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Genesis 19:30-38


Lot and His Daughters

30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37 And the firstborn bare a son, and called his nameMoab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Ben-ammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.



These are the values we should be living by? Incest?
 
Was it really wine

Or Everclear?

By the way, does the Bible ever talk about mead or beer?Or is everything with alcohol considered 'wine'?
 
Lot and Noah were winos, got so drunk on it they didn't know what happened. What a disgusting story. But hey Lot was going to give his virgin daughters to the men of S & G, yes two of Gods righteous.
 
I think the purpose of these "situations" is to demonstrate that God's prophets/chosen are not necessarily perfect.

It helps build psychological defense against false prophets.
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.
 
Genesis 19:30-38


Lot and His Daughters

30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37 And the firstborn bare a son, and called his nameMoab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Ben-ammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.



These are the values we should be living by? Incest?
This is the same guy who offered those daughters to the townspeople of Sodom (I thought they were gay) so they'd just leave him alone. Nice guy....nice values...and THAT's the one their god saved.
 
Remember, Lot was the guy who was so righteous that God had to save him.
The LORD did that for Abraham's sake, not Lot's.

variable----when I was in school---both primary thru undergraduate------LITERATURE class (from first grade 'reading" ----thru college 'freshman and soph. required LIT' ---
was kinda ------'separated' in accordance with 'ability' One
of my fondest memories is ninth grade Literature class---quite
sophisticated thanks to the teacher and thanks to that policy of 'separation'------the idiots had their own classes. I somehow ----especially based on the postings here in this thread and the "ability" of the various posters to deal with
literature----find-that our very dear fellow posters----joe and penelope-----were---somehow---not in the "advanced" classes or what they later called "honors" english. -------
ever wonder what it must have been like to know you are in the IDIOT class----ALWAYS?
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

one can tell lots about penelope and her abiity to interpret fine literature from the shit she flings into cyberspace. No wonder she never read a book and pretends she "knows" by parroting idiot propaganda bits
 
Remember, Lot was the guy who was so righteous that God had to save him.
The LORD did that for Abraham's sake, not Lot's.

variable----when I was in school---both primary thru undergraduate------LITERATURE class (from first grade 'reading" ----thru college 'freshman and soph. required LIT' ---
was kinda ------'separated' in accordance with 'ability' One
of my fondest memories is ninth grade Literature class---quite
sophisticated thanks to the teacher and thanks to that policy of 'separation'------the idiots had their own classes. I somehow ----especially based on the postings here in this thread and the "ability" of the various posters to deal with
literature----find-that our very dear fellow posters----joe and penelope-----were---somehow---not in the "advanced" classes or what they later called "honors" english. -------
ever wonder what it must have been like to know you are in the IDIOT class----ALWAYS?
I can't quite say the same for myself. Went to some backwoods public school in Arkansas and nearly flunked out of high school. I only had enough credits to graduate by taking a class in the summer after the end of twelfth grade. Oh, and you will never guess what the class was. Of course you guessed it, English. Did a report on the effects of an ICBM hitting a city. I managed to get myself out of having to take any English classes for the last two years of college. I only took the basics in community college. And I know no foreign languages. Completely and totally unqualified to read the Bible at all. Then again maybe that is why I can relate.

I do dislike you referring to the Bible as literature. It is so much more that a comparison belittles it.
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

Well he wrote the first commandments Moses then destroyed having a hissy fit. :)


God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

one can tell lots about penelope and her abiity to interpret fine literature from the shit she flings into cyberspace. No wonder she never read a book and pretends she "knows" by parroting idiot propaganda bits

What is the moral of the story of incest with drunken father and having children. Tell me ? Enlighten us to the morality of , getting your father so drunk to have sex with him and get PG. Please I will be waiting. Tell also why this is fine literature and not filth and porn, worst than porn , incest.
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

Well he wrote the first commandments Moses then destroyed having a hissy fit. :)


God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

one can tell lots about penelope and her abiity to interpret fine literature from the shit she flings into cyberspace. No wonder she never read a book and pretends she "knows" by parroting idiot propaganda bits

What is the moral of the story of incest with drunken father and having children. Tell me ? Enlighten us to the morality of , getting your father so drunk to have sex with him and get PG. Please I will be waiting. Tell also why this is fine literature and not filth and porn, worst than porn , incest.
A catholic lecturing on morals is kind of an oxymoron, wouldn't you think? To say absolutely nothing of a muslim lecturing on morals.
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

Well he wrote the first commandments Moses then destroyed having a hissy fit. :)


God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

one can tell lots about penelope and her abiity to interpret fine literature from the shit she flings into cyberspace. No wonder she never read a book and pretends she "knows" by parroting idiot propaganda bits

What is the moral of the story of incest with drunken father and having children. Tell me ? Enlighten us to the morality of , getting your father so drunk to have sex with him and get PG. Please I will be waiting. Tell also why this is fine literature and not filth and porn, worst than porn , incest.
A catholic lecturing on morals is kind of an oxymoron, wouldn't you think? To say absolutely nothing of a muslim lecturing on morals.

There is nothing moral in the OT, incest, deception, sex slaves and slaves, adultery, murder, genocide, idolatry, RACISM, etc. I'm sure I forgot a few things, but you get my drift. Stealing another big one.
 
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There is nothing moral in the OT, incest, deception, sex slaves and slaves, adultery, murder, genocide, idolatry, RACISM, etc. I'm sure I forgot a few things, but you get my drift. Stealing another big one.

how do you know? you never read the book BTW ---even your little excerpt which you cited as being from the "CJB" translation is so badly translated that I googled 'cjb'----yup---
really bad translation----it is more like very loosely and inaccurately paraphrasing. Is that the translation islamo Nazi pig publications use? you are making a fool of yourself
parroting propaganda -----someday you might read a bit
 
God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

Well he wrote the first commandments Moses then destroyed having a hissy fit. :)


God didn't write the OT, one can tell a lot more about the people who did than about God, or their God.

one can tell lots about penelope and her abiity to interpret fine literature from the shit she flings into cyberspace. No wonder she never read a book and pretends she "knows" by parroting idiot propaganda bits

What is the moral of the story of incest with drunken father and having children. Tell me ? Enlighten us to the morality of , getting your father so drunk to have sex with him and get PG. Please I will be waiting. Tell also why this is fine literature and not filth and porn, worst than porn , incest.
A catholic lecturing on morals is kind of an oxymoron, wouldn't you think? To say absolutely nothing of a muslim lecturing on morals.

There is nothing moral in the OT, incest, deception, sex slaves and slaves, adultery, murder, genocide, idolatry, RACISM, etc. I'm sure I forgot a few things, but you get my drift. Stealing another big one.
Have your avatar put some clothes on and then talk.
 

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