No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

[Rustic]

Ban schools, leave people's unalienable rights alone.

Wow, you guys are getting desperate, aren't you?

Most of us are getting tired of sharing our streets with gun-wielding crazy people. Fuck their "Rights".

And we carry guns because liberals don't want to keep crazy people locked up and off the streets.

Unfortunately it's people like you who want mentally unstable people and terrorists to be able to get guns.

When the nation wanted to ban terrorists from getting guns, the gun nuts screamed about it and the republicans in congress refused to pass legislation that will help keep guns out of the hands of terrorists.

Gun nuts had hissy fits when Obama signed an executive order making it more difficult for people with mental problems from getting guns. You all screamed that he was taking guns from people. Which is such an old and tired lie.

Then when trump came into office he reversed Obama's executive order. Resulting in trump making it easier for those with mental problems to get guns you gun nuts cheered him on and said he was doing the job you voted for him to do.

It's not democrats who kicked mental patients out of hospitals and slashed mental health programs. It was ronald reagan who opened the doors of our mental hospitals and allowed people to be kicked out. It's republicans who refuse to support mental health programs. Who screamed when democrats included mental health coverage in Obamacare.

It's conservatives who say it's mentally unstable people who do this violence but at the same time make sure it's easier for those people to get a gun and make it much harder for them to get the proper help they need.

So it's your own policies and laws that have made you believe you need to carry a gun.

Progressives do not understand the issue, so no one should listen to the stupid ass motherfuckers...

 

[Markle]

Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!

First, find a spellcheck program.

More importantly, what are you going to sue a pharmaceutical company for doing? I do think that like cigarettes and hard alcohol, advertising of prescription drugs should be prohibited.

No, "everyone" is NOT responsible. Children are no longer held accountable for their behavior, nor are their parents. Instead of working to be parents or teachers, GIVE THEM A DRUG!

I hold the government more responsible than anyone. Beginning with the Lyndon Johnson War on Poverty and Great Society we began to reward bad behavior and punish good behavior. We punish married couples and reward single parents, we reward them even more if they have a child, two and even more reward. Although no one cares who raises the kids and who teaches them morals and builds their character.

Saying that we all share some responsibility is a coward way out of holding anyone responsible.

 

[Nosmo King]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How long before you and your nutter buddies on this board start attacking the students, or have you and your nutter buddies already started attacking them?

As soon as the Santa Fe students stand up and say they no longer wish to be shot to death at school, the gun nuts will start calling them bad names.

 

[Markle]

again, a gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy. Most gun deaths are people shooting themselves or being shot by someone they know.

Why then are there so many violent crimes prevented by good people having a gun?

Are you including suicide in gun deaths of people shooting themselves? That's really fake news, is it not?

Please show your source and link to your claim that most people are shot by someone they know.

 

[Flopper]

Instead of Control Laws, Safety should be taught in every community. The weapons should be locked up in safes and trigger locks on. I think it is just as much the owner of the weapons, in this case the dad as it is the kids. We need to be pushing gun safety hard in the nation. Force people to store and lock their guns responsibly.

In some countries such as Switzerland, the gun owner is responsibility for his gun. If a person's gun is unsecured and stolen and used in a crime the gun owner shares responsibility for the act. If the parent allows a child with serious emotional problems or a criminal history access to guns and the child kills other kids, the parent will answer for his negligence. The Swiss don't have stiff gun control laws and there're plenty of guns but they expect the owners of those guns to act responsibly.

 

[Markle]

That's not what it is at all. It actually has much more to do with being male than either mental health or guns.

So according to you, we should have millions of mass shootings because there are millions of males. Brilliant!

How many of those shooters had mental problems? Serious mental problems. What about them?

 

[Rustic]

Instead of Control Laws, Safety should be taught in every community. The weapons should be locked up in safes and trigger locks on. I think it is just as much the owner of the weapons, in this case the dad as it is the kids. We need to be pushing gun safety hard in the nation. Force people to store and lock their guns responsibly.

In some countries such as Switzerland, the gun owner is responsibility for his gun. If a person's gun is unsecured and stolen and used in a crime the gun owner shares responsibility for the act. If the parent allows a child with serious emotional problems or a criminal history access to guns and the child kills other kids, the parent will answer for his negligence. The Swiss do have stiff control laws and there are plenty guns but they expect the owners of those guns act in responsibly.

...and more frivolous gun laws will not save a single soul...

 

[Flopper]

That's not what it is at all. It actually has much more to do with being male than either mental health or guns.

So according to you, we should have millions of mass shootings because there are millions of males. Brilliant!

How many of those shooters had mental problems? Serious mental problems. What about them?

There's a clear link between mental illness and mass shooting. 59% of the 185 public mass shootings that took place in the United States from 1900 through 2017 were carried out by people who had either been diagnosed with a mental disorder or demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior to the attack.
Actually, there is a clear link between mass shootings and mental illness

 

[Markle]

Of course gun control works. So does banning guns.

When was the last time you saw a fully automatic machine gun outside a museum or movie?

That law was passed in the 1930s. It's goal was to take all fully automatic weapons off the streets and not allow them to be sold in the nation again.

It worked. There are no fully automatic weapons being sold legally in America.

The same thing with sawed off shot guns. They've been illegal for decades.

Then there's the rest of the world. There's very strict laws on guns in just about every other nation in the world. They don't have mass shootings or very much gun violence.

Just saying that gun control doesn't work doesn't make that statement true.

It is not illegal to own a machine gun, nor is it illegal to purchase rounds for the gun and use them. So you're wrong about that one.

Yes, sawed-off shotguns are illegal.

How then was one used, with a pistol grip, in Texas a few days ago? Yep, gun control worked great on that, did it not?

True, some other countries have less gun violence. However, they have far more violent crime. Why?

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
By James Slack
UPDATED:18:14 EST, 2 July 2009

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 920 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Read more: The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Daily Mail Online

UK is violent crime capital of Europe

 

[Contumacious]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

How the fuck can a student walk into school carrying a shotgun?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

The powers that be have had, since at least 1999, the opportunity to protect the children, They are CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Markle]

Then you're putting a target on the teachers and pretty much guaranteeing that the teachers will be the first to be shot.

How would anyone know which teachers are armed?

The same way they know which homes are armed and avoid them?

 

[Markle]

Gun nuts had hissy fits when Obama signed an executive order making it more difficult for people with mental problems from getting guns. You all screamed that he was taking guns from people. Which is such an old and tired lie.

Then when trump came into office he reversed Obama's executive order. Resulting in trump making it easier for those with mental problems to get guns you gun nuts cheered him on and said he was doing the job you voted for him to do.

You really need to do a bit more research other than spewing what is fed to you by the DailyKos and MediaMatters.

The Executive order failed former President Barack Hussein Obama signed took away weapons of Social Security Disability recipients who needed help handling their financial affairs.

Please list for us all the mass murders where the perpetrator has fit that description. You can't.

 

[Markle]

How the fuck can a student walk into school carrying a shotgun?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

He wore a black trenchcoat to school each day, it was a sawed-off shotgun with a pistol grip. That means the stock was sawed off too. Very easy to conceal.

 

[Markle]

As soon as the Santa Fe students stand up and say they no longer wish to be shot to death at school, the gun nuts will start calling them bad names.

 

[IM2]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

 

[Markle]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

Given your viewpoint that the only solution is more laws punishing law-abiding people you are right. But then you knew that already did you not?

 

[IM2]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

Given your viewpoint that the only solution is more laws punishing law-abiding people you are right. But then you knew that already did you not?

You don't know my viewpoint chump. The kid who just killed those people in Texas was a law abiding citizen until he started shooting.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

Given your viewpoint that the only solution is more laws punishing law-abiding people you are right. But then you knew that already did you not?

You don't know my viewpoint chump. The kid who just killed those people in Texas was a law abiding citizen until he started shooting.

However your sarcasm was noted when you said there is nothing we can do about it. Some places are doing things about it. They are taking proactive measures that have had results. It's just that not everybody is willing to follow that lead.

 

[Rustic]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

Given your viewpoint that the only solution is more laws punishing law-abiding people you are right. But then you knew that already did you not?

You don't know my viewpoint chump. The kid who just killed those people in Texas was a law abiding citizen until he started shooting.

Shit happens, and no amount of frivolous gun control laws will change that...

 

[IM2]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....

Of course not. There's just nothing we can do about these shootings.

Given your viewpoint that the only solution is more laws punishing law-abiding people you are right. But then you knew that already did you not?

You don't know my viewpoint chump. The kid who just killed those people in Texas was a law abiding citizen until he started shooting.

However your sarcasm was noted when you said there is nothing we can do about it. Some places are doing things about it. They are taking proactive measures that have had results. It's just that not everybody is willing to follow that lead.

Really?