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Very interesting thanks. So consider this. If you wanted to create a 'military response' that was guaranteed to be a day late and a few lives short, you couldn't have done much better than that cluster fuck. Give me a break. Did it not dawn on any of the military high command to order every man in the compound with a gun to get over there and engage the enemy? Wouldn't any fifth grader have thought of that?What did Obama do, or not do, in connection with Benghazi that you believe warranted impeachment? Thanks.Trump would have been impeached had he handled Benghazi like BO did and rightfully so.
The old double standard.
Imagine the outrage lefties and their media would have had.
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Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.
At 0200 hours local time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta convenes a series of meetings in the Pentagon with senior officials Including General Dempsey and General Ham. They discuss additional response options for Benghazi and for the potential outbreak of further violence throughout the region, particularly in Tunis, Tunisia; Tripoli, Libya; Cairo, Egypt; and Sana'a, Yemen. During these meetings, Secretary Panetta directs (provides verbal authorization) the following actions: 1) A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; 2) a EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to be Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group); and 3) a special operations force based in the United States is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to have been a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force"). During this period, actions were verbally conveyed from the Pentagon to the affected Combatant Commands in order to expedite movement of forces upon receipt of formal authorization. At 0239 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization for the 2 Marine Corps FAST platoons, and associated equipment, to prepare to deploy and for the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, to move to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0253 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization to deploy a special operations force, and associated equipment, from the United States to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0500 hours local time, a second, unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was also directed to relieve the initial asset still on station over Benghazi.
To meet the evacuating personnel in Tripoli, at 0605 hours local time, US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.
Crisis response activities continued during this period. At 0757 hours local time, the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, arrives at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0856, the FAST platoon, and associated equipment, arrived in Tripoli. At 0928, the special operations force deployed from the United States, and associated equipment, arrived at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. Naval Forces Europe's forward-stationed and rotational forces played a critical role in these parts of the response mission. The availability of Naval Air Station Sigonella, Italy, and Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, enabled US forces to be rapidly postured, employed, and sustained as tasking evolved over the course of the crisis response. US Navy and joint force operations could not have occurred without these bases and the direct support they provided. Additionally, the command flagship, USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), operating from international waters with the Commander, US Sixth Fleet, embarked, provided command and control, planning, and support coordination during the initial phase of the crisis. Mount Whitney was joined by the landing ship dock USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and the destroyers USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109), and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98) during the initial response. The USS Fort McHenry and USS McFaul continued to participate in the extended Operation Jukebox Lotus mission after the initial attack.
Crisis response elements remained in Libya into October 2012, and were deployed to other locations in the region in response to the potential for similar attacks elsewhere.
Operation Jukebox Lotus
Did hilary illegally delete her emails? Yes or no fuck stick.how many Republican lead investigations into 'Benghazi' have there been already; six, seven, eight?
I f***ing lost count.
How many indictments so far? ZERO
F***ing next, please.
You assholes left your gun runners to die. It's what you do. Why did you stupid fucks refuse to use the assets available to save them? Because you wanted them dead.The reprehensible right will never stop beating the Benghazi dead horse.
well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/
"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
.
Yea that’s because that isn’t his call to make, that would be the presidents/administration’s call to make. The military doesn’t take orders from the CIA. They’ll collaborate a good bit with the CIA, secretary’s of defense might put an intel officer in partial charge of a unit to go after targets and what not...but a CIA chief can’t just give unilateral orders to a military carrier group around. Especially not when practically the entire presidential cabinet is controlling the situation from the situation room. Apparently, if I remember correctly, Obama claimed he went to bed at 5:30 pm, which just happened to be right before the attack, and he slept through the entire 13 hours.This is a great example of the logical fallacy called an appeal to ignorance. “Prove it’s 100% true, if not it is false”.I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349
Your apparent “liars of Benghazi” who were on the ground claim there was a stand down order. Just by your characterization of them right off the bat, your using another logical fallacy called an ad hominem (attacking a persons credentials or credibility instead of their claims), to suggest its a matter of he said she said.
What we do know with 100% certainty, there was a stand down order given to the carrier group right off of the coast. This group was prepared to send air assistance that would’ve arrived in 20 mins. They had a wide variety of options to provide assistance, including non-violent deterrence measures such as fly overs. We know that 2 of the defense contractors on the ground died using a laser designator to identify targets for air support that never came. We know that the excuses that were given by the administration about the situation that came out to be 100% false later. Excuses like this was all sparked by an obscure YouTube video that maybe was only viewed 1000 times. The supbeanoed emails showed this was the spin the administration decided to go with after the fact. We know the excuse given for the question of “how in the world was more help not provided at any point in this span of 13 hours that was requested on numerous occasions?” That excuse was the “fog of war”, a term that was pertinent in war pre satellite, drone, and advanced communication systems. We know that wasn’t the case since the administration was in constant contact with those on the ground, and had an around the clock drone flying overhead giving them all the visual data they needed in real time. We know that the help that was sent, the “liars of Benghazi”, were severely inadequate, and also claimed there was a stand down ordered they ignored. We also have all of the requests filed by the ambassador to send more security in the months leading up to this event. All of this and more point the arrow pretty strongly in the direction that the administration is guilty of some aggregious neglect, and tried to cover it up and put a more palatable spin on it.
So you’re going to run with the fact that there wasn’t a stenographer during the all conversations with chief of base as your “proof”?
The CIA commander in Benghazi never requested combat air support.
Very interesting thanks. So consider this. If you wanted to create a 'military response' that was guaranteed to be a day late and a few lives short, you couldn't have done much better than that cluster fuck. Give me a break. Did it not dawn on any of the military high command to order every man in the compound with a gun to get over there and engage the enemy? Wouldn't any fifth grader have thought of that?What did Obama do, or not do, in connection with Benghazi that you believe warranted impeachment? Thanks.Trump would have been impeached had he handled Benghazi like BO did and rightfully so.
The old double standard.
Imagine the outrage lefties and their media would have had.
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Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.
At 0200 hours local time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta convenes a series of meetings in the Pentagon with senior officials Including General Dempsey and General Ham. They discuss additional response options for Benghazi and for the potential outbreak of further violence throughout the region, particularly in Tunis, Tunisia; Tripoli, Libya; Cairo, Egypt; and Sana'a, Yemen. During these meetings, Secretary Panetta directs (provides verbal authorization) the following actions: 1) A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; 2) a EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to be Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group); and 3) a special operations force based in the United States is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to have been a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force"). During this period, actions were verbally conveyed from the Pentagon to the affected Combatant Commands in order to expedite movement of forces upon receipt of formal authorization. At 0239 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization for the 2 Marine Corps FAST platoons, and associated equipment, to prepare to deploy and for the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, to move to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0253 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization to deploy a special operations force, and associated equipment, from the United States to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0500 hours local time, a second, unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was also directed to relieve the initial asset still on station over Benghazi.
To meet the evacuating personnel in Tripoli, at 0605 hours local time, US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.
Crisis response activities continued during this period. At 0757 hours local time, the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, arrives at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0856, the FAST platoon, and associated equipment, arrived in Tripoli. At 0928, the special operations force deployed from the United States, and associated equipment, arrived at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. Naval Forces Europe's forward-stationed and rotational forces played a critical role in these parts of the response mission. The availability of Naval Air Station Sigonella, Italy, and Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, enabled US forces to be rapidly postured, employed, and sustained as tasking evolved over the course of the crisis response. US Navy and joint force operations could not have occurred without these bases and the direct support they provided. Additionally, the command flagship, USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), operating from international waters with the Commander, US Sixth Fleet, embarked, provided command and control, planning, and support coordination during the initial phase of the crisis. Mount Whitney was joined by the landing ship dock USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and the destroyers USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109), and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98) during the initial response. The USS Fort McHenry and USS McFaul continued to participate in the extended Operation Jukebox Lotus mission after the initial attack.
Crisis response elements remained in Libya into October 2012, and were deployed to other locations in the region in response to the potential for similar attacks elsewhere.
Operation Jukebox Lotus
Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.
The CIA has been busted lying so many times about violating the Constitution, breaking laws, and doing unethical shot their word is worthless.John Tiegen claims:
"When we got the phone call. It was 23 minutes from the time we got the call to the time we got over there. Our station chief told me to stand down. I got out of the car and put my two cents in it. We could actually see the consulate was on fire. We said, “Hey, we need to get over there. We’re losing the initiative.” The chief of base operations said to stand down because we needed to come up with a plan. I told him it was too late. We needed to get eyes on and come up with a plan on the move. The final straw was when the State guy got on the radio and said, “If you don’t get here now, we’re all going to [expletive] die. We need your help now.”
Tiegen told Congress that the Chief's exact words were, "Stand down, you need to wait. You need to make a plan."
Tiegen told Congress the Chief told him to "stand down"View attachment 215704 while they were standing on the front porch of the CIA Annex. Tiegen told Congress that the Deputy Chief and the Security Team Leader were there when the Chief told him to "stand down."
The Chief, the Deputy Chief and the Security Team Leader dispute Tiegen's "stand down" claim. The Chief denies he told Tiegen to "stand down." The Deputy Chief and the Security Team Leader say they didn't hear the Chief tell Tiegen to "stand down."
Again, I will believe a man who fought terrorists there on the ground before believing Obama loyalists and liars who were NOT in harm's way but left Americans in harm's way.
What the Obama administration once the red and final attack began pales in comparison to the fact that they had multiple chances to protect Americans and get them out before those attacks occurred...
...but they CHOSE to leave them there with virtually no security, outnumbered, indefensible, and with no official rescue team in case fecal matter hit the fan.
While other nations pulled their people out due to growing Al Qaeda presence and increasing terrorist violence, Hillary hired an Al Qaeda-associated militia and a security company who had never provided security in a hostile combat area and who had never carried weapons before to protect Americans in the heart of Al Qaeda-land...
Hillary took away some of those security personnel while the militia quit days just before the final attack...and none of this caused Hillary to think about pulling the Americans out knowing the anniversary of 9/11 was days away.
WTF?!
According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/
"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
.
You are mistaken.Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.
name themAccording to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/
"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
.
You are mistaken.Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.
All I know is that the evidence shows that Tig's claim that the CIA Chief issued a stand down order is hogwash.Yea that’s because that isn’t his call to make, that would be the presidents/administration’s call to make. The military doesn’t take orders from the CIA. They’ll collaborate a good bit with the CIA, secretary’s of defense might put an intel officer in partial charge of a unit to go after targets and what not...but a CIA chief can’t just give unilateral orders to a military carrier group around. Especially not when practically the entire presidential cabinet is controlling the situation from the situation room. Apparently, if I remember correctly, Obama claimed he went to bed at 5:30 pm, which just happened to be right before the attack, and he slept through the entire 13 hours.This is a great example of the logical fallacy called an appeal to ignorance. “Prove it’s 100% true, if not it is false”.I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349
Your apparent “liars of Benghazi” who were on the ground claim there was a stand down order. Just by your characterization of them right off the bat, your using another logical fallacy called an ad hominem (attacking a persons credentials or credibility instead of their claims), to suggest its a matter of he said she said.
What we do know with 100% certainty, there was a stand down order given to the carrier group right off of the coast. This group was prepared to send air assistance that would’ve arrived in 20 mins. They had a wide variety of options to provide assistance, including non-violent deterrence measures such as fly overs. We know that 2 of the defense contractors on the ground died using a laser designator to identify targets for air support that never came. We know that the excuses that were given by the administration about the situation that came out to be 100% false later. Excuses like this was all sparked by an obscure YouTube video that maybe was only viewed 1000 times. The supbeanoed emails showed this was the spin the administration decided to go with after the fact. We know the excuse given for the question of “how in the world was more help not provided at any point in this span of 13 hours that was requested on numerous occasions?” That excuse was the “fog of war”, a term that was pertinent in war pre satellite, drone, and advanced communication systems. We know that wasn’t the case since the administration was in constant contact with those on the ground, and had an around the clock drone flying overhead giving them all the visual data they needed in real time. We know that the help that was sent, the “liars of Benghazi”, were severely inadequate, and also claimed there was a stand down ordered they ignored. We also have all of the requests filed by the ambassador to send more security in the months leading up to this event. All of this and more point the arrow pretty strongly in the direction that the administration is guilty of some aggregious neglect, and tried to cover it up and put a more palatable spin on it.
So you’re going to run with the fact that there wasn’t a stenographer during the all conversations with chief of base as your “proof”?
The CIA commander in Benghazi never requested combat air support.
If you actually believe that he went to bed at 5:30, and no one else in the administration woke him up to inform him at any point during a 13 hour freaking attack on a US embassy, and that the rest of the cabinet just monitored the attack from the situation and let a CIA chief call all of the shots...boy do I have a bridge to sell you. Does any of that sound remotely plausible?
Benghazi was the moment I realized the mainstream media had become nothing but a propaganda arm for the left. Remember, this was right in the middle of a tight presidential campaign between Obama and Romney, when people were questioning the wisdom of destabilizing the entire Middle East after the glorious “Arab spring”. Wondering who was going to replace these leaders who weren’t good people, but might have been a situation of stick to the devil you know. And the MM pushed the story that made zero sense coming from the Whitehouse, and never questioned it once. I remember watching the coverage of it, and hearing about “this was all sparked over this YouTube video, had nothing to do with it being 9/11.” And “Obama was in bed the whole time, and didn’t hear about it until afterwards,” and “with the fog of war, we didn’t know the situation.” I couldn’t believe they actually had the gall to push such incredulous excuses, and that the CNNs and MSNBCs, etc, just reported what the whitehouse said like it was what actually what happened despite having loads of evidence to the contrary. I was like “are you kidding me, some obscure YouTube video that virtually no one saw, that was only a short trailer for a shitty homemade movie that was never made, by some random ass loser no one ever heard of caused all of this? Almost all the 1000 views it had just happened to be from the “random protesters” on the other side of the globe where there is barely any internet, that randomly just decided to show up armed to the teeth, and just happened to carry out their “protest” in a way that looked an awful lot like a coordinated attack with artillery that lasted 13 hours, and this all just happened to fall on 9/11? That makes zero sense whatsoever.” That’s what the media pushed, and If you questioned that narritive, the media just dismissed you as trying to politicize an unavoidable tragedy, or you were just a conspiracy theorist. That is, up until after the election when it came out that the narrative was indeed a lie, and the MM talked about that for a whole two minutes, and said it was old news, moving in. Even still to this day they claim that the right is just using benghazi for political points, as this OP beautifully illustrates.
name the two other men.All I know is that the evidence shows that Tig's claim that the CIA Chief issued a stand down order is hogwash.Yea that’s because that isn’t his call to make, that would be the presidents/administration’s call to make. The military doesn’t take orders from the CIA. They’ll collaborate a good bit with the CIA, secretary’s of defense might put an intel officer in partial charge of a unit to go after targets and what not...but a CIA chief can’t just give unilateral orders to a military carrier group around. Especially not when practically the entire presidential cabinet is controlling the situation from the situation room. Apparently, if I remember correctly, Obama claimed he went to bed at 5:30 pm, which just happened to be right before the attack, and he slept through the entire 13 hours.This is a great example of the logical fallacy called an appeal to ignorance. “Prove it’s 100% true, if not it is false”.I'll wager you $5,000,000, or a lower amount, if you don't have that much, that you can't prove by a preponderance of the credible evidence that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi ordered the CIA rescue team not to go assist the diplomatic mission that was under attack.View attachment 215349
Your apparent “liars of Benghazi” who were on the ground claim there was a stand down order. Just by your characterization of them right off the bat, your using another logical fallacy called an ad hominem (attacking a persons credentials or credibility instead of their claims), to suggest its a matter of he said she said.
What we do know with 100% certainty, there was a stand down order given to the carrier group right off of the coast. This group was prepared to send air assistance that would’ve arrived in 20 mins. They had a wide variety of options to provide assistance, including non-violent deterrence measures such as fly overs. We know that 2 of the defense contractors on the ground died using a laser designator to identify targets for air support that never came. We know that the excuses that were given by the administration about the situation that came out to be 100% false later. Excuses like this was all sparked by an obscure YouTube video that maybe was only viewed 1000 times. The supbeanoed emails showed this was the spin the administration decided to go with after the fact. We know the excuse given for the question of “how in the world was more help not provided at any point in this span of 13 hours that was requested on numerous occasions?” That excuse was the “fog of war”, a term that was pertinent in war pre satellite, drone, and advanced communication systems. We know that wasn’t the case since the administration was in constant contact with those on the ground, and had an around the clock drone flying overhead giving them all the visual data they needed in real time. We know that the help that was sent, the “liars of Benghazi”, were severely inadequate, and also claimed there was a stand down ordered they ignored. We also have all of the requests filed by the ambassador to send more security in the months leading up to this event. All of this and more point the arrow pretty strongly in the direction that the administration is guilty of some aggregious neglect, and tried to cover it up and put a more palatable spin on it.
So you’re going to run with the fact that there wasn’t a stenographer during the all conversations with chief of base as your “proof”?
The CIA commander in Benghazi never requested combat air support.
If you actually believe that he went to bed at 5:30, and no one else in the administration woke him up to inform him at any point during a 13 hour freaking attack on a US embassy, and that the rest of the cabinet just monitored the attack from the situation and let a CIA chief call all of the shots...boy do I have a bridge to sell you. Does any of that sound remotely plausible?
Benghazi was the moment I realized the mainstream media had become nothing but a propaganda arm for the left. Remember, this was right in the middle of a tight presidential campaign between Obama and Romney, when people were questioning the wisdom of destabilizing the entire Middle East after the glorious “Arab spring”. Wondering who was going to replace these leaders who weren’t good people, but might have been a situation of stick to the devil you know. And the MM pushed the story that made zero sense coming from the Whitehouse, and never questioned it once. I remember watching the coverage of it, and hearing about “this was all sparked over this YouTube video, had nothing to do with it being 9/11.” And “Obama was in bed the whole time, and didn’t hear about it until afterwards,” and “with the fog of war, we didn’t know the situation.” I couldn’t believe they actually had the gall to push such incredulous excuses, and that the CNNs and MSNBCs, etc, just reported what the whitehouse said like it was what actually what happened despite having loads of evidence to the contrary. I was like “are you kidding me, some obscure YouTube video that virtually no one saw, that was only a short trailer for a shitty homemade movie that was never made, by some random ass loser no one ever heard of caused all of this? Almost all the 1000 views it had just happened to be from the “random protesters” on the other side of the globe where there is barely any internet, that randomly just decided to show up armed to the teeth, and just happened to carry out their “protest” in a way that looked an awful lot like a coordinated attack with artillery that lasted 13 hours, and this all just happened to fall on 9/11? That makes zero sense whatsoever.” That’s what the media pushed, and If you questioned that narritive, the media just dismissed you as trying to politicize an unavoidable tragedy, or you were just a conspiracy theorist. That is, up until after the election when it came out that the narrative was indeed a lie, and the MM talked about that for a whole two minutes, and said it was old news, moving in. Even still to this day they claim that the right is just using benghazi for political points, as this OP beautifully illustrates.
According to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.name themAccording to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/
"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
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what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from themAccording to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.name themAccording to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/
"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
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You are mistaken.Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.
What a hack Obabble Apologist you are.
The records are full of requests by the Ambassador himself for more security. There are eyewitness accounts. The Libyans said it was a terrorist attack from the time it was ongoing.
And Obabble went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas and lied to the victims families.
Seriously. Try to grow a conscience.
You are mistaken.Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.
What a hack Obabble Apologist you are.
The records are full of requests by the Ambassador himself for more security. There are eyewitness accounts. The Libyans said it was a terrorist attack from the time it was ongoing.
And Obabble went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas and lied to the victims families.
Seriously. Try to grow a conscience.
Obama had already done all he could do, when, an hour after the attack started, he ordered General Dempsey to implement Operation Jukebox Lotus.
There have not been any prosecutions over Benghazi, dumbass, because no CRIMINAL investigations were ever held. They were all FACT-FINDING....but you're too stupid to understand that.There hasn't been any prosecutions for benghazi because republicans are so dumb and helpless that with a republican house, senate, and presidency they are lost. Republicans are the biggest morons ever, who the fuck votes for these idiots?
They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from themAccording to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.name themAccording to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.
The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."
The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759
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