New development in the shooting case of the black georgia jogger

[colfax_m]

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

Listen to YOURself.
He could have submitted to questions (as I submitted to questions when somebody asked me what time it is, or if a store is open).

Or he could have just walked away.

Next time three armed men are chasing you down, I’m sure you’ll stop and politely ask them what you can do for them. Sure.

 

[progressive hunter]

you got a link for that claim???

The police report...

Ahmaud Arbery Police Report | PDF | Law Enforcement | Crime & Violence

Ahmaud Arbery Police Report

www.scribd.com

thank you I hadnt seen that yet,,
but it doesnt look good for arbry if thats all true,,,

he should have stopped out where he was visible to everyone and waited for the police to clear things up instead of attacking him,,,

it didnt say if arbry had a phone on him, if so he should have called the cops himself,,,

Arbery was trying to get away from armed men pursuing him. When that failed, he defended himself. It demonstrated Arbery’s intent to avoid a conflict.

not according to the video,,,

You need to do more than read the video. Read the police statements too. It’s been provided to you numerous times. There’s more to this than a 90 second video.

according to the video he had 359 options to get away,,,instead he chose to attack,,,

if I were still as fit as him those rednecks would only see my dust,,,

They were in vehicles. You think you can outrun three guys in two trucks with guns?

Arbery tried to get away several times before they got out of the truck brandishing firearms. Despite attempting to evade them, McMichael escalated and perpetuated the confrontation.

If Arbery just wanted to attack them, he would not have attempted to run away from them several times by the time they reached the final confrontation.

of course i could cause a truck is limited to the roads and large open areas,,,all I have to do is avoid those areas,,
and besides if I wasnt guilty of something I wouldnt run to start with

If you weren’t guilty? What does that have to do with anything?

These aren’t cops. They’re a couple of dudes in trucks with guns. If people are chasing me with guns, my first assumption is they’re not peaceful or friendly. I’d assume they’re out to hurt me.

and they had several chances to do that prior to the confrontation,,,

 

[Mac-7]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

That raises an interesting question

did the jogger call 911 ?

 

[colfax_m]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

 

[Mac-7]

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

Listen to YOURself.
He could have submitted to questions (as I submitted to questions when somebody asked me what time it is, or if a store is open).

Or he could have just walked away.

Next time three armed men are chasing you down, I’m sure you’ll stop and politely ask them what you can do for them. Sure.

I will not give them an excuse to shoot me

call 911 and wait for the cops to arrive

 

[colfax_m]

you got a link for that claim???

The police report...

Ahmaud Arbery Police Report | PDF | Law Enforcement | Crime & Violence

Ahmaud Arbery Police Report

www.scribd.com

thank you I hadnt seen that yet,,
but it doesnt look good for arbry if thats all true,,,

he should have stopped out where he was visible to everyone and waited for the police to clear things up instead of attacking him,,,

it didnt say if arbry had a phone on him, if so he should have called the cops himself,,,

Arbery was trying to get away from armed men pursuing him. When that failed, he defended himself. It demonstrated Arbery’s intent to avoid a conflict.

not according to the video,,,

You need to do more than read the video. Read the police statements too. It’s been provided to you numerous times. There’s more to this than a 90 second video.

according to the video he had 359 options to get away,,,instead he chose to attack,,,

if I were still as fit as him those rednecks would only see my dust,,,

They were in vehicles. You think you can outrun three guys in two trucks with guns?

Arbery tried to get away several times before they got out of the truck brandishing firearms. Despite attempting to evade them, McMichael escalated and perpetuated the confrontation.

If Arbery just wanted to attack them, he would not have attempted to run away from them several times by the time they reached the final confrontation.

of course i could cause a truck is limited to the roads and large open areas,,,all I have to do is avoid those areas,,
and besides if I wasnt guilty of something I wouldnt run to start with

If you weren’t guilty? What does that have to do with anything?

These aren’t cops. They’re a couple of dudes in trucks with guns. If people are chasing me with guns, my first assumption is they’re not peaceful or friendly. I’d assume they’re out to hurt me.

and they had several chances to do that prior to the confrontation,,,

And apparently they wanted more chances since they would not stop pursuing him and attempting to stop him.

 

[Mac-7]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

Attacking a man with a shotgun was stupid

 

[colfax_m]

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

Listen to YOURself.
He could have submitted to questions (as I submitted to questions when somebody asked me what time it is, or if a store is open).

Or he could have just walked away.

Next time three armed men are chasing you down, I’m sure you’ll stop and politely ask them what you can do for them. Sure.

I will not give them an excuse to shoot me

call 911 and wait for the cops to arrive

Why would you assume they needed an excuse?

 

[colfax_m]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

Attacking a man with a shotgun was stupid

Chasing after Arbery with a shotgun is far more stupid.

 

[progressive hunter]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

both partys did,,

its just his decision to attack ended with his death when running away wouldnt have,,,

to bad he didnt call the cops himself or run into a front yard of a house and yell for the police to be called,,,

 

[Lysistrata]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

"Let them do their thing"? Is this what you require of Americans when confronted by anybody who presents an aggressive stance out in public? Is this your rule? So you will let someone "do their thing" if YOU are confronted with someone with a gun? This American Arbery was not allowed by these thugs to just ignore them and go on his way. I know that I will not stop for anyone who confronts me with a gun without fighting for my life. DON'T STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING ROAD WITH A GUN. Got it?

 

[protectionist]

Despite attempting to evade them, McMichael escalated and perpetuated the confrontation.

If Arbery just wanted to attack them, he would not have attempted to run away from them several times by the time they reached the final confrontation.

There is nothing wrong with McMicheal escalating and perpetuating the confrontation. He had to do that, because of Arbery's evasiveness. Actually, it was Arbery who escalated and perpetuated the confrontation, by running, instead of just talking to these guys.

Probably the reason he was running, instead of talking is because HE IS the guy who had been burglarizing houses, and the McMichaels guys were justified in chasing him. Instead of the cops arresting them, the cops should have said THANK YOU to them.

Whether Arbery wanted to attack or not, is irrelevant. What matters is, that is what he did.

 

[progressive hunter]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

That raises an interesting question

did the jogger call 911 ?

if I was being followed by guys with guns my first reaction would be to call the cops,,or find a house and ask them to and stay in clear view of as many people as possible and wait for them,,,

 

[Mac-7]

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

Listen to YOURself.
He could have submitted to questions (as I submitted to questions when somebody asked me what time it is, or if a store is open).

Or he could have just walked away.

Next time three armed men are chasing you down, I’m sure you’ll stop and politely ask them what you can do for them. Sure.

I will not give them an excuse to shoot me

call 911 and wait for the cops to arrive

Why would you assume they needed an excuse?

What have you got to lose by responding to the situation intelligently?

 

[progressive hunter]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

"Let them do their thing"? Is this what you require of Americans when confronted by anybody who presents an aggressive stance out in public? Is this your rule? So you will let someone "do their thing" if YOU are confronted with someone with a gun? This American Arbery was not allowed by these thugs to just ignore them and go on his way. I know that I will not stop for anyone who confronts me with a gun without fighting for my life. DON'T STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING ROAD WITH A GUN. Got it?

thats all better than what happened,,,

 

[Natural Citizen]

according to the video he had several seconds to change directions again,,,but as we see he chose to attack instead of any rational option,,,

According to the police report, by McMichael's own admission, the jogger had already tried to go the opposite way.

Also in the police report, and also by McMichael's own admission, they continued the hunt.

Running away didn't work. And the men demonstrated that they were committed to the hunt.

When a man is being hunted by men with guns and running away doesn't work, he's left with two choices.

Either keep running, knowing it didn't work the first time, or you fight for your life and you try to kill the motherfucker who's hunting you.

 

[Mac-7]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

Attacking a man with a shotgun was stupid

Chasing after Arbery with a shotgun is far more stupid.

It aint smart

if he had remained in the truck and just followed the jogger he would be much better off today

 

[esalla]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

"Let them do their thing"? Is this what you require of Americans when confronted by anybody who presents an aggressive stance out in public? Is this your rule? So you will let someone "do their thing" if YOU are confronted with someone with a gun? This American Arbery was not allowed by these thugs to just ignore them and go on his way. I know that I will not stop for anyone who confronts me with a gun without fighting for my life. DON'T STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING ROAD WITH A GUN. Got it?

God bless you, fight ignorance until death with truth

 

[esalla]

according to the video he had several seconds to change directions again,,,but as we see he chose to attack instead of any rational option,,,

According tho the police report, by McMichaels own admission, the jogger had already tried to go the opposite way.

Also in the police report, and also by McMichaels own admission, they continued the hunt.

Runing away didn't work. And the men demonstrated that they were committed to the hunt.

When a man is being hunted by men with guns and running away doesn't work, he's left with two choices.

Either keep running, knowing it didn't work the first time, or you fight for your life and you try to kill the motherfucker who's hunting you.

Fight ignorance with truth and honesty................................Always

 

[colfax_m]

attempting is not the same as doing it,,,

They did detain him, the told him to stop with the threat of deadly force and had a shotgun, a handgun and a pickup truck for use as weapons to enforce their white ass commands. They coulda had a rope in the back of the truck for all he knew

Ahmaud had no way of knowing why he was being violently threatened and ordered to comply. These were not police officers giving the command.

if he only complied he would be here today to file a complaint against them,,,,instead he tried to fight them,,,,

sounds like bad parenting to me

How do you know that they were not planning to hang him

how do you know they were???

Well, exactly. Ahmaud Abery had no idea what these two guys chasing him while brandishing guns were capable of. They clearly weren't going to let him out of the neighborhood since they were illegally attempting a citizens arrest. Their actions put Ahmaud in a defensive position. Remember, to him they are two strangers chasing him with guns. I'm sure it was nothing short of a nightmare for him.

so he should have sat down so he posed no threat and called the cops,,,not attack them when it was clear he was out gunned,,,

That's irrelevant. The two white guys had no right to chase and detain him. That's where the real issue is. Who knows what they said to him as he tries to avoid them by running around the right side of the truck. Why does Travis move the front of the truck to meet him? What is clear by their own lawyers admission is they were attempting to apprehend him in a citizens arrest. Based on Georgia law it was an illegal citizens arrest. At the point Ahmaud can sit down, but if he feels his life is in danger he can defend himself.

they have every right to follow who ever they want,,,and they never detained him,,,so stop lying,,,

Exadtly right.....no evidence that any arrest was made nor was there any attempt to make an arrest.

Some try to muddy the waters claiming they were attempting to make an illegal citizens arrest...but there is no evidence of such an attempt being made....even though I think they were entitled to do that....for whatever reason they did not do that....the black guy had a open road in front of him....he should have just kept jogging down that road....there was nothing to stop him....as in no one was trying to stop him.

Not according to the original DA who stated that was precisely their apparent intent.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

we arent talking about intent,,,that only applies if arbry didnt attack them and get killed for it,,,

It demonstrates that this was not a friendly encounter but one of force on the part of McMichaels, which makes the case of self defense for Arbery more consistent.

it proves the case arbry was a stupid fuck if he thought he could beat a guy with a gun,,,
he should have waited and let them detain him then he could have sued them if it ended up he was innocent,,,

Yeah, Arbery’s the stupid fuck for defending himself.

Meanwhile these two geniuses are spending the weekend in jail.

View attachment 333996

yes he is because hes now dead,,,when all he had to do was let them do their thing and if they were wrong he could sue the shit out of them,,,

And what if letting them do “their thing” meant they murder him?

I mean, listen to yourself. You’re saying that he should just submit to these guys?

as per the report they had plenty of time to kill him if they wanted to,,,so your saying that was their intent is the rantings of a racist,,,

Ah, you played the race card. That must mean you know you’re losing.

A reasonable person being chased by armed men would see that as a threat to their life.

and a stupid or guilty man attacks them instead of calling the cops himself,,,

Arbery had a right to self defense. You can call it stupid if you want, but that’s his right.

both partys did,,

its just his decision to attack ended with his death when running away wouldnt have,,,

to bad he didnt call the cops himself or run into a front yard of a house and yell for the police to be called,,,

The decision to go after him resulted in Arbery’s death. Had they not chased after him, never would have happened.

You don’t have a right to attack someone who is defending themselves.