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according to the video he had several seconds to change directions again,,,but as we see he chose to attack instead of any rational option,,,
According tho the police report, by McMichaels own admission, the jogger had already tried to go the opposite way.
Also in the police report, and also by McMichaels own admission, they continued the hunt.
Runing away didn't work. And the men demonstrated that they were committed to the hunt.
When a man is being hunted by men with guns and running away doesn't work, he's left with two choices.
Either keep running, knowing it didn't work the first time, or you fight for your life and you try to kill the motherfucker who's hunting you.
The person who confronts you, and happens to have a gun at the time, has a perfect legal RIGHT to have that gun with him. And just because he has it, doesn't mean he is threatening you with it, and you have your right to not stop (as you said), and you may walk away (as Arbery should have done).. I know that I will not stop for anyone who confronts me with a gun without fighting for my life. DON'T STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING ROAD WITH A GUN. Got it?
your right arbry didnt have a right to attack them,,,The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.both partys did,,Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,how do you know they were???How do you know that they were not planning to hang himif he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,attempting is not the same as doing it,,,
They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew
Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.
sounds like bad parenting to me
Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.
That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.
Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.
Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.
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It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,
Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.
Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.
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And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?
I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?
A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.
its just his decision to attack ended with his death when running away wouldnt have,,,
to bad he didnt call the cops himself or run into a front yard of a house and yell for the police to be called,,,
You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.
No one can run away from a pickup retardaccording to the video he had several seconds to change directions again,,,but as we see he chose to attack instead of any rational option,,,
According tho the police report, by McMichaels own admission, the jogger had already tried to go the opposite way.
Also in the police report, and also by McMichaels own admission, they continued the hunt.
Runing away didn't work. And the men demonstrated that they were committed to the hunt.
When a man is being hunted by men with guns and running away doesn't work, he's left with two choices.
Either keep running, knowing it didn't work the first time, or you fight for your life and you try to kill the motherfucker who's hunting you.
BULLSHIT,,,running away always works,,,and you can see in the video he had a lot of options to run to that didnt include confrontation,,,
I also pulled up the area on google maps and have a lot of questions as to why he was even in that area,, and he had all kinds of places to run and hide and wait for the cops to get there after he called them,,,
Arbery had a right to self defense.your right arbry didnt have a right to attack them,,,The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.both partys did,,Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,how do you know they were???How do you know that they were not planning to hang himif he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,attempting is not the same as doing it,,,
They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew
Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.
sounds like bad parenting to me
Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.
That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.
Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.
Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.
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It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,
Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.
Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.
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And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?
I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?
A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.
its just his decision to attack ended with his death when running away wouldnt have,,,
to bad he didnt call the cops himself or run into a front yard of a house and yell for the police to be called,,,
You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.
BULLSHIT,,,running away always works
The fact that the McMichaels chased Arbery, doesn't mean they caused Arbery to be shot. Only one person caused Arbery to be shot, and that is Arbery.The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.
You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.
McMichael had a right to self-defense. Nothing in the video or police report indicates that Arbery needed to act in self-defense.Arbery had a right to self defense.
Yeah. So ?Well, that doesn't appear to be the case, if we go by McMichael's statements to police in the police report.
He ran the opposite direction.
They followed.
He died.
Really? Three people chasing you with guns doesn’t make someone fear for their life?McMichael had a right to self-defense. Nothing in the video or police report indicates that Arbery needed to act in self-defense.Arbery had a right to self defense.
So did McMichael. That's why we have a dead thug.Arbery had a right to self defense.your right arbry didnt have a right to attack them,,,The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.both partys did,,Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,how do you know they were???How do you know that they were not planning to hang himif he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,attempting is not the same as doing it,,,
They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew
Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.
sounds like bad parenting to me
Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.
That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.
Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.
Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.
DocumentCloud
It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,
Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.
Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.
View attachment 333996
And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?
I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?
A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.
its just his decision to attack ended with his death when running away wouldnt have,,,
to bad he didnt call the cops himself or run into a front yard of a house and yell for the police to be called,,,
You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.
We have freedom of speech Pal deal with itThey didn't "follow" the the jogger. They cut in front of him and stopped, with a guy following from behind, with whom they must have been in communication. No one had the right the confront the jogger, only to report to the police if they found anything questionable.
Was there a restraining order. Do you have any idea of what you're talking about?They had no legal right to follow
The fact that the McMichaels chased Arbery, doesn't mean they caused Arbery to be shot. Only one person caused Arbery to be shot, and that is Arbery.The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.
You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.
And yes >> "You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves." Which is why Arbery did not have a right to attack McMichael. .
Since the McMichaels guns were inside their truck, it's doubtful that Arbery even knew they were there, while he was being chased. And even if he knew, there's no reason to think that the McMichaels were going to shoot him.Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.
A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.
Nothing in the video or police report indicates that Arbery needed to act in self-defense.
FALSE! They had a perfect legal right to follow. Show a statute saying they didn't.They had no legal right to follow
Since the McMichaels guns were inside their truck, it's doubtful that Arbery even knew they were there, while he was being chased. And even if he knew, there's no reason to think that the McMichaels were going to shoot him.Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.
A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.
Lots of people know I have a gun in my pocket. They don't feel threatened by it. In fact, many feel comforted by it.
