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Evidently you do not know the difference between a 'kiss' and 'sexual assault'. She stated she had to fight him off / forcibly push him off of her....and his story - and yours - about practicing for a skit does not jive when he physically felt her up while she slept.These are HER words from her article....I did, Slade.She stated that she agreed to kiss him you dumb ass, read the article.
I must have missed her 'snowflake/liberal speak' when she said:
"Tweeden said Franken repeatedly pressured her to practice the kiss backstage and at one point forcibly kissed her.
“I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time,” she wrote. “I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.” Tweeden said she felt “disgusted and violated” – and that the abuse didn’t stop there."
-- Al Franken accused of kissing, groping LA TV host without consent
Can you please point out in this sexual assault where Tweeden agreed to kiss her attacker?
Did she somehow agree to let him feel her up while she slept, too?
"“I couldn’t believe it,” she wrote. “He groped me, without my consent, while I was asleep. I felt violated all over again. Embarrassed. Belittled. Humiliated. How dare anyone grab my breasts like this and think it’s funny?”
Let me guess, you were a frat boy in college...or at least one of those guys who never took 'no' for an answer because 'whenever a girl says 'no' she really means 'Yes'?!
"He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth."
As for the gropping, he was posing for a picture acting like he was grabbing her boobs. "Gropping" is the inflamatory talking point being thrown out, thanks for showing you're a puppet."
No I wasn't in a Frat, I wanted nothing to do with Frat boys in College, I have a younger sister and have always treated women the same way I would want my sister treated. I would not want my sister treated the way Franken treated this women so for the 6th time I'll say that his actions were wildly inappropriate.
I've also posed in pictures acting like a was humping friends when they were passed out. It was all in good fun, not meant to be a sexual assault, but I think you understand that...
I'm not making excuses for Franken, but I am looking for an honest account of whats going on.
well it's obvious he touched her and an apology doesn't change that fact. but you live with your double standards pal, I really don't give a shit about your fking belief system, just don't go making accusations of others then.then why did he apologize?The picture does not show his hands on her breasts, only close for the staged photo.What choice did Franken have? There's a fucking picture of him doing it!You have absolutely zero standing to make any claims.Kudos to those honest posters on this thread who admit that both parties are guilty of being hypocritical.
The rest -- those who are spinning and deflecting and attacking -- are liars.
You equated Democrats and republicans especially after Al Franken's immediate full throated acknowledgment and apology.
Show me where either trump or Moore did that?
HUH?
You should be ashamed
Even if he didn’t touch her it was still the wrong thing to do.
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Al Franken is not even a legitimate Senator because he was elected by Democrat Voter Fraud.
York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots
Like the Trump/Russian voter fraud that elected Trump?
She didn't wait then drop the bomb on him. Look at what REALLY happened. Moore hit the public eye and his opposition started digging. The rumors of his sexual past with minors had been floating around for a long time and some reporters started digging. It took them a long time to get several women and dozens of sources to go on record. Yes it was a political hit piece. That doesn't mean it is false. It came out because of the election and the efforts of reports and Moore opponents. That doesn't mean it is false.More and more is coming out, as some point you gotta decide whether this "I was framed" narrative is believable or not. For me that was out the window when accuser number 4 came out and I listened to her account of what happened.Well lets just break it down. People who support Franken were probably disgusted by the news. I like Franken and I didn't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when reading the article about the encounter. I think looked at how he responded. It was a disgusting act and it was a sincere and appropriate response by Franken. If more inappropriate acts come out especially any that reflect criminal actions then may they come out and may he pay the price.Don't know. This thread could have been a page or two long.What more would you like to be said about Franken? I think most people have stated that they think he crossed a line and did something inappropriate. He wrote a pretty humble apology, not trying to make excuses but trying to put women first and even called for an ethics investigation into his action. What more would you like to say?
But I do know that Franken's supporters are putting far more effort into deflecting to Moore, and that hypocrisy is just inviting mockery.
Something that obvious is pretty tough to miss.
.
There is nothing wrong with contrasting that to the Moore situation which has been dominating the airwaves. Look at the difference between the two and how they are responding and handling the situations.
Yes, one admitted his wrong doing and one claims he is being framed, as other politicians have been framed over the past few years.
Well, he may or may not have done that, frankly, we'll never know. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially given she waited 4 decades and on the eve of an election to allege this. Doesn't pass the smell test, at least for me.
I'm too young to have been a hippie.
and I don't get high.
control yourself, loon.
Lol, yeah I missed the hippie thing by a good 20-25 years. But was kind of fascinated by it and knocked around the Haight-Ashbury district one weekend while in college nearby. Not much going on - a few bums and mostly normal folk. Didn't smell any pot or patchouli oil. Kinda disappointing
She didn't wait then drop the bomb on him. Look at what REALLY happened. Moore hit the public eye and his opposition started digging. The rumors of his sexual past with minors had been floating around for a long time and some reporters started digging. It took them a long time to get several women and dozens of sources to go on record. Yes it was a political hit piece. That doesn't mean it is false. It came out because of the election and the efforts of reports and Moore opponents. That doesn't mean it is false.More and more is coming out, as some point you gotta decide whether this "I was framed" narrative is believable or not. For me that was out the window when accuser number 4 came out and I listened to her account of what happened.Well lets just break it down. People who support Franken were probably disgusted by the news. I like Franken and I didn't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when reading the article about the encounter. I think looked at how he responded. It was a disgusting act and it was a sincere and appropriate response by Franken. If more inappropriate acts come out especially any that reflect criminal actions then may they come out and may he pay the price.Don't know. This thread could have been a page or two long.
But I do know that Franken's supporters are putting far more effort into deflecting to Moore, and that hypocrisy is just inviting mockery.
Something that obvious is pretty tough to miss.
.
There is nothing wrong with contrasting that to the Moore situation which has been dominating the airwaves. Look at the difference between the two and how they are responding and handling the situations.
Yes, one admitted his wrong doing and one claims he is being framed, as other politicians have been framed over the past few years.
Well, he may or may not have done that, frankly, we'll never know. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially given she waited 4 decades and on the eve of an election to allege this. Doesn't pass the smell test, at least for me.
If that is all he did, you are saying this is perfectly acceptable behavior, not sexist or a violation of her rights, dignity, etc....As for the gropping, he was posing for a picture acting like he was grabbing her boobs.
These are HER words from her article....I did, Slade.She stated that she agreed to kiss him you dumb ass, read the article.
I must have missed her 'snowflake/liberal speak' when she said:
"Tweeden said Franken repeatedly pressured her to practice the kiss backstage and at one point forcibly kissed her.
“I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time,” she wrote. “I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.” Tweeden said she felt “disgusted and violated” – and that the abuse didn’t stop there."
-- Al Franken accused of kissing, groping LA TV host without consent
Can you please point out in this sexual assault where Tweeden agreed to kiss her attacker?
Did she somehow agree to let him feel her up while she slept, too?
"“I couldn’t believe it,” she wrote. “He groped me, without my consent, while I was asleep. I felt violated all over again. Embarrassed. Belittled. Humiliated. How dare anyone grab my breasts like this and think it’s funny?”
Let me guess, you were a frat boy in college...or at least one of those guys who never took 'no' for an answer because 'whenever a girl says 'no' she really means 'Yes'?!
"He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth."
As for the gropping, he was posing for a picture acting like he was grabbing her boobs. "Gropping" is the inflamatory talking point being thrown out, thanks for showing you're a puppet."
No I wasn't in a Frat, I wanted nothing to do with Frat boys in College, I have a younger sister and have always treated women the same way I would want my sister treated. I would not want my sister treated the way Franken treated this women so for the 6th time I'll say that his actions were wildly inappropriate.
I've also posed in pictures acting like a was humping friends when they were passed out. It was all in good fun, not meant to be a sexual assault, but I think you understand that...
I'm not making excuses for Franken, but I am looking for an honest account of whats going on.
the WAPA reported found the woman how? the supposed 14 year old one 53 today I want to see how she contacted her.She didn't wait then drop the bomb on him. Look at what REALLY happened. Moore hit the public eye and his opposition started digging. The rumors of his sexual past with minors had been floating around for a long time and some reporters started digging. It took them a long time to get several women and dozens of sources to go on record. Yes it was a political hit piece. That doesn't mean it is false. It came out because of the election and the efforts of reports and Moore opponents. That doesn't mean it is false.More and more is coming out, as some point you gotta decide whether this "I was framed" narrative is believable or not. For me that was out the window when accuser number 4 came out and I listened to her account of what happened.Well lets just break it down. People who support Franken were probably disgusted by the news. I like Franken and I didn't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when reading the article about the encounter. I think looked at how he responded. It was a disgusting act and it was a sincere and appropriate response by Franken. If more inappropriate acts come out especially any that reflect criminal actions then may they come out and may he pay the price.Don't know. This thread could have been a page or two long.
But I do know that Franken's supporters are putting far more effort into deflecting to Moore, and that hypocrisy is just inviting mockery.
Something that obvious is pretty tough to miss.
.
There is nothing wrong with contrasting that to the Moore situation which has been dominating the airwaves. Look at the difference between the two and how they are responding and handling the situations.
Yes, one admitted his wrong doing and one claims he is being framed, as other politicians have been framed over the past few years.
Well, he may or may not have done that, frankly, we'll never know. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially given she waited 4 decades and on the eve of an election to allege this. Doesn't pass the smell test, at least for me.
then why did he apologize?Franken isn't touching her in that photo.
You are hopeless man. Putting his hands over her boobs and posing for an obvious photo is feeling her up, really? Why didn't she wake up. You'd think a women would jump up if somebody started gropping her in her sleep... please explain...Evidently you do not know the difference between a 'kis' and 'sexual assault'. She stated she had to fight him off / forcibly push him off of her....and his story - and yours - about practicing for a skit does not jive when he physically felt her up while she slept.These are HER words from her article....I did, Slade.She stated that she agreed to kiss him you dumb ass, read the article.
I must have missed her 'snowflake/liberal speak' when she said:
"Tweeden said Franken repeatedly pressured her to practice the kiss backstage and at one point forcibly kissed her.
“I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time,” she wrote. “I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.” Tweeden said she felt “disgusted and violated” – and that the abuse didn’t stop there."
-- Al Franken accused of kissing, groping LA TV host without consent
Can you please point out in this sexual assault where Tweeden agreed to kiss her attacker?
Did she somehow agree to let him feel her up while she slept, too?
"“I couldn’t believe it,” she wrote. “He groped me, without my consent, while I was asleep. I felt violated all over again. Embarrassed. Belittled. Humiliated. How dare anyone grab my breasts like this and think it’s funny?”
Let me guess, you were a frat boy in college...or at least one of those guys who never took 'no' for an answer because 'whenever a girl says 'no' she really means 'Yes'?!
"He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth."
As for the gropping, he was posing for a picture acting like he was grabbing her boobs. "Gropping" is the inflamatory talking point being thrown out, thanks for showing you're a puppet."
No I wasn't in a Frat, I wanted nothing to do with Frat boys in College, I have a younger sister and have always treated women the same way I would want my sister treated. I would not want my sister treated the way Franken treated this women so for the 6th time I'll say that his actions were wildly inappropriate.
I've also posed in pictures acting like a was humping friends when they were passed out. It was all in good fun, not meant to be a sexual assault, but I think you understand that...
I'm not making excuses for Franken, but I am looking for an honest account of whats going on.
But please, continue on with your justification of Franken's sexual assaults.
These are HER words from her article....
"He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth."
As for the gropping, he was posing for a picture acting like he was grabbing her boobs. "Gropping" is the inflamatory talking point being thrown out, thanks for showing you're a puppet."
No I wasn't in a Frat, I wanted nothing to do with Frat boys in College, I have a younger sister and have always treated women the same way I would want my sister treated. I would not want my sister treated the way Franken treated this women so for the 6th time I'll say that his actions were wildly inappropriate.
I've also posed in pictures acting like a was humping friends when they were passed out. It was all in good fun, not meant to be a sexual assault, but I think you understand that...
I'm not making excuses for Franken, but I am looking for an honest account of whats going on.
Thanks for being a voice of reason - post more often!
She didn't wait then drop the bomb on him. Look at what REALLY happened. Moore hit the public eye and his opposition started digging. The rumors of his sexual past with minors had been floating around for a long time and some reporters started digging. It took them a long time to get several women and dozens of sources to go on record. Yes it was a political hit piece. That doesn't mean it is false. It came out because of the election and the efforts of reports and Moore opponents. That doesn't mean it is false.More and more is coming out, as some point you gotta decide whether this "I was framed" narrative is believable or not. For me that was out the window when accuser number 4 came out and I listened to her account of what happened.Well lets just break it down. People who support Franken were probably disgusted by the news. I like Franken and I didn't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when reading the article about the encounter. I think looked at how he responded. It was a disgusting act and it was a sincere and appropriate response by Franken. If more inappropriate acts come out especially any that reflect criminal actions then may they come out and may he pay the price.Don't know. This thread could have been a page or two long.
But I do know that Franken's supporters are putting far more effort into deflecting to Moore, and that hypocrisy is just inviting mockery.
Something that obvious is pretty tough to miss.
.
There is nothing wrong with contrasting that to the Moore situation which has been dominating the airwaves. Look at the difference between the two and how they are responding and handling the situations.
Yes, one admitted his wrong doing and one claims he is being framed, as other politicians have been framed over the past few years.
Well, he may or may not have done that, frankly, we'll never know. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially given she waited 4 decades and on the eve of an election to allege this. Doesn't pass the smell test, at least for me.
Really? Im I saying that? Take a breath and try real hard to be honest for just one post... What have I said 6 different times in my conversation with you? I've even counted it off each time i've said it. Come on, what is the phrase that i've said?If that is all he did, you are saying this is perfectly acceptable behavior, not sexist or a violation of her rights, dignity, etc....
I suppose Franken was just practicing for a skit when he said THIS: (I am sure Snowflakes will TRY to spin it to say he was...)
FLASHBACK AL FRANKEN: 'I just don't like homosexuals. I was glad when that homosexual got killed'...
"He recalled writing a skit called "Seamen on Broadway" that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show "by some preppie so they could take some other preppie's skit." Franken started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious. "It's not preppies, cause I'm a preppie myself. I just don't like homosexuals. If you ask me, they're all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia."
Franken was talking about how he hated the homosexuals in the Hasty Pudding who rejected his skit and opted for another.
What a 'classy' guy.
Live From New York: It's Al Franken | News | The Harvard Crimson
And he thinks if he apologizes he can escape punishment for his actions.then why did he apologize?Franken isn't touching her in that photo.
Because it was the right thing to do.
what you're saying is if someone apologizes all is forgiven.Really? Im I saying that? Take a breath and try real hard to be honest for just one post... What have I said 6 different times in my conversation with you? I've even counted it off each time i've said it. Come on, what is the phrase that i've said?If that is all he did, you are saying this is perfectly acceptable behavior, not sexist or a violation of her rights, dignity, etc....
