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[Indeependent]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Trump is not a Republican and he has been great for middle class Americans and you're full of shit.

 

[dblack]

Nothing fake libertarians hate worse than when someone points out that they're supporting a corporatist authoritarian.

It's either him for the senile pedophile. Pick a side.

No. That's idiotic. Voting for either is lunacy. I can't stop the rest of you, but I won't join you in pissing away freedom.

So you frown down upon anyone who does not share your point of view?

I'm this case, I sure do. You all are throwing away a good thing. You'll get what you deserve. But, unfortunately, I'll get what you deserve as well. And that pisses me off.

What are we throwing away?

The Constitution, free trade, rule of law, civil society. Etc, etc

That's already gone.

That's a copout, and a weak excuse for voting for a douchebag.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

 

[sealybobo]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Fuck that, i had a liberal coworker who decided that he didnt want to save any leave because one of the guys in our shop, died with over 1000 hours of sick and annual leave. The prog used up his leave as soon as he got it, i asked him what would happen if he got sick and needed time to recover, and he said he would ask others to donate their leave if it ever happened. I told that sick fuck, dont bother to ask me, and he said i was greedy. Can you believe that? He said i was greedy for not sharing my leave.. 6 months later he got sick and had been out of work for 2 years. Karma is a bitch..


If you dont save for the future you can be a dumpster diver for all i care, you spent it, you can starve...

I don’t know anyone who would ask someone for their sick or vacation days. That’s ridiculous. You work with an idiot not a democrat.

 

[Indeependent]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

SB is hooked on Dark Meat.

 

[sealybobo]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

Yes well regulate capitalism is great. But we also have public schools, social security and Medicare. Those things are socialist things.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

Yes well regulate capitalism is great. But we also have public schools, social security and Medicare. Those things are socialist things.

So what?

 

[bripat9643]

Nothing fake libertarians hate worse than when someone points out that they're supporting a corporatist authoritarian.

It's either him for the senile pedophile. Pick a side.

No. That's idiotic. Voting for either is lunacy. I can't stop the rest of you, but I won't join you in pissing away freedom.

So you frown down upon anyone who does not share your point of view?

I'm this case, I sure do. You all are throwing away a good thing. You'll get what you deserve. But, unfortunately, I'll get what you deserve as well. And that pisses me off.

What are we throwing away?

The Constitution, free trade, rule of law, civil society. Etc, etc

That's already gone.

That's a copout, and a weak excuse for voting for a douchebag.

Your alternative is voting for someone who can't possibly win. That's pure idiocy.

 

[bripat9643]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

Yes well regulate capitalism is great. But we also have public schools, social security and Medicare. Those things are socialist things.

True, and they all suck.

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Well I actually have plenty of money but I’m going to need social security in order to not touch my life savings. I’ll live off the interest plus social security. You want to chip away and what’s coming to us. That may not be a tax increase but it’s taking money out of all our pockets to fund the tax breaks that went to social security.

51% of Americans have zero savings. Now that Americans are going to have to rely on social security more than ever before, you want to make cuts?

This is why blue collar are idiots for voting for trump.

Youre rich enough to not mind cuts to your social security, I’m not. And blue collar should know what you’re planning to do to them.

Thats when you’ll go back to lying and say you don’t really want to cut those programs, you crafty liar

You really are a terrible writer, but I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

Sure, you're on message boards all day begging for government handouts, but you don't need the money. Yeah, right

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

Trumps 2nd term plan is to starve social security. Wake up

Wow, you're not just a mind reader but an Oracle. That's so cool.

Do you read palms too?

Everything Radical republicans have said they wanted to do have all come true.

Why did you republicans say for the last 30 years, “don’t expect ss to be there?” What did you mean by that if not the obvious?

And bush tried to cut social security. It wasn’t the right time. But a trump 2nd term would be the perfect time

SS is a terrible program and the math doesn't work. That's just recognizing reality. It's another failed welfare program

Nope. Politicians on both sides raided the fund but thanks for being honest about your plans for those programs

I like how you said "nope" then said you agreed with what I said, LOL.

There are no funds. Not since the 60s. It's a welfare program. No money is saved, so there is no trust fund. Like every other welfare program, the money is taken by force from today's taxpayers.

You're welcome, but it's not hard to admit I'm against government redistribution of wealth. Particularly at the Federal level it should not happen

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

Trumps 2nd term plan is to starve social security. Wake up

Wow, you're not just a mind reader but an Oracle. That's so cool.

Do you read palms too?

If not during a trump 2nd term what better time would there be to cut Medicare and Social Security? Two programs you republicans hate and call socialism. Don’t deny it liar. Own it

Of course they are socialism, but you're an idiot.

- I'm a libertarian, not a Republican
- Libertarians want to end those programs
- Republicans don't

You're low informed and confused. Not that I expect anything different who'd self selected representation of yourself, your avatar, is someone you hate. I never grasp why anyone would do that. Only leftists define yourself by who you hate. It's what you are

Republicans want to end them too, liar.

Bull shit. It's one of the things I argue with Republicans on all the time. They do not. You're just pulling it out of your ass like everything else. You're the liar

 

[sealybobo]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Well I actually have plenty of money but I’m going to need social security in order to not touch my life savings. I’ll live off the interest plus social security. You want to chip away and what’s coming to us. That may not be a tax increase but it’s taking money out of all our pockets to fund the tax breaks that went to social security.

51% of Americans have zero savings. Now that Americans are going to have to rely on social security more than ever before, you want to make cuts?

This is why blue collar are idiots for voting for trump.

Youre rich enough to not mind cuts to your social security, I’m not. And blue collar should know what you’re planning to do to them.

Thats when you’ll go back to lying and say you don’t really want to cut those programs, you crafty liar

You really are a terrible writer, but I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

Sure, you're on message boards all day begging for government handouts, but you don't need the money. Yeah, right

I make very close to 6 figures you idiot. Actually I make more if you include my unde4 the table side gig, but whatever.

And I’m not here all day. I take breaks. I work from home so I can do what I want as long as I produce sales, which I do.

But my sales are down because of trump. In 2019 trumps trade war with China hurt sales and this year his response to the pandemic has prolonged or delayed the recovery.

He is a failure and evil man. His sister and a million others have told you he’s unsuited to be potus.

Hell, even Former republican governor Rick Snyder, a total cock sucker with ties to the devos family has endorsed biden.

I know, he’s a deep state globalist. They all are. Anyone who doesn’t like trump is a rino. Lol Or socialist.

He is a corporatist but so is trump.

 

[sealybobo]

Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.

I like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.

The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.

So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....

Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOL

I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.

I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....

I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.

Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.

Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.

Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.

I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.

When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.

What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?

How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?

Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?

Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.

Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.

I’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.

Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?

If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.

If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for you

You are inferring that Democrats working to keep people poor is a good thing.

That’s what you inferred from that? I thought I was suggesting that republicans are all about trickle down which doesn’t work. Never has.

The last time America was great was 1999. Ford had record profits that year and ford employees got record profit sharing. Then bush stole 2000 and sent all those union jobs overseas to kill unions.

Who don’t forget, got ford record profits in 1999. but you republicans waged war on American workers in the 2000s. Sent all those jobs bye bye. Now you’ll bring them back for $15 hr.

The difference between us is that you actually think the Democrats care about anybody.

And you believe trump. just like a lot of Russians like Putin. Who’s better than Putin right?

I am results oriented.
Just like at work, all I look at is the effort and achievement.
I don't know one salesperson who hates Trump or thinks Trump has ruined the economy.

Well I saw manufacturing flee under Bush’s watch and trumps trade war with China cost me money last year and his leadership has mad3 the pandemic worse and last month I sold $85k when before I was selling $150k a month.

I don’t want to hear excuses. Republicans are no good for middle class Americans.

Capitalism is good for everyone.
If the rich dont make money no one does.

Yes properly regulated capitalism is good but unregulated or improperly regulated capitalism where the corporations decide the regulations is just another ism.

 

[sealybobo]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

Trumps 2nd term plan is to starve social security. Wake up

Wow, you're not just a mind reader but an Oracle. That's so cool.

Do you read palms too?

Everything Radical republicans have said they wanted to do have all come true.

Why did you republicans say for the last 30 years, “don’t expect ss to be there?” What did you mean by that if not the obvious?

And bush tried to cut social security. It wasn’t the right time. But a trump 2nd term would be the perfect time

SS is a terrible program and the math doesn't work. That's just recognizing reality. It's another failed welfare program

Nope. Politicians on both sides raided the fund but thanks for being honest about your plans for those programs

I like how you said "nope" then said you agreed with what I said, LOL.

There are no funds. Not since the 60s. It's a welfare program. No money is saved, so there is no trust fund. Like every other welfare program, the money is taken by force from today's taxpayers.

You're welcome, but it's not hard to admit I'm against government redistribution of wealth. Particularly at the Federal level it should not happen

We all pay into it stupid. Just because the government robs from it doesn’t mean it’s welfare.

I paid into it!

And what about all the people who pay into social security for 50 years then die before they ever collect one penny?

Social security is a great program and the generation after mine is going to need it more than we do. Parents leaving their kids less each generation. Higher college costs so they won’t be saving for retirement till their studen pt loans are paid off. Most people don’t make as much today when you factor innflation in. This is why over 50% of Americans will never save for retirement. One of you said “so”? Well we already had that conversation and that’s why social security was invented and it’s a very popular program.

This is why republicans should never be in charge. They pass unpopular legislation. They sneak it in. They never run on those issues but they sneak them in and the public doesn’t like what they’re doing but who’s really paying attention. Then you claim the media who sits silent is liberal? What a joke. The media hasn’t been liberal since the 1996 telecommunications act. They only use gays, guns, racism and god to divide us, the masses.

 

[sealybobo]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

Trumps 2nd term plan is to starve social security. Wake up

Wow, you're not just a mind reader but an Oracle. That's so cool.

Do you read palms too?

If not during a trump 2nd term what better time would there be to cut Medicare and Social Security? Two programs you republicans hate and call socialism. Don’t deny it liar. Own it

Of course they are socialism, but you're an idiot.

- I'm a libertarian, not a Republican
- Libertarians want to end those programs
- Republicans don't

You're low informed and confused. Not that I expect anything different who'd self selected representation of yourself, your avatar, is someone you hate. I never grasp why anyone would do that. Only leftists define yourself by who you hate. It's what you are

Republicans want to end them too, liar.

Bull shit. It's one of the things I argue with Republicans on all the time. They do not. You're just pulling it out of your ass like everything else. You're the liar

Either you’re an idiot or liar. I say the first.

Just listen to usmb republicans. It’s welfare. A bad program. Socialism. Entitlement. Etc. you don’t think they want to kill it?

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Well I actually have plenty of money but I’m going to need social security in order to not touch my life savings. I’ll live off the interest plus social security. You want to chip away and what’s coming to us. That may not be a tax increase but it’s taking money out of all our pockets to fund the tax breaks that went to social security.

51% of Americans have zero savings. Now that Americans are going to have to rely on social security more than ever before, you want to make cuts?

This is why blue collar are idiots for voting for trump.

Youre rich enough to not mind cuts to your social security, I’m not. And blue collar should know what you’re planning to do to them.

Thats when you’ll go back to lying and say you don’t really want to cut those programs, you crafty liar

You really are a terrible writer, but I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

Sure, you're on message boards all day begging for government handouts, but you don't need the money. Yeah, right

I make very close to 6 figures you idiot. Actually I make more if you include my unde4 the table side gig, but whatever.

And I’m not here all day. I take breaks. I work from home so I can do what I want as long as I produce sales, which I do.

But my sales are down because of trump. In 2019 trumps trade war with China hurt sales and this year his response to the pandemic has prolonged or delayed the recovery.

He is a failure and evil man. His sister and a million others have told you he’s unsuited to be potus.

Hell, even Former republican governor Rick Snyder, a total cock sucker with ties to the devos family has endorsed biden.

I know, he’s a deep state globalist. They all are. Anyone who doesn’t like trump is a rino. Lol Or socialist.

He is a corporatist but so is trump.

People who have money don't spend all day on message boards begging for money

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

Trumps 2nd term plan is to starve social security. Wake up

Wow, you're not just a mind reader but an Oracle. That's so cool.

Do you read palms too?

Everything Radical republicans have said they wanted to do have all come true.

Why did you republicans say for the last 30 years, “don’t expect ss to be there?” What did you mean by that if not the obvious?

And bush tried to cut social security. It wasn’t the right time. But a trump 2nd term would be the perfect time

SS is a terrible program and the math doesn't work. That's just recognizing reality. It's another failed welfare program

Nope. Politicians on both sides raided the fund but thanks for being honest about your plans for those programs

I like how you said "nope" then said you agreed with what I said, LOL.

There are no funds. Not since the 60s. It's a welfare program. No money is saved, so there is no trust fund. Like every other welfare program, the money is taken by force from today's taxpayers.

You're welcome, but it's not hard to admit I'm against government redistribution of wealth. Particularly at the Federal level it should not happen

We all pay into it stupid. Just because the government robs from it doesn’t mean it’s welfare.

I paid into it!

And what about all the people who pay into social security for 50 years then die before they ever collect one penny?

Social security is a great program and the generation after mine is going to need it more than we do. Parents leaving their kids less each generation. Higher college costs so they won’t be saving for retirement till their studen pt loans are paid off. Most people don’t make as much today when you factor innflation in. This is why over 50% of Americans will never save for retirement. One of you said “so”? Well we already had that conversation and that’s why social security was invented and it’s a very popular program.

This is why republicans should never be in charge. They pass unpopular legislation. They sneak it in. They never run on those issues but they sneak them in and the public doesn’t like what they’re doing but who’s really paying attention. Then you claim the media who sits silent is liberal? What a joke. The media hasn’t been liberal since the 1996 telecommunications act. They only use gays, guns, racism and god to divide us, the masses.

My God you know nothing about finance. You don't "pay into it" when NOTHING IS SAVED.

You simply paid taxes and it was spent as it came in, LIKE THE REST OF YOUR TAXES.

How does someone of your advanced years know so little about money?

 

[sealybobo]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Well I actually have plenty of money but I’m going to need social security in order to not touch my life savings. I’ll live off the interest plus social security. You want to chip away and what’s coming to us. That may not be a tax increase but it’s taking money out of all our pockets to fund the tax breaks that went to social security.

51% of Americans have zero savings. Now that Americans are going to have to rely on social security more than ever before, you want to make cuts?

This is why blue collar are idiots for voting for trump.

Youre rich enough to not mind cuts to your social security, I’m not. And blue collar should know what you’re planning to do to them.

Thats when you’ll go back to lying and say you don’t really want to cut those programs, you crafty liar

You really are a terrible writer, but I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

Sure, you're on message boards all day begging for government handouts, but you don't need the money. Yeah, right

I make very close to 6 figures you idiot. Actually I make more if you include my unde4 the table side gig, but whatever.

And I’m not here all day. I take breaks. I work from home so I can do what I want as long as I produce sales, which I do.

But my sales are down because of trump. In 2019 trumps trade war with China hurt sales and this year his response to the pandemic has prolonged or delayed the recovery.

He is a failure and evil man. His sister and a million others have told you he’s unsuited to be potus.

Hell, even Former republican governor Rick Snyder, a total cock sucker with ties to the devos family has endorsed biden.

I know, he’s a deep state globalist. They all are. Anyone who doesn’t like trump is a rino. Lol Or socialist.

He is a corporatist but so is trump.

People who have money don't spend all day on message boards begging for money

I’m not begging for money stupid. What are you doing here then?

 

[kaz]

Ask any republican Here. Don’t expect it to be there They’ll tell you. Trump suggested cuts didn’t he? I know bush did.

He’s maybe the only one to get away with it in a second term. Now you’re saying the programs fine? Most republicans wouldn’t admit it out loud. Wake up

So you can't name anyone who has said they want to do away with SS? Color me shocked!
Wow! That's a surprise.

The program isn't fine. No one said that so stop with the disingenuous lies.

It needs reform, like the sort George Bush suggested before he was shouted down. Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future

It was a voluntary program based on a Chilean model and each tax payer in the program managed their
own retirement investments, etc.
I haven't heard Trump say he would terminate SS so stop lying.

Fact check: Harris falsely says Trump promised to gut Social Security, Medicare

A couple of days before she became Joe Biden's running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., jabbed President Donald Trump for threatening two pillars of America's social safety net.

www.wral.com

How does it feel to be so full of shit?

So you’d accept a 20% cut?

I named two. Bush and trump.

Never happened. You're lying ... again ...

If no changes are made social security will Only be able to pay 80% starting in 2035. You think republicans are going to solve that? I think they love the cut they must make and I think us Americans will bend over and take it. I’m hoping I can retire in 12 years and be grandfathered in.

Last time you said they were going to starve it. Now you say they won't grow it. Let me know when you pick a position.

Social Security should be eliminated and replaced with a welfare program for people like you who didn't save for retirement

Well I actually have plenty of money but I’m going to need social security in order to not touch my life savings. I’ll live off the interest plus social security. You want to chip away and what’s coming to us. That may not be a tax increase but it’s taking money out of all our pockets to fund the tax breaks that went to social security.

51% of Americans have zero savings. Now that Americans are going to have to rely on social security more than ever before, you want to make cuts?

This is why blue collar are idiots for voting for trump.

Youre rich enough to not mind cuts to your social security, I’m not. And blue collar should know what you’re planning to do to them.

Thats when you’ll go back to lying and say you don’t really want to cut those programs, you crafty liar

You really are a terrible writer, but I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

Sure, you're on message boards all day begging for government handouts, but you don't need the money. Yeah, right

I make very close to 6 figures you idiot. Actually I make more if you include my unde4 the table side gig, but whatever.

And I’m not here all day. I take breaks. I work from home so I can do what I want as long as I produce sales, which I do.

But my sales are down because of trump. In 2019 trumps trade war with China hurt sales and this year his response to the pandemic has prolonged or delayed the recovery.

He is a failure and evil man. His sister and a million others have told you he’s unsuited to be potus.

Hell, even Former republican governor Rick Snyder, a total cock sucker with ties to the devos family has endorsed biden.

I know, he’s a deep state globalist. They all are. Anyone who doesn’t like trump is a rino. Lol Or socialist.

He is a corporatist but so is trump.

People who have money don't spend all day on message boards begging for money

I’m not begging for money stupid. What are you doing here then?

Of course you're begging for money. Have you read your SS posts where you want government to rob your children at gunpoint and send you a check because you didn't bother actually saving the money coming in from SS?

Then there's your endless grovelling for Democrats to redistribute money.

Face it. You're into free government cheese in a big way