No Benghazi Stand Down Order

[mudwhistle]

There are only two possible reasons for the lack of response during the 13 hour Benghazi attack. The most likely reason is a stand down order given how close in proximity CIA forces were. The other possibility is that the CIA personnel were too scared to get their asses over their and fight. Your 5 million dollar bet is a joke because you know it is impossible to prove or disprove a verbal order.

You need to watch the movie "13 Hours".

The movie wasn't based on facts.

that's fine. from your posts, your opinions don't seem to be either.

Point out one factual claim I have made that you believe is false. I will provide links to evidence supporting it. If I was wrong, I will correct my mistake. Thanks. View attachment 215751

Kind of erases all of the self-righteous assholes' arguments who claimed Trump disrespected John McCain.

 

[gipper]

Trump would have been impeached had he handled Benghazi like BO did and rightfully so.

The old double standard.

Imagine the outrage lefties and their media would have had.

What did Obama do, or not do, in connection with Benghazi that you believe warranted impeachment? Thanks.

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Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.

At 0200 hours local time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta convenes a series of meetings in the Pentagon with senior officials Including General Dempsey and General Ham. They discuss additional response options for Benghazi and for the potential outbreak of further violence throughout the region, particularly in Tunis, Tunisia; Tripoli, Libya; Cairo, Egypt; and Sana'a, Yemen. During these meetings, Secretary Panetta directs (provides verbal authorization) the following actions: 1) A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; 2) a EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to be Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group); and 3) a special operations force based in the United States is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to have been a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force"). During this period, actions were verbally conveyed from the Pentagon to the affected Combatant Commands in order to expedite movement of forces upon receipt of formal authorization. At 0239 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization for the 2 Marine Corps FAST platoons, and associated equipment, to prepare to deploy and for the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, to move to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0253 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization to deploy a special operations force, and associated equipment, from the United States to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0500 hours local time, a second, unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was also directed to relieve the initial asset still on station over Benghazi.

To meet the evacuating personnel in Tripoli, at 0605 hours local time, US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.

Crisis response activities continued during this period. At 0757 hours local time, the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, arrives at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0856, the FAST platoon, and associated equipment, arrived in Tripoli. At 0928, the special operations force deployed from the United States, and associated equipment, arrived at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. Naval Forces Europe's forward-stationed and rotational forces played a critical role in these parts of the response mission. The availability of Naval Air Station Sigonella, Italy, and Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, enabled US forces to be rapidly postured, employed, and sustained as tasking evolved over the course of the crisis response. US Navy and joint force operations could not have occurred without these bases and the direct support they provided. Additionally, the command flagship, USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), operating from international waters with the Commander, US Sixth Fleet, embarked, provided command and control, planning, and support coordination during the initial phase of the crisis. Mount Whitney was joined by the landing ship dock USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and the destroyers USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109), and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98) during the initial response. The USS Fort McHenry and USS McFaul continued to participate in the extended Operation Jukebox Lotus mission after the initial attack.

Crisis response elements remained in Libya into October 2012, and were deployed to other locations in the region in response to the potential for similar attacks elsewhere.

Operation Jukebox Lotus

I didn't say Obama would be impeached. Trump would be impeached. There is a double standard right?

Obama lied DIRECTLY to the American people about the cause. He had many in his administration lie. This should be an impeachable offense.

 

[Slice The Great]

 

[iceberg]

There are only two possible reasons for the lack of response during the 13 hour Benghazi attack. The most likely reason is a stand down order given how close in proximity CIA forces were. The other possibility is that the CIA personnel were too scared to get their asses over their and fight. Your 5 million dollar bet is a joke because you know it is impossible to prove or disprove a verbal order.

You need to watch the movie "13 Hours".

The movie wasn't based on facts.

that's fine. from your posts, your opinions don't seem to be either.

Point out one factual claim I have made that you believe is false. I will provide links to evidence supporting it. If I was wrong, I will correct my mistake. Thanks. View attachment 215751

not gonna play this game w/a troll.

have a nice day.

 

[iceberg]

and like i said - when you pull shit like this the last thing you care about is honesty.

any further explanation necessary?

 

[Slice The Great]

Trump would have been impeached had he handled Benghazi like BO did and rightfully so.

The old double standard.

Imagine the outrage lefties and their media would have had.

What did Obama do, or not do, in connection with Benghazi that you believe warranted impeachment? Thanks.

************************************************************************************************************

Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.

At 0200 hours local time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta convenes a series of meetings in the Pentagon with senior officials Including General Dempsey and General Ham. They discuss additional response options for Benghazi and for the potential outbreak of further violence throughout the region, particularly in Tunis, Tunisia; Tripoli, Libya; Cairo, Egypt; and Sana'a, Yemen. During these meetings, Secretary Panetta directs (provides verbal authorization) the following actions: 1) A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; 2) a EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to be Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group); and 3) a special operations force based in the United States is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to have been a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force"). During this period, actions were verbally conveyed from the Pentagon to the affected Combatant Commands in order to expedite movement of forces upon receipt of formal authorization. At 0239 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization for the 2 Marine Corps FAST platoons, and associated equipment, to prepare to deploy and for the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, to move to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0253 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization to deploy a special operations force, and associated equipment, from the United States to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0500 hours local time, a second, unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was also directed to relieve the initial asset still on station over Benghazi.

To meet the evacuating personnel in Tripoli, at 0605 hours local time, US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.

Crisis response activities continued during this period. At 0757 hours local time, the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, arrives at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0856, the FAST platoon, and associated equipment, arrived in Tripoli. At 0928, the special operations force deployed from the United States, and associated equipment, arrived at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. Naval Forces Europe's forward-stationed and rotational forces played a critical role in these parts of the response mission. The availability of Naval Air Station Sigonella, Italy, and Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, enabled US forces to be rapidly postured, employed, and sustained as tasking evolved over the course of the crisis response. US Navy and joint force operations could not have occurred without these bases and the direct support they provided. Additionally, the command flagship, USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), operating from international waters with the Commander, US Sixth Fleet, embarked, provided command and control, planning, and support coordination during the initial phase of the crisis. Mount Whitney was joined by the landing ship dock USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and the destroyers USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109), and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98) during the initial response. The USS Fort McHenry and USS McFaul continued to participate in the extended Operation Jukebox Lotus mission after the initial attack.

Crisis response elements remained in Libya into October 2012, and were deployed to other locations in the region in response to the potential for similar attacks elsewhere.

Operation Jukebox Lotus

I didn't say Obama would be impeached. Trump would be impeached. There is a double standard right?

Obama lied DIRECTLY to the American people about the cause. He had many in his administration lie. This should be an impeachable offense.

What did Obama say to the American people about the cause, that you believe was a lie? If possible, can you provide a link to evidence showing that what he said was a lie? Thanks.

 

[Slice The Great]

and like i said - when you pull shit like this the last thing you care about is honesty.

any further explanation necessary?

You got me there. I just saw it. Couldn't resist posting it.

 

[Slice The Great]

There are only two possible reasons for the lack of response during the 13 hour Benghazi attack. The most likely reason is a stand down order given how close in proximity CIA forces were. The other possibility is that the CIA personnel were too scared to get their asses over their and fight. Your 5 million dollar bet is a joke because you know it is impossible to prove or disprove a verbal order.

You need to watch the movie "13 Hours".

The movie wasn't based on facts.

that's fine. from your posts, your opinions don't seem to be either.

Point out one factual claim I have made that you believe is false. I will provide links to evidence supporting it. If I was wrong, I will correct my mistake. Thanks. View attachment 215751

not gonna play this game w/a troll.

have a nice day.

It was nice meeting you. Have a great day.

 

[Richard-H]

O.k - EVERYBODY!

Close your eyes and imagine whatever you want to believe happened at Benghazi

Then post it as though it actually happened that way!

And keep insisting it did!

 

[jc456]

The reprehensible right will never stop beating the Benghazi dead horse.

that is fking correct and don't forget jack!

 

[whitehall]

Plausible deniability was an art during the Obama years. The fact of the matter is that the gallant Benghazi defenders ran out of ammunition while waiting for the greatest Military in the world to come to their aid but Barry was busy eating pizza and Hillary called in sick.

 

[jc456]

I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349

if there wasn't a stand down order, why are you betting there wasn't one? why would it be a talking point exactly if there wasn't one? My evidence is the fact you're betting there wasn't one.

 

[Slice The Great]

I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349

if there wasn't a stand down order, why are you betting there wasn't one? why would it be a talking point exactly if there wasn't one? My evidence is the fact you're betting there wasn't one.

I'm wagering you can't prove a stand down order.

 

[Slice The Great]

Plausible deniability was an art during the Obama years. The fact of the matter is that the gallant Benghazi defenders ran out of ammunition while waiting for the greatest Military in the world to come to their aid but Barry was busy eating pizza and Hillary called in sick.

I've never heard that the Benghazi defenders ran out of ammo. Where did you hear that?

 

[jc456]

I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349

if there wasn't a stand down order, why are you betting there wasn't one? why would it be a talking point exactly if there wasn't one? My evidence is the fact you're betting there wasn't one.

I'm wagering you can't prove a stand down order.

the fact your asking me to prove it is my proof. why else would you wager? Is this Corey Booker? hmm waging something you can't ever back up?

 

[Slice The Great]

Plausible deniability was an art during the Obama years. The fact of the matter is that the gallant Benghazi defenders ran out of ammunition while waiting for the greatest Military in the world to come to their aid but Barry was busy eating pizza and Hillary called in sick.

Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.

A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, was directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, was directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli.

A EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, was directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. (this force was Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group)

A special operations force based in the United States was directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force was a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force")

US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.

Operation Jukebox Lotus

 

[Meathead]

I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349

And all of this because of a youtube video. Would Hillary or Susan Rice lie?!

 

[jc456]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"

 

[mudwhistle]

O.k - EVERYBODY!

Close your eyes and imagine whatever you want to believe happened at Benghazi

Then post it as though it actually happened that way!

And keep insisting it did!

Yeah. That damned video sure caused a mess.

 

[Slice The Great]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"

The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.

The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."

The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down.

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