No frivolous gun control laws would have stopped this...

I guess you have not been to mecer county ohio!
Progressive controlled areas dominate the country for violence, In fact they breed it
Go hang out in Mercer county all republican and you can still get robbed in broad day light! A bunch of opium heads. Realy sad it use to be a great place to live!

I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
 
Specifically, what is your plausible solution?

1) Have strict licensing for gun ownership. This means the whole household, not just the gun owner.

2) Ban military grade weapons from private ownership.

3) Give police wider authority to confiscate guns in the name of public safety. If Little Billy says he wants to be a "professional School Shooter" on facebook, that should be grounds for taking his guns.

You see, you guys keep claiming it 'can't be done', ignoring that other countries have actually done it.
Other countries have moved on to machetes, acid, bombs, cars and hand grenades. Removing the weapon has no effect on the desire to kill, nor the capacity to kill. The Tsaranev brothers used no guns.

No one wants to do a single thing about the pathology of murder. Not one. They want the means of self defense and that's all. It goes no further than that. Why? Because the war the liberals are in has little to do with guns and more to do with the elimination of the greater enemy which is white Christians. As long as they are being killed, you will see the demand for gun control grow. Not to prevent further killings but to prevent an effective defense.
 
Progressive controlled areas dominate the country for violence, In fact they breed it
Go hang out in Mercer county all republican and you can still get robbed in broad day light! A bunch of opium heads. Realy sad it use to be a great place to live!

I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
Like I said it’s medicated kids in a socialist environment, results in crazies.
More frivolous gun control laws will not save a single soul.
We have no real freedom in this country because of socialism…
 
Specifically, what is your plausible solution?

1) Have strict licensing for gun ownership. This means the whole household, not just the gun owner.

2) Ban military grade weapons from private ownership.

3) Give police wider authority to confiscate guns in the name of public safety. If Little Billy says he wants to be a "professional School Shooter" on facebook, that should be grounds for taking his guns.

You see, you guys keep claiming it 'can't be done', ignoring that other countries have actually done it.
Other countries have moved on to machetes, acid, bombs, cars and hand grenades. Removing the weapon has no effect on the desire to kill, nor the capacity to kill. The Tsaranev brothers used no guns.

No one wants to do a single thing about the pathology of murder. Not one. They want the means of self defense and that's all. It goes no further than that. Why? Because the war the liberals are in has little to do with guns and more to do with the elimination of the greater enemy which is white Christians. As long as they are being killed, you will see the demand for gun control grow. Not to prevent further killings but to prevent an effective defense.
Actually in the Middle East terrorists much prefer bombs and vehicles over firearms any day. They are much more effective for their cars… Terror
 
Go hang out in Mercer county all republican and you can still get robbed in broad day light! A bunch of opium heads. Realy sad it use to be a great place to live!

I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
Like I said it’s medicated kids in a socialist environment, results in crazies.
More frivolous gun control laws will not save a single soul.
We have no real freedom in this country because of socialism…
Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!
 
I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
Like I said it’s medicated kids in a socialist environment, results in crazies.
More frivolous gun control laws will not save a single soul.
We have no real freedom in this country because of socialism…
Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!
Go to Walmart and show me a medicated kid I will show you a fucked up kid.
Forced Vaccines for everything under the sun, prescription drugs and the belief that the collective is always right is where we set now, Add in social media and smartphones.
That is the very essence of socialism… It’s going to break the damn somewhere.
 
Progressive controlled areas are the areas with the highest violent crime rate in the country. Conservative controlled areas have the lowest... in someplaces it is almost nonexistent.
Firearm ownership is highest in a red counties, those counties have the lowest violent crime rate in the country. Frivolous gun control laws are for stupid people to believe in...
I guess you have not been to mecer county ohio!
Progressive controlled areas dominate the country for violence, In fact they breed it
Go hang out in Mercer county all republican and you can still get robbed in broad day light! A bunch of opium heads. Realy sad it use to be a great place to live!

I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.

I've made deliveries in that area. I didn't see much wrong with it until I got into a large city. And according to the map I linked to, it's rated not all that bad. Maybe it's just because of where I live and I'm used to it. We have shootings in Cuyahoga county nearly every day, and sometimes several times a day. As far as getting robbed in broad daylight, that only happens once in a great while over here.
 
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
Like I said it’s medicated kids in a socialist environment, results in crazies.
More frivolous gun control laws will not save a single soul.
We have no real freedom in this country because of socialism…
Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!
Go to Walmart and show me a medicated kid I will show you are fucked up kid.
Forced Vaccines for everything under the sun, prescription drugs and the belief that the collective is always right is where we set now, Add in social media and smartphones phones.
That is the very essence of socialism… It’s going to break the damn somewhere.
Ya, and now with the smart phone these kids are trading these drugs like it is candy. My biggest worries for the future are not poitical! Drugs and smart phones have fucked our kids in ways not natural. All they know hopw to do is left swipe and right swipe. You are more likely to do drugs if you do not know how to do any fucking thing. I also think it makes it easier to shoot some one when you never look at some one in the eyes. All kids and many adults do today is fuck with that phone!
 
I guess you have not been to mecer county ohio!
Progressive controlled areas dominate the country for violence, In fact they breed it
Go hang out in Mercer county all republican and you can still get robbed in broad day light! A bunch of opium heads. Realy sad it use to be a great place to live!

I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.

I've made deliveries in that area. I didn't see much wrong with it until I got into a large city. And according to the map I linked to, it's rated not all that bad. Maybe it's just because of where I live and I'm used to it. We have shootings in Cuyahoga county nearly every day, and sometimes several times a day. As far as getting robbed in broad daylight, that only happens once in a great while over here.
Like any where it has it's areas. There is a public housing apartment complex off of meyers rd you want to stay away from. I am not there enough any more to tell you all the places to stay away from any more, but this much I can tell you. This is not the great place it used to be to live! When I lived there I never locked my doors. I would if I lioved there now!
 
Is the 'right' to bear arms 'alienated' when one travels to another country? What happened to this inherent 'right' if so?

In other countries, their Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have not yet been born.
This is true, socialism/communism will never produce independent thinkers. Also they have no right to firearms thus no right to any sort of freedom...
So says theTrumpette.
 
Is the 'right' to bear arms 'alienated' when one travels to another country? What happened to this inherent 'right' if so?

In other countries, their Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have not yet been born.
This is true, socialism/communism will never produce independent thinkers. Also they have no right to firearms thus no right to any sort of freedom...
So says theTrumpette.
Says the control freak
 
Yes. Better keep doing nothing (hope the next shooter targets a country music festival again. That was a classic).
 
In other countries, their Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have not yet been born.

True, the people who founded their countries weren't stupid.

And most people wouldn't do it. Criminals would love that situation. Nobody in a household being armed.

again, a gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy. Most gun deaths are people shooting themselves or being shot by someone they know.

Well little Billy was protected by the Promise Program. It was a program created by DumBama to help keep minorities out of trouble. Of course he couldn't just apply it to minorities, so school officials and even law enforcement ignored the warning signs that could have stopped that school shooting. Democrats getting paid to keep their mouth shut.

Right. Obama was making school officials not do their jobs right after he got done making your boss cancel your health insurance. Obama is hiding behind every bush. Watch out, Obama might pop out and get you!!!
 
Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....
England, Germany and France --countries comparable to the US--have murder rates many times lower than the US...and they have very strict gun control


And since you know the following, that their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low gun murder rates, since they had low gun murder rates when they were allowed to have guns......you are a troll for continuing to post this lie.

Gun murder in Britain was low all through their history with guns....their gun crime rate is now going up because their criminal culture is changing as their social welfare system has finally destroyed the values they needed to civilize their young men, and they have imported violent 3rd world criminals who are now using guns to protect their drug businesses.....

Gun control doesn't keep gun crime low, it simply prevents law abiding people from protecting themselves from crimnals.

We also know this because as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have all gone down.....showing you don't know what you are talking about...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
In other countries, their Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson have not yet been born.

True, the people who founded their countries weren't stupid.

And most people wouldn't do it. Criminals would love that situation. Nobody in a household being armed.

again, a gun in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy. Most gun deaths are people shooting themselves or being shot by someone they know.

Well little Billy was protected by the Promise Program. It was a program created by DumBama to help keep minorities out of trouble. Of course he couldn't just apply it to minorities, so school officials and even law enforcement ignored the warning signs that could have stopped that school shooting. Democrats getting paid to keep their mouth shut.

Right. Obama was making school officials not do their jobs right after he got done making your boss cancel your health insurance. Obama is hiding behind every bush. Watch out, Obama might pop out and get you!!!


That number is a lie joe....you have been shown over and over again the actual study that kellerman did to change that number when he was called out on it...and he still didn't get the number accurately.......

Public Health and Gun Control: A Review



Since at least the mid-1980s, Dr. Kellermann (and associates), whose work had been heavily-funded by the CDC, published a series of studies purporting to show that persons who keep guns in the home are more likely to be victims of homicide than those who don¹t.
In a 1986 NEJM paper, Dr. Kellermann and associates, for example, claimed their "scientific research" proved that defending oneself or one¹s family with a firearm in the home is dangerous and counter productive, claiming "a gun owner is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than an intruder."8
In a critical review and now classic article published in the March 1994 issue of the Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia (JMAG), Dr. Edgar Suter, Chairman of Doctors for Integrity in Policy Research (DIPR), found evidence of "methodologic and conceptual errors," such as prejudicially truncated data and the listing of "the correct methodology which was described but never used by the authors."5
Moreover, the gun control researchers failed to consider and underestimated the protective benefits of guns. Dr. Suter writes: "The true measure of the protective benefits of guns are the lives and medical costs saved, the injuries prevented, and the property protected ‹ not the burglar or rapist body count. Since only 0.1 - 0.2 percent of defensive uses of guns involve the death of the criminal, any study, such as this, that counts criminal deaths as the only measure of the protective benefits of guns will expectedly underestimate the benefits of firearms by a factor of 500 to 1,000."5
In 1993, in his landmark and much cited NEJM article (and the research, again, heavily funded by the CDC), Dr. Kellermann attempted to show again that guns in the home are a greater risk to the victims than to the assailants.4 Despite valid criticisms by reputable scholars of his previous works (including the 1986 study), Dr. Kellermann ignored the criticisms and again used the same methodology.
He also used study populations with disproportionately high rates of serious psychosocial dysfunction from three selected state counties, known to be unrepresentative of the general U.S. population.

For example,

53 percent of the case subjects had a history of a household member being arrested,

31 percent had a household history of illicit drug use, 32 percent had a household member hit or hurt in a family fight, and

17 percent had a family member hurt so seriously in a domestic altercation that prompt medical attention was required.


Moreover, both the case studies and control groups in this analysis had a very high incidence of financial instability.
In fact, in this study, gun ownership, the supposedly high risk factor for homicide was not one of the most strongly associated factors for being murdered.
Drinking, illicit drugs, living alone, history of family violence, living in a rented home were all greater individual risk factors for being murdered than a gun in the home. One must conclude there is no basis to apply the conclusions of this study to the general population.
All of these are factors that, as Dr. Suter pointed out, "would expectedly be associated with higher rates of violence and homicide."5 It goes without saying, the results of such a study on gun homicides, selecting this sort of unrepresentative population sample, nullify the authors' generalizations, and their preordained, conclusions can not be extrapolated to the general population.
Moreover, although the 1993 New England Journal of Medicine study purported to show that the homicide victims were killed with a gun ordinarily kept in the home, the fact is that as Kates and associates point out 71.1 percent of the victims were killed by assailants who did not live in the victims¹ household using guns presumably not kept in that home.6
 
The Va. Tech shooter killed about 30 people and he was so insane at the time that professors were afraid to be alone with him. Two female students reported him for stalking and the school referred it to the local police who referred it back to the school. It's important to get a handle on insanity, especially among kids. Does the Dept. Ed.still authorize doping school kids with personality altering drugs? The Columbine shooters were on prescription drugs that often cause unintended side effects especially among kids going through puberty. Apparently this kid indicated his intention to commit murder and suicide but nobody was paying attention and fellow students might not have taken it seriously.
 
Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....
England, Germany and France --countries comparable to the US--have murder rates many times lower than the US...and they have very strict gun control


You don't know what you are talking about...

Does Gun Control Reduce Murder? Let’s Run The Numbers Globally



Let’s look at the countries with the highest concentrations of gun ownership (excluding Yemen and Iraq as active war zones). Guns per murder in those countries are,

  1. United States at 20,967,
  2. Uruguay at 3,777,
  3. Norway at 55,893,
  4. France at 19,747,
  5. Austria at 59,608,
  6. Germany at 35,647,
  7. Switzerland at 35,435,
  8. New Zealand at 24,835, and
  9. Greece at 26,471.
Norway is a particularly interesting example. It has 10 times the gun ownership rate of the United Kingdom, but only half the murder rate.

When one excludes Iraq and Yemen, not one of the countries on the list of the 10 highest rates of gun ownership also appears on the list of the top ten highest murder rates. In fact, the countries with the highest murder rates have markedly low gun ownership rates.

  1. El Savador (108.64 murders per 100,000/5800 guns per 100,000)
  2. Honduras (63.75/6200)
  3. Venezuela (57.15/10,700)
  4. Jamaica (43.21/8,100)
  5. Lesotho (38/2,700)
  6. Belize (34.4/10,000)
  7. South Africa (34.27/12,700)
  8. Guatemala (31.21/13,100)
  9. Trinidad (30.88/1,600)
  10. Bahamas (29.81/5,300)
It really doesn’t matter how you slice this data.

The conclusion is inescapable: High concentrations of private, legal gun ownership do not correlate positively to increased murders. Indeed, you can look at almost any slice of data and conclude the opposite: Higher private ownership of guns can be strongly correlated to lower murder rates.

The data also exposes some myths I have heard about gun control. For example, I’ve heard activists tout Australia, which supposedly banned all guns. Australia has advanced a number of gun control measures over the years. Nevertheless, according to the data, Australia has a rate of private ownership of guns of 13,100 per 100,000 and a murder rate of .98.

Australia has almost twice as many guns per capita as the United Kingdom, for example, and a comparable murder rate. New Zealand has almost twice as many guns per capita as Australia but a lower crime rate.

Countries with both a low rate of private gun ownership and a low murder rate exist, but they are clearly data outliers. These include the Netherlands (3,900 guns per 100,000, for a murder rate of .61) the United Kingdom (6,200 guns per 100,000, for a murder rate of .92), Japan, and Portugal. Places like Norway, Austria, Switzerland, and Germany overwhelm those examples because they all have high rates of gun ownership and enviable crime rates.

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The ratio of murders per gun works as a decent measure for how responsible a country’s citizens are with their firearms. Measured in this light, an owner of a private legal gun in America measures as one of the most responsible in the world. A gun in America is 387 times less likely to be used in a murder than in El Salvador. Even in Japan, which has one of the lowest murder and gun ownership rates in the world, there are ten times as many murders per gun than in America.
 
Dimitrios Pagourtzis Identified As Sante Fe High School Shooter


“Governor Greg Abbott confirmed Pagourtzis used a shotgun and .38 revolver in the shooting that belonged to his father.”

Gun control does not work....



Of course gun control works. So does banning guns.

When was the last time you saw a fully automatic machine gun outside a museum or movie?

That law was passed in the 1930s. It's goal was to take all fully automatic weapons off the streets and not allow them to be sold in the nation again.

It worked. There are no fully automatic weapons being sold legally in America.

The same thing with sawed off shot guns. They've been illegal for decades.

Then there's the rest of the world. There's very strict laws on guns in just about every other nation in the world. They don't have mass shootings or very much gun violence.

Just saying that gun control doesn't work doesn't make that statement true.
 
I never heard of it before, so I looked it up. Seems like you are making it sound worse than it is, especially if you want to compare it to Democrat areas:

Rankings
Go hang out there you will see. If you are in Cleveland it is not a far drive. I am heart broken the way it is. I grew up there it was some of the best hunting and fishing in the state. You would not believe the size of the deer due to all the corn feilds. You look at the statistics they publish which are bull shit! My mother was a big wig at Human services and was privy to some stats the locals fooled with. Like the fact that there was seventy five rapes commited in a bathroom at east view park. This was not made public and it continued. They finaly caught the guy who had done most of them, but till then they just let mothers send their children into that bathroom. Isee the the face book pleas for prayers of my freinds children that are currently in rehab, i see next to no one in their twenties up town on a friday night because they are laying waisted in some garage on the west side lying in thier own puke.
Firearms have never been the problem, socialist behavior always seems to have its roots into violence.
Unfortunately life aint that simple. Socialism can not be the problem where no socialist exist!
PS it aint the guns either! It is the idiot holding the gun that is at issue! You have noticed I am pro gun rights, right!
Like I said it’s medicated kids in a socialist environment, results in crazies.
More frivolous gun control laws will not save a single soul.
We have no real freedom in this country because of socialism…
Unfortunaetly both sides have contributed to the drugging of our children. I blame pharma for that! You can believe this when I tell ya, pharma has spread the money to boith sides of the fence on that one! We have some bi-partisian support to sue pharma in Ohio right now. I believe this is a step in the right direction to sorting this mess out. Unfortunbately we can all look in the mirror and take some responsibilty for this one. Parents, teachers and the governemt has failed thier children on this one. We were all here and share some responsibilty!

BINGO! :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
The Va. Tech shooter killed about 30 people and he was so insane at the time that professors were afraid to be alone with him. Two female students reported him for stalking and the school referred it to the local police who referred it back to the school. It's important to get a handle on insanity, especially among kids. Does the Dept. Ed.still authorize doping school kids with personality altering drugs? The Columbine shooters were on prescription drugs that often cause unintended side effects especially among kids going through puberty. Apparently this kid indicated his intention to commit murder and suicide but nobody was paying attention and fellow students might not have taken it seriously.

That's not what it is at all. It actually has much more to do with being male than either mental health or guns.
 

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