New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden

[john doe 101]

He created it. Operation Warp Speed.

He didnt create it. Scientists who he bashes did.

 

[Dadoalex]

...You're a waste of time.

Yet here you are being owned like a good boy.

Sit Ubu, Sit. Good boy.

 

[noonereal]

Of good presidents,you are joking right? Top five WORST presidents maybe,that would be a legitimate argument.every serious historian knows they were corrupt bastards and traiters to America.criminal to the core as most presidents are.

you are awarded the coveted "I am a clown" award for your asinine post.
Congratulations

 

[noonereal]

Care to refute the point vs attack the source? The initial finding is out of UCLA dum dum

Easy to find two pumpkin heads in any pumpkin patch.

 

[Couchpotato]

Easy to find two pumpkin heads in any pumpkin patch.

I see there no actual substance to anything you post. Thanks. Good bye.

 

[Thunderbird]

It was the Traitors in the South who killed 600,000 unnecessarily

By the way, Lincoln was not alive in 1962

Try to be just a little reasonable.

The South had no interest in invading and conquering and annexing the North.

If Lincoln hadn’t invaded the South there would have been no war. True or false?

If Scotland opted for independence and the government in London used force to prevent independence, would the London government be justified?

Fort Sumter was arguably part of Southern territory. No one was killed by the Southern bombardment. The war should have been avoided. Chattel slavery was on its way out, war or no war. Many countries in the Americas freed their slaves without a civil war.

And notice the second best president on the list is FDR, who killed the second most Americans!

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[rightwinger]

Fort Sumter was arguably part of Southern territory. No one was killed by the Southern bombardment. The war should have been avoided. Chattel slavery was on its way out, war or no war. Many countries in the Americas freed their slaves without a civil war.

Ft Sumpter was Federal Property. If the Confederacy wanted it, the way to do that is to negotiate a transfer and pay the United States for their property. When you are firing cannon at someone….you don’t get to brag nobody was killed.

Chattel Slavery may have been on its way out until a Confederacy was formed ensuring slavery would exist forever. Most of the world managed to give up slavery without a war.
The South would rather fight than give up its slaves

 

[Thunderbird]

Ft Sumpter was Federal Property. If the Confederacy wanted it, the way to do that is to negotiate a transfer and pay the United States for their property. When you are firing cannon at someone….you don’t get to brag nobody was killed.

Chattel Slavery may have been on its way out until a Confederacy was formed ensuring slavery would exist forever. Most of the world managed to give up slavery without a war.
The South would rather fight than give up its slaves

By the way, it’s Sumter not Sumpter.

You avoided my questions because you see that you are in the wrong.

Reasonable people would agree that a portion of Federal property would belong to the South. If Lincoln was not seeking a casas belli, he would have let the South hold the fort.

Powerful economic/technological forces made chattel slavery obsolete. In the latter decades of the 1800s you have a more educated workforce concentrated in cities. Transportation and communication became easier and faster. Imagine trying to hold slaves in those circumstances. Chattel slavery would have become unprofitable. Even if the Confederates had been desperate to keep slavery (and some Southerners hated slavery) they would have failed.

 

[rightwinger]

Reasonable people would agree that a portion of Federal property would belong to the South. If Lincoln was not seeking a casas belli, he would have let the South hold the fort.

Ever hear of Guantanamo Bay at the tip of Cuba?

The South had no right to seize the property of the United States without compensation. Seizing at gunpoint results in a similar response

 

[rightwinger]

Powerful economic/technological forces made chattel slavery obsolete. In the latter decades of the 1800s you have a more educated workforce concentrated in cities. Transportation and communication became easier and faster. Imagine trying to hold slaves in those circumstances. Chattel slavery would have become unprofitable.

The South seemed to understand they would eventually lose their slaves if they remained in the United States

That is why they created a Confederacy whose Constitution ensured slavery forever

 

[Thunderbird]

The South seemed to understand they would eventually lose their slaves if they remained in the United States

That is why they created a Confederacy whose Constitution ensured slavery forever

Chattel slavery depends on isolation and ignorance. When those two disappear chattel slavery becomes unprofitable.

Moreover modern economies value innovation and need to reward those who are successful and energetic and intelligent. Slavery limits such incentives.

 

[rightwinger]

Chattel slavery depends on isolation and ignorance. When those two disappear chattel slavery becomes unprofitable.

Moreover modern economies value innovation and need to reward those who are successful and energetic and intelligent. Slavery limits such incentives.

No Shit

The South realized that new states were not going to allow slavery and that their power in Congress would be diluted.
With Lincoln, they saw someone who would speed the process .

They listened to the hot heads and elected to form a Confederacy that ensured slavery would exist forever.

If you question whether the south would eventually end slavery on its own, you only have to look at the hundred years where they legally kept blacks as second class citizens with limited rights

 

[Thunderbird]

No Shit

The South realized that new states were not going to allow slavery and that their power in Congress would be diluted.
With Lincoln, they saw someone who would speed the process .

They listened to the hot heads and elected to form a Confederacy that ensured slavery would exist forever.

If you question whether the south would eventually end slavery on its own, you only have to look at the hundred years where they legally kept blacks as second class citizens with limited rights

So you are admitting that the Civil War and the massive associated carnage failed to prevent second class status for blacks?

I’m glad we agree that a modern economy values innovation over ignorance and isolation, thus making chattel slavery unprofitable and untenable.

 

[Thunderbird]

Obama was a terrible president and deserves a low spot on the list.

Can Obama be classified as a serial killer? Were impoverished children on the other side of the planet a big threat to American security?

Barack Obama Is A War Criminal - Harvard Political Review

President Obama is not a pioneer of the illegal and offensive wars that the United States has engaged in during the last 20 years. But the use of drone strikes under his administration make him an international war criminal.

harvardpolitics.com

How Obama’s ‘Worst Mistake’ Led to the Libyan Slave Trade

When CNN broke the story several weeks ago that slavery—not wage slavery, not emotional slavery, not virtual slavery, but actual whips-and-chains-forced labor slavery—was alive and well in the North African nation of Libya, Americans finally started to take notice. Sort of.

www.theroot.com

I think everyone recognizes the Afghanistan War was a sham. We spent close to a trillion $ and our puppet government lasted just a few hours.

The Nine Surges of Obama's War

Tom Engelhardt: Fact Is The U.S. Military Has Been In Constant State Of Surge This Year

www.cbsnews.com

Obama & surveillance:

Opinion: Obama's surveillance legacy

Just two days after his Jan. 10 farewell speech, the Obama administration granted sweeping surveillance powers to the incoming Trump presidency – dramatically expanding 17 government agencies legal authority to spy on US citizens.

www.csmonitor.com

 

[noonereal]

I see there no actual substance to anything you post. Thanks. Good bye.

Out searching for more conformation bias?
Lol

 

[gipper]

LBJ and FDR should be in the top 5.

Wow is that fucked up. Could you explain your opinion?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

LBJ was a flaming racist.

FDR prolonged the depression for years.

You should stick to history and stay out of the sports section,at least in this section you know something of what your talking about.That only scratches the surface on LBJ,he was not only a racist but he was one of many traiters involved in the jfk assassination,him and Nixon were murderers of 58,000 American soldiers in Vietnam.

Had kennedy lived there would never have been a Vietnam war,our corrupt school system teaches that kennedy got us into Vietnam which could not be any further from the truth.he Inherited Vietnam from Truman who got us into the conflict,we have documentation that he was going to completely withdraw us from Vietnam by 1965 as well as his aides saying that.LBJ reversed Kennedy’s policy.

kennedy never sent in combat troops,LBJ did,kennedy only sent in advisors. Casualty’s never started to amount into the hundreds till lbj took office,there were less than a hundred under kennedy.Nixon also lied to the people that he would end the war immediately but let it go on another four years expanding the war to Cambodia.

And as far as the other traiter FDR not only did he prolong the Great Depression the mother fucker bastard also imprisoned innocent japenese people.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Wow is that fucked up. Could you explain your opinion?

The UNDERSTATEMENT of the century, that’s every bit as fucked up as trump being last,as you well know most presidents especially the ones in the twentieth century,were criminals,mass murders and traiters and FDR and LBJ sure as hell were no exception.as I said before,he would only have a legitimate argument if he ranked them in the top five as the worst presidents ever.

HE is clearly a dumbass who clearly is clueless to how corrupt LBJ and FDR were,he obviously got his information from his textbooks in history classes from our corrupt school system so expect a bunch of babble and insults instead of him trying to explain his opinion. Cosch pototato and myself just took him to school that if anything,the only top five they may have been is the top five worst presidents ever. He probably thinks Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever as well.comedy gold. He is the same as wrongwinger,he won’t address evidence or answer questions because he knows he is wrong.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I posted many poofs. That's how it works on message boards and anywhere else, DUPEY.

indeed.

 

[Lastamender]

Coming in this year at No. 14 among all-time presidents is the bumbling, muttering tool of psychopath leftists and corruptocrats everywhere, Joe Biden. This ranking hilariously puts him in the top one-third of all American presidents. The list places Donald Trump dead last, the very worst president in all of American history. Again, hilariously predictable. Of course, these are the same “experts” who in 2015 ranked Bill Clinton and Woodrow Wilson above Ronald Reagan, and put Jimmy Carter ahead of Calvin Coolidge.

Average Americans Are Snuffing Out 'Expert' Gaslighters

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No one believes these experts. Not even the people who say they do.