking a few yards?

 

[Faun]

By context you are trying to say "make an example of" without admitting to it.

You and Faun beating around the bush on this is fucking hilarious.

No, the context was a never before scene where a mob violently broke into the Capitol to stop the certification. Police were vastly outnumbered yet remained diligent to protect the lives of lawmakers & staff. It was insanely chaotic and that mob was violently breaking down the last barricaded door leading to members of Congress and staff.

What's hilarious is you pretending none of that was a factor.

 

[martybegan]

Did I miss something that indicated she was incapable of walking a few yards?

Not at the time she was in the window. It requires an immediate threat, not a threat later on.

If she stood up and then lunged at him you would then have a case.

 

[martybegan]

No, the context was a never before scene where a mob violently broke into the Capitol to stop the certification. Police were vastly outnumbered yet remained diligent to protect the lives of lawmakers & staff. It was insanely chaotic and that mob was violently breaking down the last barricaded door leading to members of Congress and staff.

What's hilarious is you pretending none of that was a factor.

Then why was he THE ONLY ONE WHO OPENED FIRE YOU FUCKING IDIOT?

 

[Faun]

They didn't do a thorough one or an actual one.

You don't know that. A shame you surrender your position so easily by lying to prop it up.

 

[Marener]

Not at the time she was in the window. It requires an immediate threat, not a threat later on.

If she stood up and then lunged at him you would then have a case.

How long would it have taken her to reach Byrd?

Seconds.

Are you claiming that these mere seconds does not constitute immediate threat?

 

[Faun]

Which departments?

Or are you just making shit up now?

U.S. Capitol Police and the Department of Justice.

 

[martybegan]

You don't know that. A shame you surrender your position so easily by lying to prop it up.

Hard to see when it wasn't done in the open and in public, with no trial or even an indictment.

"It sucks you couldn't see the whole thing because we hid it"

 

[martybegan]

How long would it have taken her to reach Byrd?

Seconds.

Are you claiming that these mere seconds does not constitute immediate threat?

How many slugs could he have popped in her in those seconds.

She had to get through the window, stand up, see him, then decide to charge an armed man pointing a gun at her.

 

[Faun]

that is the same thing, you just won't admit to it.

I'd have far more respect for you if you just admit you don't care they didn't follow deadly force rules than this pathetic attempt at doublethink.

Nope, it's not the same thing. Had others breached that barricade, they would have met the same fate.

 

[martybegan]

U.S. Capitol Police and the Department of Justice.

So one department the guy was a part of, and a DOJ already on record as a bunch of partisan hacks.

LOL

 

[martybegan]

Nope, it's not the same thing. Had others breached that barricade, they would have met the same fate.

She didn't breach it, she was on it.

 

[Faun]

She was not an immediate threat hanging halfway through a window yards away from the firing officer.

She wasn't hanging. She was coming through. You trying to make it sound like she was just hanging around and not trying to get through the window is absurd.

 

[Marener]

How many slugs could he have popped in her in those seconds.

She had to get through the window, stand up, see him, then decide to charge an armed man pointing a gun at her.

She was already halfway through the window. It would have taken no more than a few seconds.

You are so deranged you don’t think a few seconds is considered an immediate threat.

This is the most idiotic thing you’ve said in a long time.

 

[Faun]

Then why was he THE ONLY ONE WHO OPENED FIRE YOU FUCKING IDIOT?

There were only two officers in position to shoot. Byrd and another officer further down in the Speaker's Lobby. The other officer didn't have a clear shot because from his angle, he could have it someone else had he missed. Byrd was the only officer there with a clear shot and the perfect angle.

 

[Faun]

Hard to see when it wasn't done in the open and in public, with no trial or even an indictment.

"It sucks you couldn't see the whole thing because we hid it"

Why would there be a trial or an indictment for a justifiable shoot??

 

[Faun]

So one department the guy was a part of, and a DOJ already on record as a bunch of partisan hacks.

LOL

Cry harder, Marty. Your tears evaporate before they hit the ground.

 

[martybegan]

She wasn't hanging. She was coming through. You trying to make it sound like she was just hanging around and not trying to get through the window is absurd.

She was in the window, less than halfway through, as evidenced by her falling into the room she was in previously.