New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student’s Mom

[Alex.]

That teacher was lucky she wasn't killed!

Next teacher might be.

I agree it is a hell of a job. Has always been a tough thing to do.

Not always... If my Dad had found out that I had caused a teacher to have to touch me... I'D have been the one laying in the hall, trying to remember who I was.

Same with my parents but "Every day approximately 100,000 children are assaulted at school. Additionally, 5,000 teachers are threatened with physical assault and 200 are actually attacked."

http://www.colorado.edu/cspv/publications/factsheets/schoolviolence/FS-SV10.pdf

I won't debate the numbers... I'd only add, are those numbers higher or lower than they were when we were in school?

I'm sure you'd agree that it's higher.

Perhaps you'll agree that the reason that it is higher, is that the standards have been lowered.

Thus we can rest assured that the Ideological Left is the cause, because the Ideological Left, being Relativist in nature and entirely... is axiomatically opposed to ALL sense of standard, due to the intrinsic basis of standards being DISCRIMINATION.

Understand, that absent the perversion of the concept Discrimination, the Ideological Left evaporates back into the ether.

So you have teachers governed by the unprincipled notions of Left-think... and the product of socialism besetting their spawn upon the school system... which of course is the formulaic perfection for CHAOS, CALAMITY and CATASTROPHE... which I am sure you will recognize as the sole product of EVIL.

I did some looking around and some of the stories are real pissers, "January 11, 1955 Swarthmore, Pennsylvania After some of his dorm mates urinated on his mattress Bob Bechtel, a 20-year-old student at Swarthmore College, returned to his dorm with a shotgun and used it to shoot and kill fellow student Holmes Strozier."

More than that, "According to the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, in the United States, from September 1986 to September 1990 (four year period):

At least 71 people (65 students and 6 school employees) had been killed with guns at school.
201 were severely wounded by gun fire.
242 individuals were held hostage at gunpoint.

According to a 1987 survey conducted by the American School Health Association," 3% of the boys reported having carried a handgun to school at least once during the school year; 1% reported carrying a handgun on a daily basis."

History of School Shootings in the United States K12 Academics

So I agree with you but there was always violence dating back to the 1700's.

 

[Nutz]

Throw the mom in jail and her kid(s) out of the school system. Problem solved.

Perpetuates the problem and creates other more serious problems for society.

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

 

[buddhallah_the_christ]

Every single teacher should walk out of that school in protest. Those schools need to have guards at every post like a prison. These teachers aren't safe.

 

[Alex.]

Throw the mom in jail and her kid(s) out of the school system. Problem solved.

Perpetuates the problem and creates other more serious problems for society.

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

 

[Nutz]

Throw the mom in jail and her kid(s) out of the school system. Problem solved.

Perpetuates the problem and creates other more serious problems for society.

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

 

[Alex.]

Perpetuates the problem and creates other more serious problems for society.

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

Different issues different solutions

 

[Nutz]

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

Different issues different solutions

Violence is violence. It is time to take extreme measures...the liberal way just hasn't been working.

 

[Alex.]

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

Different issues different solutions

Violence is violence. It is time to take extreme measures...the liberal way just hasn't been working.

LOL sounds like a canned answer.


I say take the time to develop solutions to the problems do not let these animals govern themselves by casting them out of the system.

 

[Nutz]

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

Different issues different solutions

Violence is violence. It is time to take extreme measures...the liberal way just hasn't been working.

LOL sounds like a canned answer.


I say take the time to develop solutions to the problems do not let these animals govern themselves by casting them out of the system.

You are right...it is a canned answer...in a sense. I am not proposing they govern themselves...I am proposing they lose the benefits they abused.

 

[Alex.]

We could send these folks to live in your neighborhood so you can report how if effects society. I am not saying no punishment or any tolerance at all but to cast them out is irresponsible.

How is it irresponsible? We do it all of the time. Should we keep rapists, murderers and violent offenders on the street or cast them out to prison?

Different issues different solutions

Violence is violence. It is time to take extreme measures...the liberal way just hasn't been working.

LOL sounds like a canned answer.


I say take the time to develop solutions to the problems do not let these animals govern themselves by casting them out of the system.

You are right...it is a canned answer...in a sense. I am not proposing they govern themselves...I am proposing they lose the benefits they abused.

The student is guaranteed an education, where they are educated can be determined if they pose a threat to the school or it's community.

 

[Alex.]

Imagine waking up next to her.

Annika McKenzie, 34, allegedly ambushed a veteran math teacher at Alverta B. Gray Schultz Middle School in Hempstead, L.I. She was arraigned Thursday.

 

[Michelle420]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Need better security at the school, nut job parents are commonplace. Believe it or not nut job parents raise nut job kids. The art of parenting today is wanting.

Helicopter parents are crazy!

 

[Mr Natural]

Back in my day, if a teacher got physical with you, the first thing parents would ask was "What did YOU do?"

 

[Michelle420]

Throw the mom in jail and her kid(s) out of the school system. Problem solved.

Perpetuates the problem and creates other more serious problems for society.

Not really. It sets a standard with expectations.

What is the standard and what are the exceptions.

There are no exceptions. A parent or guardian attacks a teacher...that parent and her spawn are forever banned from that school system or the kids are forced to go to a magnet school for dummies and criminals. It is that simple. Create a rule...enforce that rule without exceptions...and who cares who cries. If you assault a teacher - you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

The claim is the teacher put her hands on the kid but the Teacher wouldn't discuss it with the mom, the teacher told the mother to go sign in at the front office and wouldn't discuss it. That is when the mom attacked her.

 

[Michelle420]

Back in my day, if a teacher got physical with you, the first thing parents would ask was "What did YOU do?"

Helicopter parents aren't like that. They want to be friends with their kids and have a reputation of being overprotective.

Three Steps for Dealing With Helicopter Parents American School Counselor Association ASCA

 

[Alex.]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Need better security at the school, nut job parents are commonplace. Believe it or not nut job parents raise nut job kids. The art of parenting today is wanting.

Helicopter parents are crazy!

Helicopter parents are close cousins to Munchhausen by proxy cuckoo birds in creating problemed children and problematic situations for school staff. I remember one parent climbing her son had a severe allergy to peanuts without medical proof then stated her son had a severe fear of getting his haircut. He walked around looking like Cousin Itt.

 

[Moonglow]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Well duh, now she knows....

 

[Moonglow]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Need better security at the school, nut job parents are commonplace. Believe it or not nut job parents raise nut job kids. The art of parenting today is wanting.

It seemed to start in the 1990's. My son was playing T-ball and some of the parents became violent with other parents over game play....There was this Dare cop that had shot himself in the foot and was in a cast, his wife was the belligerent parent that was causing the most problems...

 

[Alex.]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Need better security at the school, nut job parents are commonplace. Believe it or not nut job parents raise nut job kids. The art of parenting today is wanting.

It seemed to start in the 1990's. My son was playing T-ball and some of the parents became violent with other parents over game play....There was this Dare cop that had shot himself in the foot and was in a cast, his wife was the belligerent parent that was causing the most problems...

Always look to the parents for the root cause in these situations.

 

[Moonglow]

Annika McKenzie reportedly believed that Catherine Engelhardt “put her hands on” her daughter earlier the same day. Englehardt was left unconscious for “several minutes” after being kicked and strangled. Both McKenzie and her 14-year-old niece were arrested at the scene.

Catherine Engelhardt reportedly refused to speak with McKenzie about the alleged incident with her daughter when she arrived and told her to first go get a security pass. The physical attack reportedly began immediately after the refusal.


Read more at New York Teacher Strangled And Left In Hallway By Student s Mom Police Say

They should have gone to the administration and complained if the Teacher put her hands on the student. This is not a good way to settle it.

Need better security at the school, nut job parents are commonplace. Believe it or not nut job parents raise nut job kids. The art of parenting today is wanting.

It seemed to start in the 1990's. My son was playing T-ball and some of the parents became violent with other parents over game play....There was this Dare cop that had shot himself in the foot and was in a cast, his wife was the belligerent parent that was causing the most problems...

Always look to the parents for the root cause in these situations.

Well I played sports all through grade/jr high and high school, so I was used to screaming and yelling and at OU on football Saturdays when they had one to many screwdrivers there might be a fight..But not at T-ball kids games where the kids are 5-6 years old...