C_Clayton_Jones
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But would have been just as stupid and wrong.i think if Trump had said "lack of American roots" if would have gone differently.
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But would have been just as stupid and wrong.i think if Trump had said "lack of American roots" if would have gone differently.
It took Donald Trump 5 years to reject the Birther nonsense.
It took Hillary Clinton 5 minutes.
Sorry Trump. Lies don't work in the age of youtube and the internet.
No, Hillary Clinton did not - CNNPolitics.com
Post all the lies you want. Her 2008 campaign chairman ADMITTED it came from one of his staffers - who was immediately fired. Nice try.
Right, so it came from a rogue staffer who was canned immediately. But is that the same thing as claiming it came from Hillary Clinton? Come on now, use your 3 brain cells to answer the question. I know it's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt REAL BAD for you to use your tiny pea brain, but just try.
Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Sorry Trump. Lies don't work in the age of youtube and the internet.
No, Hillary Clinton did not - CNNPolitics.com
Your liberal indoctrination is complete.....Sorry Trump. Lies don't work in the age of youtube and the internet.
No, Hillary Clinton did not - CNNPolitics.com
I disagree. Lies are very effective. Say the same lie twice and RWNJ traitors will believe it for the rest of their lives.
Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
Again, can you prove that Hillary Clinton authorized that action by Blumenthal? Can you actually prove it? Can you provide Hillary quotes showing she questioned his country of origin?I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Wrong....again......sydney blumenthal was actively pushing the birther story to the press.....he is the chief minion of hilary.......he takes orders from her.....to think otherwise is to be foolish....
Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.Again, can you prove that Hillary Clinton authorized that action by Blumenthal? Can you actually prove it? Can you provide Hillary quotes showing she questioned his country of origin?I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Wrong....again......sydney blumenthal was actively pushing the birther story to the press.....he is the chief minion of hilary.......he takes orders from her.....to think otherwise is to be foolish....
If you can't, then no, you can't say she was behind it. You can certainly say she tried to profit from it, but you can't say she did it. Campaigns are like administrations: Sometimes folks go off reservation. Sometimes they do it intentionally so that they can provide their boss with deniability. It happens.
Saying she's responsible for her underlings every single thought word and action is a very high standard. By that standard Dick Cheney should have served jail time right next to Scooter Libby. Ronald Reagan should have been impeached after Iran Contra.
Or, let's look at Trump. It takes almost no effort to connect Trump to Manafort to Russia which connects Trump to the hacked emails. Should Trump himself face investigation for the criminal charges?
You want to make the claim Hillary was behind it, back it up. Otherwise you're making unproven accusations. You're as bad as the reporter last week who tweeted that he "believed" Trump spent time in a Mental Hospital. Or the news organizations that alleged Melania was here illegally.
Donald can't resist these crackpot conspiracy theories.It took Donald Trump 5 years to reject the Birther nonsense.
It took Hillary Clinton 5 minutes.
https://thinkprogress.org/12-fringe...be-the-next-president-9adb84b25418#.t9ggx9m20
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- Obama was born in Kenya
- Obama is really a Muslim
- Obama never attended Columbia University
- The Clintons may have murdered Vince Foster
- Scalia was murdered
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Good stuff muppets. Keep the alt-right conspiracy theories coming...they're hilarious
Yeah you are getting your ass kicked so you just call everyone Alt Right and think it works. You are a liar. Hillary is the mother and father of the birther movement and all your lies cannot change that fact.
Oh, this I agree with. And it's why I have no sympathy for the fact that Trump appears to be getting away with hanging the Birther crap around Hillary's neck like a damn albatross. This is one piece of karma that was a long time coming.Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.Again, can you prove that Hillary Clinton authorized that action by Blumenthal? Can you actually prove it? Can you provide Hillary quotes showing she questioned his country of origin?I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Wrong....again......sydney blumenthal was actively pushing the birther story to the press.....he is the chief minion of hilary.......he takes orders from her.....to think otherwise is to be foolish....
If you can't, then no, you can't say she was behind it. You can certainly say she tried to profit from it, but you can't say she did it. Campaigns are like administrations: Sometimes folks go off reservation. Sometimes they do it intentionally so that they can provide their boss with deniability. It happens.
Saying she's responsible for her underlings every single thought word and action is a very high standard. By that standard Dick Cheney should have served jail time right next to Scooter Libby. Ronald Reagan should have been impeached after Iran Contra.
Or, let's look at Trump. It takes almost no effort to connect Trump to Manafort to Russia which connects Trump to the hacked emails. Should Trump himself face investigation for the criminal charges?
You want to make the claim Hillary was behind it, back it up. Otherwise you're making unproven accusations. You're as bad as the reporter last week who tweeted that he "believed" Trump spent time in a Mental Hospital. Or the news organizations that alleged Melania was here illegally.
If one of my construction inspectors starts forging data, or misreporting something, I am still responsible for it. I cannot wipe away my accountability for the actions of those under me or associated with me. We have a line in Construction, "It may not be your fault, but it is still your problem"
Saying Hillary didn't start it may be accurate in the sense that she never leaked it to anyone, or commented on it, but there has been more and more evidence that her surrogates were going full bore with it when she realized Obama had the momentum she was expecting as the first serious female primary candidate for President.
<i><b><font color="red">MCCLATCHY NEWS: HILLARY HATCHETMAN SID "THE SHIV" BLUMENTHAL PUSHED THE OBAMA BIRTHER STORY ON US SO HARD WE SENT PEOPLE TO AFRICA TO INVESTIGATE</i></b></font>
it's a he said, he said....Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.Again, can you prove that Hillary Clinton authorized that action by Blumenthal? Can you actually prove it? Can you provide Hillary quotes showing she questioned his country of origin?I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Wrong....again......sydney blumenthal was actively pushing the birther story to the press.....he is the chief minion of hilary.......he takes orders from her.....to think otherwise is to be foolish....
If you can't, then no, you can't say she was behind it. You can certainly say she tried to profit from it, but you can't say she did it. Campaigns are like administrations: Sometimes folks go off reservation. Sometimes they do it intentionally so that they can provide their boss with deniability. It happens.
Saying she's responsible for her underlings every single thought word and action is a very high standard. By that standard Dick Cheney should have served jail time right next to Scooter Libby. Ronald Reagan should have been impeached after Iran Contra.
Or, let's look at Trump. It takes almost no effort to connect Trump to Manafort to Russia which connects Trump to the hacked emails. Should Trump himself face investigation for the criminal charges?
You want to make the claim Hillary was behind it, back it up. Otherwise you're making unproven accusations. You're as bad as the reporter last week who tweeted that he "believed" Trump spent time in a Mental Hospital. Or the news organizations that alleged Melania was here illegally.
If one of my construction inspectors starts forging data, or misreporting something, I am still responsible for it. I cannot wipe away my accountability for the actions of those under me or associated with me. We have a line in Construction, "It may not be your fault, but it is still your problem"
Saying Hillary didn't start it may be accurate in the sense that she never leaked it to anyone, or commented on it, but there has been more and more evidence that her surrogates were going full bore with it when she realized Obama had the momentum she was expecting as the first serious female primary candidate for President.
<i><b><font color="red">MCCLATCHY NEWS: HILLARY HATCHETMAN SID "THE SHIV" BLUMENTHAL PUSHED THE OBAMA BIRTHER STORY ON US SO HARD WE SENT PEOPLE TO AFRICA TO INVESTIGATE</i></b></font>
Oh, this I agree with. And it's why I have no sympathy for the fact that Trump appears to be getting away with hanging the Birther crap around Hillary's neck like a damn albatross. This is one piece of karma that was a long time coming.Did Hillary address Birtherism in 2008? No. But it's hard feeling sorry for her as Trump hangs the whole thing on her. She tried hard as hell to capitalize on it when she was running against Obama back in 2008. And failed.
Trump though shouldn't get to duck this. He was the crazy person in the room about this issue long past the point everyone stopped caring or believing. His birther crusade is the reason Hillary has been so successful hanging a lot of racist allegations on Trump.
No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.Again, can you prove that Hillary Clinton authorized that action by Blumenthal? Can you actually prove it? Can you provide Hillary quotes showing she questioned his country of origin?I said she never publicly addressed it. Different thing. Unless you have a quote by her saying she questioned his nation of birth? Do you?No....she did start the birther movement....sydney blumenthal and her campaign director pushed the story to the press....and neither one of the acts without direct orders from hilary....
you are wrong.
I did say that she tried hard as hell to capitalize on it, regardless of source. You'll never be able to prove it came directly from her orders because that's how these things always work. But she clearly did try to profit from this as hard as she could.
Hence my comment. I don't feel bad for her at all that Trump is trying to hang this all on her. I'm not giving Trump a pass on this though and neither should anyone else. For a man super reluctant to be transparent in his personal records, he sure did enjoy the press he got demanding Obama's birth certificate.
Wrong....again......sydney blumenthal was actively pushing the birther story to the press.....he is the chief minion of hilary.......he takes orders from her.....to think otherwise is to be foolish....
If you can't, then no, you can't say she was behind it. You can certainly say she tried to profit from it, but you can't say she did it. Campaigns are like administrations: Sometimes folks go off reservation. Sometimes they do it intentionally so that they can provide their boss with deniability. It happens.
Saying she's responsible for her underlings every single thought word and action is a very high standard. By that standard Dick Cheney should have served jail time right next to Scooter Libby. Ronald Reagan should have been impeached after Iran Contra.
Or, let's look at Trump. It takes almost no effort to connect Trump to Manafort to Russia which connects Trump to the hacked emails. Should Trump himself face investigation for the criminal charges?
You want to make the claim Hillary was behind it, back it up. Otherwise you're making unproven accusations. You're as bad as the reporter last week who tweeted that he "believed" Trump spent time in a Mental Hospital. Or the news organizations that alleged Melania was here illegally.
If one of my construction inspectors starts forging data, or misreporting something, I am still responsible for it. I cannot wipe away my accountability for the actions of those under me or associated with me. We have a line in Construction, "It may not be your fault, but it is still your problem"
Saying Hillary didn't start it may be accurate in the sense that she never leaked it to anyone, or commented on it, but there has been more and more evidence that her surrogates were going full bore with it when she realized Obama had the momentum she was expecting as the first serious female primary candidate for President.
<i><b><font color="red">MCCLATCHY NEWS: HILLARY HATCHETMAN SID "THE SHIV" BLUMENTHAL PUSHED THE OBAMA BIRTHER STORY ON US SO HARD WE SENT PEOPLE TO AFRICA TO INVESTIGATE</i></b></font>
I just also am not willing to pardon Trump on this. Even if you believe Hillary started it, Trump's the one that kept it in the public eye long after most Americans stopped caring.
Good stuff muppets. Keep the alt-right conspiracy theories coming...they're hilarious
Yeah you are getting your ass kicked so you just call everyone Alt Right and think it works. You are a liar. Hillary is the mother and father of the birther movement and all your lies cannot change that fact.
How's that? Please show me where I'm 'getting my ass kicked,' cuz this I gotta see...
Since no one here is proving that Hillary herself started the birther movement, I don't have to actually do anything. I've already posted evidence that she didn't, and not one of you drooling imbeciles can disprove it, you certainly can't discuss this topic without posting something from Breitbart, the platform of the alt-right, so stop whining.