"New Normal"

[candycorn]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Probably not. Most of us have not forgotten the Bush Years and The Patriot Act, warrant-less wire taps, torture, kidnapping, and detention, special rendition, you know, the bread and butter of the Patriot act that occurred under the panic of the Bush Administration? Bush did not pay the price. He was re-elected. Lets not forget no fly lists so easy to get on that several members of Congress have been flagged, including Senator Ted Kennedy back in the day. Very difficult and even expensive to get off the list even if it is the government's mistake. Can't get much more slippery slope than the Son-ov-a-Bush assaults on our freedoms and privacies.

Very true.

Good points all.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You will comply. Resistance is futile.

resistance is as easy as TURNING OFF BLUETOOTH.

Until new phones are programmed to not give you an option.

 

[candycorn]

View attachment 339322

*****SMILE*****

Now, if they want to get Tara Reid to do the tracing....I'm sure grumps would change his mind.

 

[eagle7-31]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

No, he wasn't. He expected businesses to photocopy your id. He expected customers to give up their info upon request.

 

[candycorn]

You will comply. Resistance is futile.

resistance is as easy as TURNING OFF BLUETOOTH.

Until new phones are programmed to not give you an option.

Yeah... that won't be an option. It will be running in the background, pinging off cell towers and what not. Blue Tooth is the contact part. Meaning that the guy driving by won't pair with your phone. But you can be "placed" at the convenience store and therefore read as an exposure if the authorities wanted to go that far.

The trick (from their standpoint) is to know that the GPS on your phone is inside a building and the GPS on the guy in the car's phone is outside the building thus eliminating the need for a contact trace.

I'm sure the engineers are smart but are they THAT smart? Probably not.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.

 

[candycorn]

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

No, he wasn't. He expected businesses to photocopy your id. He expected customers to give up their info upon request.

*eyeroll*

Okay...then what.

The 500 people who visit Home Depot or Wal*Mart are going to get a phone call from whom? The 5 person city health department?

 

[candycorn]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.

Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

No, he wasn't. He expected businesses to photocopy your id. He expected customers to give up their info upon request.

*eyeroll*

Okay...then what.

The 500 people who visit Home Depot or Wal*Mart are going to get a phone call from whom? The 5 person city health department?

We may need 300,000 contact tracers to defeat COVID-19. We have 2,200

Contact-tracing capacity is seen as critical to stopping transmission of disease.

arstechnica.com

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.

Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....

Already happening

 

[eagle7-31]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.

Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....

I was thinking great opportunity for hackers, scammers.

 

[candycorn]

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

No, he wasn't. He expected businesses to photocopy your id. He expected customers to give up their info upon request.

*eyeroll*

Okay...then what.

The 500 people who visit Home Depot or Wal*Mart are going to get a phone call from whom? The 5 person city health department?

We may need 300,000 contact tracers to defeat COVID-19. We have 2,200

Contact-tracing capacity is seen as critical to stopping transmission of disease.

arstechnica.com

Precisely.... again, your mayor was talking out of his buttocks if he was talking about contract tracing on an enterprise scale.

 

[candycorn]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.

The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.

Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....

I was thinking great opportunity for hackers, scammers.

Gold Rush sized potential.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Don't get tested at all unless its completely private

I went into county clerk today to straighten out a minor fuck up....I had to have a mask on ...they took my temperature and everyone in the place was a fat karen

Uh boy the lady controlling the front door she had a uniform on
She asked me have you had a headache ,lose taste or smell , been in contact with anyone who has had it,,,had any diarrhea lol
Me being me said well let me tell ya about my explosive diarreah

she did not find that amusing at all and I had to insist I was just kidding
When I asked are you serious about the tempature
Was she ever

It took me LONGER to get past Karen the nazi than at the counter to get a rubber stamp on a piece of paper

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Don't get tested at all unless its completely private

I have no reason to get tested. I am not sick. I don't make a habit of wasting medical resources or money for no reason.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Don't get tested at all unless its completely private

I have no reason to get tested. I am not sick. I don't make a habit of wasting medical resources or money for no reason.

I'm curious to see if I have the antibodies since I may of had it in Dec

I did come back from NYC end nov

 

[night_son]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Excellent post. You hit the bull's-eye from 1500 meters out. Now the question begs: what will Americans do about it? Something like 65% of adult Americans surrendered their livelihoods, Constitutional Rights, freedom of movement . . . all in the span of less than a week. In other words, most Americans have already gone quietly into the night without so much as squeak of real resistance. After a "vaccine" is released a similar number of Americans will step right up. So tell me, sir, what is the value of knowing the truth when one is force marched down the road to extinction?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

Are you seriously approving of all this?

 

[candycorn]

This is code for taking your freedom.
It is code for making your pursuit of happiness secondary to big government whims.
It is code for the biggest slippery slope power grab in a generation.

The current Democrat power grab is either going to cost them dearly in November or freedom loving Americans will no longer be free.

You can take your contact tracing and shove it.

Who is mandating contact tracing?

"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.

Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."

Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers

New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.

patch.com

Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked

Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.

Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.

That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.

A snipet:

View attachment 339315

Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.

The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.

Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.

Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.

Are you seriously approving of all this?

Approving? No. Understanding it's the next thing? Yes and that it's going to happen...yes. Snickering at the guys beating their chest saying "I will never agree to this"? Definitely. The same guys resisted seat belts.