Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[theHawk]

Cuba is communist.

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“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism”- - Karl Marx

 

[the other mike]

Reality check.

 

[P@triot]

Reality check.

Oh wow....a couple of low budget videos uploaded to YouTube by ignorant socialist tools such as yourself.

 

[the other mike]

I did vote for Carter so don't blame me for any of the neocon fuckups.

 

[the other mike]

Empires hate democracy and socialism.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What good is capitalism if it means spending a trillion a year on security ?

What good is socialism if the rabbit can't shovel when the manufacturing billows?

(Psst...my question made as much sense as your nonsensical, unrelated, idiotic question)

What the fuck does the price tag for national security in the current geopolitical climate have to do with capitalism?!? They are two completely unrelated items. National security threats are not even remotely driven by a chosen economic system.

Seriously, how much does the twerp think countries like China or the former Soviet Union spend/spent on "national security"?

If a socialist country doesn't have to spend money on national security, it's only because they're so dirt-poor that no one wants to invade them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

To much of a pussy to respond to my PM I see.

Too much of a pussy to say what you think out where everyone can read it, I see.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I did vote for Carter so don't blame me for any of the neocon fuckups.

Don't worry. We're too busy blaming you for decades of leftist/socialist ass-hattery.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Empires hate democracy and socialism.

Yeah, those countries are just DYING for your ignorant ass to come in and "bravely" fight for something on their behalf THAT THEY DON'T WANT.

You lefties spend a lot of time speaking for people who never elected you their spokescritter, and never asked for the shit you, in your supposedly superior wisdom, have decided they need. Have you ever noticed that?

 

[the other mike]

Too much of a pussy to respond to my PM I see.

Too much of a pussy to say what you think out where everyone can read it, I see.

Guess I deserved that.
Thanks twisted sister !
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p@triot's still an asshole though.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Too much of a pussy to respond to my PM I see.

Too much of a pussy to say what you think out where everyone can read it, I see.

Guess I deserved that.
Thanks twisted sister !
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p@triot's still an asshole though.

Really? He's always very courteous to me. Maybe if people treat you like shit, you should consider whether or not you're acting like shit.

Come back anytime you need more lessons in being a man, Nancy.

 

[the other mike]

You lefties

Yeah ....because so many 'lefties' like me are Trump supporters.
You're judging me for starting one discussion about 'socialism', which obviously triggers you USMB group-thinkers.

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[the other mike]

Really? He's always very courteous to me. Maybe if people treat you like shit, you should consider whether or not you're acting like shit.

Come back anytime you need more lessons in being a man, Nancy.

Scroll back. HE started the shit with me.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”



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America has one of the world's highest standards of living

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Really? He's always very courteous to me. Maybe if people treat you like shit, you should consider whether or not you're acting like shit.

Come back anytime you need more lessons in being a man, Nancy.

Scroll back. HE started the shit with me.

Facts are hard for commies and commie lovers.

 

[the other mike]

America has one of the world's highest standards of living

"Our family has the nicest house in the neighborhood, which means we get to come around and shit on your lawns anytime, rape your kids and eat your pets and you can't do a fucking thing about it."

 

[the other mike]

Really? He's always very courteous to me. Maybe if people treat you like shit, you should consider whether or not you're acting like shit.

Come back anytime you need more lessons in being a man, Nancy.

Scroll back. HE started the shit with me.

Facts are hard for commies and commie lovers.

Cecilie1200 is a commie ?
That's too bad.

 

[the other mike]

The bottom line is what people think it is.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

America has one of the world's highest standards of living

"Our family has the nicest house in the neighborhood, which means we get to come around and shit on your lawns anytime, rape your kids and eat your pets and you can't do a fucking thing about it."

what r u talking about?

 

[the other mike]