No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

[evenflow1969]

Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!

First, find a spellcheck program.

More importantly, what are you going to sue a pharmaceutical company for doing? I do think that like cigarettes and hard alcohol, advertising of prescription drugs should be prohibited.

No, "everyone" is NOT responsible. Children are no longer held accountable for their behavior, nor are their parents. Instead of working to be parents or teachers, GIVE THEM A DRUG!

I hold the government more responsible than anyone. Beginning with the Lyndon Johnson War on Poverty and Great Society we began to reward bad behavior and punish good behavior. We punish married couples and reward single parents, we reward them even more if they have a child, two and even more reward. Although no one cares who raises the kids and who teaches them morals and builds their character.

Saying that we all share some responsibility is a coward way out of holding anyone responsible.

Ya, passing the buck on responsibility makes you a hero! Get bent!

Don't take my guns??? But you can take my children?? Republicans are bonkers

What the fuck are you smoking? No one said take our children. You better check your self before you reck your self!You look back thru past posts and you will find that me and Ray and Rustic argue more than we agree. What is different between us is we enjoy argueing and some times agreeing. We do not give a shit about spelling what we care about is the itteration of ideas. Through out the history of all our posts thru out the years we have been chatting not one of us has ever offered our children up for any thing! We do not tow a party line we have our own ideas. Go ahead and ask Ray and Rustic they are commonly on the other side as me! Some times we fall on the same side it's rare but it happens

But all NRA supporters are against anything that might help

Help, help what? I know poor people that still shoot a good percentage of their meat intake. I carried an M-16 around twenty four seven for what seemed like a never ending training period. I got tired of carrying it and cleaning it. Then training was over and I was sent some where that bullets fly. I can attest from experience that when the bullets start flying you want to be able to make some fly your self and hopefully stop them from flying in the other direction. So your solution is to take guns away. Offer a criminal penalty for the possesion of the weapons. These kids that are doing the school shootings are either dying or ending up in prison for life. The penalty for what they have done did not stop them from doing the act nor will a little jail time stop them from getting a gun. They were willing to die, 6 months in jail will stop nothing they will still get thier gun, do the dastardly deed and all you get is the loss of rights and loss of the ability to effect your own destiny! Until the cops have precognition they can opnly punish after the fact. This does not save yours or any ones lives!

 

[edward37]

First, find a spellcheck program.

More importantly, what are you going to sue a pharmaceutical company for doing? I do think that like cigarettes and hard alcohol, advertising of prescription drugs should be prohibited.

No, "everyone" is NOT responsible. Children are no longer held accountable for their behavior, nor are their parents. Instead of working to be parents or teachers, GIVE THEM A DRUG!

I hold the government more responsible than anyone. Beginning with the Lyndon Johnson War on Poverty and Great Society we began to reward bad behavior and punish good behavior. We punish married couples and reward single parents, we reward them even more if they have a child, two and even more reward. Although no one cares who raises the kids and who teaches them morals and builds their character.

Saying that we all share some responsibility is a coward way out of holding anyone responsible.

Ya, passing the buck on responsibility makes you a hero! Get bent!

Don't take my guns??? But you can take my children?? Republicans are bonkers

What the fuck are you smoking? No one said take our children. You better check your self before you reck your self!You look back thru past posts and you will find that me and Ray and Rustic argue more than we agree. What is different between us is we enjoy argueing and some times agreeing. We do not give a shit about spelling what we care about is the itteration of ideas. Through out the history of all our posts thru out the years we have been chatting not one of us has ever offered our children up for any thing! We do not tow a party line we have our own ideas. Go ahead and ask Ray and Rustic they are commonly on the other side as me! Some times we fall on the same side it's rare but it happens

But all NRA supporters are against anything that might help

Help, help what? I know poor people that still shoot a good percentage of their meat intake. I carried an M-16 around twenty four seven for what seemed like a never ending training period. I got tired of carrying it and cleaning it. Then training was over and I was sent some where that bullets fly. I can attest from experience that when the bullets start flying you want to be able to make some fly your self and hopefully stop them from flying in the other direction. So your solution is to take guns away. Offer a criminal penalty for the possesion of the weapons. These kids that are doing the school shootings are either dying or ending up in prison for life. The penalty for what they have done did not stop them from doing the act nor will a little jail time stop them from getting a gun. They were willing to die, 6 months in jail will stop nothing they will still get thier gun, do the dastardly deed and all you get is the loss of rights and loss of the ability to effect your own destiny! Until the cops have precognition they can opnly punish after the fact. This does not save yours or any ones lives!

TWENTY school shootings this year and it's not even June and there's a fight against checking mental health?? And BTW I do have a marksman medal around my house somewhere ,,Almost made sharpshooter

 

[JoeB131]

Other countries have moved on to machetes, acid, bombs, cars and hand grenades. Removing the weapon has no effect on the desire to kill, nor the capacity to kill. The Tsaranev brothers used no guns.

Yes, you got the NRA theme song just right, you just need to get it to rhyme.

Meanwhile, other countries have homicides in the hundreds, and we have them in the thousands.

 

[evenflow1969]

Ya, passing the buck on responsibility makes you a hero! Get bent!

Don't take my guns??? But you can take my children?? Republicans are bonkers

What the fuck are you smoking? No one said take our children. You better check your self before you reck your self!You look back thru past posts and you will find that me and Ray and Rustic argue more than we agree. What is different between us is we enjoy argueing and some times agreeing. We do not give a shit about spelling what we care about is the itteration of ideas. Through out the history of all our posts thru out the years we have been chatting not one of us has ever offered our children up for any thing! We do not tow a party line we have our own ideas. Go ahead and ask Ray and Rustic they are commonly on the other side as me! Some times we fall on the same side it's rare but it happens

But all NRA supporters are against anything that might help

Help, help what? I know poor people that still shoot a good percentage of their meat intake. I carried an M-16 around twenty four seven for what seemed like a never ending training period. I got tired of carrying it and cleaning it. Then training was over and I was sent some where that bullets fly. I can attest from experience that when the bullets start flying you want to be able to make some fly your self and hopefully stop them from flying in the other direction. So your solution is to take guns away. Offer a criminal penalty for the possesion of the weapons. These kids that are doing the school shootings are either dying or ending up in prison for life. The penalty for what they have done did not stop them from doing the act nor will a little jail time stop them from getting a gun. They were willing to die, 6 months in jail will stop nothing they will still get thier gun, do the dastardly deed and all you get is the loss of rights and loss of the ability to effect your own destiny! Until the cops have precognition they can opnly punish after the fact. This does not save yours or any ones lives!

TWENTY school shootings this year and it's not even June and there's a fight against checking mental health?? And BTW I do have a marksman medal around my house somewhere ,,Almost made sharpshooter

Well I would have to agree that defunding mental health was an absolutley stupid idea! If I had the solution to this problem I would offer it up in a New York minute. I do not have a solution, neither does any one else at this point or we would not be having this conversation. I just know the solution is not going to be giving up rights. Mental health is a good place to start, stop drugging our kids is another. I think the solution will be a multi pronged solution. I am not angry with you for considering the gun thing, I have considered it myself, as much as I would like for that to be a solution it is not. What I want to avoid is saying that people with differing opinions on a very complex issue are against kids and thier well being. No one on here Republican or Democrat wnats bad things for their kids. Waht I hope is that people keep spit balling and sooner or later we start to chip away at the problem!

 

[Nosmo King]

You don't know my viewpoint chump. The kid who just killed those people in Texas was a law abiding citizen until he started shooting.

Shit happens, and no amount of frivolous gun control laws will change that...

Funny how that "logic" is only applied to guns.

Funny how you think guns kill people on their own... that’s your logic

No. What's funny is your utter lack of imagination.

Any problem created by man can be solved by man. Right up until the money from the NRA is factored in. And then man becomes the problem.

You leftists are like a puppet on a string. The Democrat party created this phony boogie man and you people buy it hook, line and sinker. The truth of the matter is that we Republican constituents believe in the Constitution and in particular, gun rights. If the NRA closed up tomorrow, the party would not change it's position.

I doubt that. Without the money from the NRA and without the political scorecard they keep, Republicans would recognize the havoc of gun violence and respond responsibly.

 

[Imissbush]

Texas Lt Gov blamed abortion for school shootings! Ha ha.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How about “law abiding gun owners” secure their guns instead of leaving them lying around for their psycho kid to grab?

Dad should be charged .

You finally said something that makes sense

 

[Camp]

Being responsible for storing our guns in secure and responsible methods could be a major step in the right direction. It has nothing to do with banning, restricting or limiting. It just means we have to make 100% effort to secure our weapons from potential criminals and crazy people. When folks start paying huge law suites and criminal convictions for their negligence it could make a difference.

 

[Brain357]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How about “law abiding gun owners” secure their guns instead of leaving them lying around for their psycho kid to grab?

Dad should be charged .

You finally said something that makes sense

Dad should definitely be charged. We need to go after anyone who arms these killers, they clearly need an incentive to be more responsible with their arms.

 

[OldLady]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How about “law abiding gun owners” secure their guns instead of leaving them lying around for their psycho kid to grab?

Dad should be charged .

You finally said something that makes sense

Dad should definitely be charged. We need to go after anyone who arms these killers, they clearly need an incentive to be more responsible with their arms.

Didn't the courts overturn a law that gun owners needed to secure their weapons (I think it was in D.C.). The courts said you can't tell a man what to do inside his castle. So I don't think holding Dad accountable will fly in the long run.
TBH, I think the Dad will suffer for the rest of his life about this. Imagine if it were your kid who did this. It must be nearly insufferable.

 

[BluesLegend]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

 

[edward37]

Shit happens, and no amount of frivolous gun control laws will change that...

Funny how that "logic" is only applied to guns.

Funny how you think guns kill people on their own... that’s your logic

No. What's funny is your utter lack of imagination.

Any problem created by man can be solved by man. Right up until the money from the NRA is factored in. And then man becomes the problem.

You leftists are like a puppet on a string. The Democrat party created this phony boogie man and you people buy it hook, line and sinker. The truth of the matter is that we Republican constituents believe in the Constitution and in particular, gun rights. If the NRA closed up tomorrow, the party would not change it's position.

I doubt that. Without the money from the NRA and without the political scorecard they keep, Republicans would recognize the havoc of gun violence and respond responsibly.

Notice how Trump said he was for all the students at the Texas HS ?? EXCEPT when it comes time to do something

 

[Brain357]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How about “law abiding gun owners” secure their guns instead of leaving them lying around for their psycho kid to grab?

Dad should be charged .

You finally said something that makes sense

Dad should definitely be charged. We need to go after anyone who arms these killers, they clearly need an incentive to be more responsible with their arms.

Didn't the courts overturn a law that gun owners needed to secure their weapons (I think it was in D.C.). The courts said you can't tell a man what to do inside his castle. So I don't think holding Dad accountable will fly in the long run.
TBH, I think the Dad will suffer for the rest of his life about this. Imagine if it were your kid who did this. It must be nearly insufferable.

He is aiding a crime. He can store his guns how he wants in his castle, but if his kid kills people with his guns he should be prosecuted.

 

[Brain357]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

 

[edward37]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

Brain ,,,can you lend part of your brain to some of the brainless idiots here??

 

[BluesLegend]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

More people were murdered in London than in NY city, yet guns are banned in the UK.

 

[BluesLegend]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

Brain ,,,can you lend part of your brain to some of the brainless idiots here??

I'm sure that would help you.

 

[edward37]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

Brain ,,,can you lend part of your brain to some of the brainless idiots here??

I'm sure that would help you.

LOL Trump and I have HUGE brains

 

[BluesLegend]

No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

Doesn't matter, gun control advocates will still push for gun control which we all know is banning guns and getting rid of the 2nd amendment. They long for total gun bans like other countries have adopted.

When was the last school shooting in Germany, France, UK, Japan, Denmark.... yeah seems like gun laws can really restrict this kind of thing...

Brain ,,,can you lend part of your brain to some of the brainless idiots here??

I'm sure that would help you.

LOL Trump and I have HUGE brains

You walked right into that one I could not resist.

 

[OldLady]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How about “law abiding gun owners” secure their guns instead of leaving them lying around for their psycho kid to grab?

Dad should be charged .

You finally said something that makes sense

Dad should definitely be charged. We need to go after anyone who arms these killers, they clearly need an incentive to be more responsible with their arms.

Didn't the courts overturn a law that gun owners needed to secure their weapons (I think it was in D.C.). The courts said you can't tell a man what to do inside his castle. So I don't think holding Dad accountable will fly in the long run.
TBH, I think the Dad will suffer for the rest of his life about this. Imagine if it were your kid who did this. It must be nearly insufferable.

He is aiding a crime. He can store his guns how he wants in his castle, but if his kid kills people with his guns he should be prosecuted.

I'm not saying it's right one way or the other. I am just pointing out the latest ruling on securing your guns.