No Missiles For Hezbollah

[MJB12741]

Aha. So tell us Princess what is the 90% hatred toward Israel by its enemies from?

But, Sir Loin, regardless of the hate Hindus and Muslims (I don't think there would be many Buddhists in Pakistan) might have for each other, it seems Muslims around the world (even if they have never seen a Jew in their lives) are taught to hate the Jews and Israel, and a suitcase bomb can do a lot of damage

90% of the hatred towards Israel, has to do with the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian's.

 

[MJB12741]

I have to agree that Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to Palestinians deserves Palestinian hatred toward Israel. All the Palestinians want is to be free from Israel's bondage. If there is ever to be a lasting peace, Israel must learn from king Hussein how to treat Palestinians to achieve a lasting peace. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Aha. So tell us Princess what is the 90% hatred toward Israel by its enemies from?

But, Sir Loin, regardless of the hate Hindus and Muslims (I don't think there would be many Buddhists in Pakistan) might have for each other, it seems Muslims around the world (even if they have never seen a Jew in their lives) are taught to hate the Jews and Israel, and a suitcase bomb can do a lot of damage

90% of the hatred towards Israel, has to do with the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian's.

 

[toastman]

But, Sir Loin, regardless of the hate Hindus and Muslims (I don't think there would be many Buddhists in Pakistan) might have for each other, it seems Muslims around the world (even if they have never seen a Jew in their lives) are taught to hate the Jews and Israel, and a suitcase bomb can do a lot of damage

90% of the hatred towards Israel, has to do with the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian's.

And Pakistan is Hindu, right ?

 

[MJB12741]

That was so funny. Amazing what we can learn from Princess.

But, Sir Loin, regardless of the hate Hindus and Muslims (I don't think there would be many Buddhists in Pakistan) might have for each other, it seems Muslims around the world (even if they have never seen a Jew in their lives) are taught to hate the Jews and Israel, and a suitcase bomb can do a lot of damage

90% of the hatred towards Israel, has to do with the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian's.

And Pakistan is Hindu, right ?

 

[MJB12741]

And then there was his statement "there is no nuclear Muslim country."

That was so funny. Amazing what we can learn from Princess.

90% of the hatred towards Israel, has to do with the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian's.

And Pakistan is Hindu, right ?

 

[toastman]

And then there was his statement "there is no nuclear Muslim country."

That was so funny. Amazing what we can learn from Princess.

And Pakistan is Hindu, right ?

Two outrageous statements in the same thread. LOL.
Life in the I/P forum would be so boring if we didn't have these pro - Palestinians to entertain us !

 

[MJB12741]

I agree. What a relief they give us from having to deal with the real world of radical Islamic terrorists they support who are killing us infidels all over the world today.

And then there was his statement "there is no nuclear Muslim country."

That was so funny. Amazing what we can learn from Princess.

Two outrageous statements in the same thread. LOL.
Life in the I/P forum would be so boring if we didn't have these pro - Palestinians to entertain us !

 

[MJB12741]

How come good Christians like Sherri don't accept the Bible as being relevant to history?

 

[georgephillip]

90% of the hatred has to do with hidden-Antisemitism.

And that's a fact.

Most of those haters cannot even point out Sderot on the map, but they all sing the "apartheid" song!

Hypocrites!

"Sderot was founded in 1951 as a transit camp for Kurdish and Persian Jewish immigrants who lived in tents and shacks during the Jewish exodus from Muslim countries before permanent housing was completed in 1954.[6] It was built on lands once belonging to the Palestinian Arab village of Najd[7] and is located a few miles south of the village's ruins."

Your racist, apartheid state is built on Arab ruins.
Soon you will find out exactly how that felt.

Sderot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MJB12741]

In all of the Middle East, only in Israel are all houses of worship protected by the government. If this were not true, maybe Sherri or George will be so kind to tell us why the Al Asqa Mosque still remains built on the holy Jewish site of Solomon's Temple.

90% of the hatred has to do with hidden-Antisemitism.

And that's a fact.

Most of those haters cannot even point out Sderot on the map, but they all sing the "apartheid" song!

Hypocrites!

"Sderot was founded in 1951 as a transit camp for Kurdish and Persian Jewish immigrants who lived in tents and shacks during the Jewish exodus from Muslim countries before permanent housing was completed in 1954.[6] It was built on lands once belonging to the Palestinian Arab village of Najd[7] and is located a few miles south of the village's ruins."

Your racist, apartheid state is built on Arab ruins.
Soon you will find out exactly how that felt.

Sderot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hossfly]

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

 

[georgephillip]

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

"For the first time since the establishment of the State of Israel, a Russian warship docked at the port city of Haifa earlier this month. The 'Azov' of Russian's Black Sea Fleet came to Israel at the request of the Association of Russian War Veterans to help celebrate the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany...

"Russia has long maintained a large naval base in Tartus, the second largest port city in Syria. But with Syria's ongoing civil war likely to end in that country descending into factional warfare and chaos, Russia is concerned for its interests in the region.

"Recent reports are that Moscow is searching for a new Mediterranean seaport to maintain strategic balance in the region. Russian delegations have reportedly examined Egypt and Algeria."

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

We can only imagine how many of those Russian War Vets will be celebrating the incredible Avraham Stern:

"Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious 'Stern Gang,' late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on 'Germany’s side,' in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the 'Jewish Question' in Europe, and their assistance in creating an 'historic Jewish state.'”

Another historic finding for the Jewish Question.

Baltimore Independent Media Center: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis, Edited by Lenni Brenner, Fort Lee, NJ (Barricade Books, 2002), 342 pages.

 

[Hossfly]

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

Someone other than George might want to comment on the significance of this visit. I don't think it was meant to revive Hitler.

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

This implication and interpretation is just wrong on so many different levels, it is hard to just know were to begin.

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

"For the first time since the establishment of the State of Israel, a Russian warship docked at the port city of Haifa earlier this month. The 'Azov' of Russian's Black Sea Fleet came to Israel at the request of the Association of Russian War Veterans to help celebrate the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany...

"Russia has long maintained a large naval base in Tartus, the second largest port city in Syria. But with Syria's ongoing civil war likely to end in that country descending into factional warfare and chaos, Russia is concerned for its interests in the region.

"Recent reports are that Moscow is searching for a new Mediterranean seaport to maintain strategic balance in the region. Russian delegations have reportedly examined Egypt and Algeria."

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

We can only imagine how many of those Russian War Vets will be celebrating the incredible Avraham Stern:

"Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious 'Stern Gang,' late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on 'Germany’s side,' in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the 'Jewish Question' in Europe, and their assistance in creating an 'historic Jewish state.'”

Another historic finding for the Jewish Question.

Baltimore Independent Media Center: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis, Edited by Lenni Brenner, Fort Lee, NJ (Barricade Books, 2002), 342 pages.

(COMMENT)

Whether you talk about the Catholic Church, the IRA, some American businesses and banks, or any other number of activities I could mention, there were dealings with the Germans during WWII. There was even a very strong US Lobby to keep America out of the European war. It should be remembered that it was Germany that declared war on the US, and not the other way around.

In any war, there will be factions on both sides that are working to fulfill their agenda. Yes, even in the greater Jewish Community. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 million Jews were extinguished by the Nazi in the years immediately preceding WWII and during the conflict. While you can point to a few questionable activities by some prominent Jewish leaders, in the end, the rank-and-file Jew that help build the National Home and the State of Israel was not a proponent of the Nazi party. No, the story today is not about pointing fingers at the few. It is about toasting to the victory and survival of those that helped end a tyrannical regime; and in the process, maybe begin mending old bridges and building new ones.

But clearly --- finger pointing has nothing to do with the intent of the Russian visit to Haifa.

While the EU, the US and Russia have not always seen eye-to-eye on the issues that make the Middle East so complex, there is little doubt that "today," there is one thing that can be agreed upon: that radical Islamic fundamentalism poses a serious threat to the future of Regional peace. And there is one island in the Middle East that has not been corrupted by the influence of radical Islamic fundamentalism (Shia or Sunni). Israel! It may be under fire by all its surrounding Arab neighbors that have been influenced in one way or another. Clearly the Palestinians (Hezbollah to the North and Hamas to the South) have the cloak of danger and the stink of death that follows radical Islamic fundamentalism. But Israel has been resistant. Israel is a place that the US and Russia can see common ground. It may become more important than most of the Arab League can imagine.

This may be a pivotal moment in the development of the Middle East. But clearly, a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israeli moment it is not. People who are trying to develop a anti-Israel propaganda movement are not only on the wrong track, they forgot where they are going.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MJB12741]

They sure do search & search to find a bad Jew they can look to as typical. Just goes to prove one need not necessarily have to be a Palestinian to have a Palestinian mentality.

georgephillip, et al,

This implication and interpretation is just wrong on so many different levels, it is hard to just know were to begin.

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

"For the first time since the establishment of the State of Israel, a Russian warship docked at the port city of Haifa earlier this month. The 'Azov' of Russian's Black Sea Fleet came to Israel at the request of the Association of Russian War Veterans to help celebrate the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany...

"Russia has long maintained a large naval base in Tartus, the second largest port city in Syria. But with Syria's ongoing civil war likely to end in that country descending into factional warfare and chaos, Russia is concerned for its interests in the region.

"Recent reports are that Moscow is searching for a new Mediterranean seaport to maintain strategic balance in the region. Russian delegations have reportedly examined Egypt and Algeria."

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

We can only imagine how many of those Russian War Vets will be celebrating the incredible Avraham Stern:

"Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious 'Stern Gang,' late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on 'Germany’s side,' in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the 'Jewish Question' in Europe, and their assistance in creating an 'historic Jewish state.'”

Another historic finding for the Jewish Question.

Baltimore Independent Media Center: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis, Edited by Lenni Brenner, Fort Lee, NJ (Barricade Books, 2002), 342 pages.

(COMMENT)

Whether you talk about the Catholic Church, the IRA, some American businesses and banks, or any other number of activities I could mention, there were dealings with the Germans during WWII. There was even a very strong US Lobby to keep America out of the European war. It should be remembered that it was Germany that declared war on the US, and not the other way around.

In any war, there will be factions on both sides that are working to fulfill their agenda. Yes, even in the greater Jewish Community. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 million Jews were extinguished by the Nazi in the years immediately preceding WWII and during the conflict. While you can point to a few questionable activities by some prominent Jewish leaders, in the end, the rank-and-file Jew that help build the National Home and the State of Israel was not a proponent of the Nazi party. No, the story today is not about pointing fingers at the few. It is about toasting to the victory and survival of those that helped end a tyrannical regime; and in the process, maybe begin mending old bridges and building new ones.

But clearly --- finger pointing has nothing to do with the intent of the Russian visit to Haifa.

While the EU, the US and Russia have not always seen eye-to-eye on the issues that make the Middle East so complex, there is little doubt that "today," there is one thing that can be agreed upon: that radical Islamic fundamentalism poses a serious threat to the future of Regional peace. And there is one island in the Middle East that has not been corrupted by the influence of radical Islamic fundamentalism (Shia or Sunni). Israel! It may be under fire by all its surrounding Arab neighbors that have been influenced in one way or another. Clearly the Palestinians (Hezbollah to the North and Hamas to the South) have the cloak of danger and the stink of death that follows radical Islamic fundamentalism. But Israel has been resistant. Israel is a place that the US and Russia can see common ground. It may become more important than most of the Arab League can imagine.

This may be a pivotal moment in the development of the Middle East. But clearly, a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israeli moment it is not. People who are trying to develop a anti-Israel propaganda movement are not only on the wrong track, they forgot where they are going.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

How soon might we see Russia and Israel join NATO?

On September 6, 2007 Israel struck a Syrian nuclear facility killing a number of North Korean nuclear technicians. Some time prior, a freight train exploded in North Korea killing a number of Syrian nuclear techies.

What happens if an Israeli airstrike today kills an equal number of Russians in Syria?
Wouldn't the Bear have to hit back, and if so, with what degree of proportionality?

Operation Orchard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hossfly]

georgephillip, et al,

This implication and interpretation is just wrong on so many different levels, it is hard to just know were to begin.

Looks as though Russian missles won't be going to Hezbullah after all. "Times, they are a'changin". Seems there was a song about that. I think.

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

"For the first time since the establishment of the State of Israel, a Russian warship docked at the port city of Haifa earlier this month. The 'Azov' of Russian's Black Sea Fleet came to Israel at the request of the Association of Russian War Veterans to help celebrate the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany...

"Russia has long maintained a large naval base in Tartus, the second largest port city in Syria. But with Syria's ongoing civil war likely to end in that country descending into factional warfare and chaos, Russia is concerned for its interests in the region.

"Recent reports are that Moscow is searching for a new Mediterranean seaport to maintain strategic balance in the region. Russian delegations have reportedly examined Egypt and Algeria."

Russian warship docks in Israel for first time - Israel Today | Israel News

We can only imagine how many of those Russian War Vets will be celebrating the incredible Avraham Stern:

"Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious 'Stern Gang,' late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on 'Germany’s side,' in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the 'Jewish Question' in Europe, and their assistance in creating an 'historic Jewish state.'”

Another historic finding for the Jewish Question.

Baltimore Independent Media Center: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis, Edited by Lenni Brenner, Fort Lee, NJ (Barricade Books, 2002), 342 pages.

(COMMENT)

Whether you talk about the Catholic Church, the IRA, some American businesses and banks, or any other number of activities I could mention, there were dealings with the Germans during WWII. There was even a very strong US Lobby to keep America out of the European war. It should be remembered that it was Germany that declared war on the US, and not the other way around.

In any war, there will be factions on both sides that are working to fulfill their agenda. Yes, even in the greater Jewish Community. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 million Jews were extinguished by the Nazi in the years immediately preceding WWII and during the conflict. While you can point to a few questionable activities by some prominent Jewish leaders, in the end, the rank-and-file Jew that help build the National Home and the State of Israel was not a proponent of the Nazi party. No, the story today is not about pointing fingers at the few. It is about toasting to the victory and survival of those that helped end a tyrannical regime; and in the process, maybe begin mending old bridges and building new ones.

But clearly --- finger pointing has nothing to do with the intent of the Russian visit to Haifa.

While the EU, the US and Russia have not always seen eye-to-eye on the issues that make the Middle East so complex, there is little doubt that "today," there is one thing that can be agreed upon: that radical Islamic fundamentalism poses a serious threat to the future of Regional peace. And there is one island in the Middle East that has not been corrupted by the influence of radical Islamic fundamentalism (Shia or Sunni). Israel! It may be under fire by all its surrounding Arab neighbors that have been influenced in one way or another. Clearly the Palestinians (Hezbollah to the North and Hamas to the South) have the cloak of danger and the stink of death that follows radical Islamic fundamentalism. But Israel has been resistant. Israel is a place that the US and Russia can see common ground. It may become more important than most of the Arab League can imagine.

This may be a pivotal moment in the development of the Middle East. But clearly, a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israeli moment it is not. People who are trying to develop a anti-Israel propaganda movement are not only on the wrong track, they forgot where they are going.

Most Respectfully,
R

I hope you don't mind me latching onto your post, Rocco, but this is an interested tidbit regarding Russia which appeared in the ICEJ newsletter today.

Israel blesses the world
A delegation from Russia’s Federal Medical Biological Agency (FMBA) recently visited Jerusalem’s Hala-Rachel Nash Jerusalem Breast Clinic in an effort to learn how Israeli doctors treat breast cancer, a disease which an estimated 52,000 women a year are diagnosed with in Russia. The Russian physicians were very impressed by what they saw and professed an eagerness to copy the Israeli technology, methods and procedures at clinics in Russia. Meanwhile, Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael-Jewish National Fund (KKL-JNF) is joining with the South African Council for (Catholic) Bishops and the NGO Food and Trees for Africa in an effort to teach Israeli agricultural methods to small farmers in South Africa.

 

[georgephillip]

Hossie...when are you expecting Israel and Russia to join the EU?
Before or after "Free" Kurdistan splinters Iraq, Iran, and Turkey?

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

This is not an unreasonable question.

How soon might we see Russia and Israel join NATO?

(COMMENT)

Probably not in our lifetimes.

This doesn't mean that, at some point, we won't see temporal US-Russian military alliances. We have already seen this on a political level (The Quartet as an example), and we've seen this on the mission specific intelligence & security level (CIA/MI--SVR/FSB).

On September 6, 2007 Israel struck a Syrian nuclear facility killing a number of North Korean nuclear technicians. Some time prior, a freight train exploded in North Korea killing a number of Syrian nuclear techies.

What happens if an Israeli airstrike today kills an equal number of Russians in Syria?
Wouldn't the Bear have to hit back, and if so, with what degree of proportionality?

(COMMENT)

Both the US and Russians are much more sophisticated than that. This is rather Third-World thinking. The Russians understand risk and the nature and association risk has to military advisory missions in a hostile fire zone. If the Russians are worried, they will open a channel with the Israelis and come to an arrangement and understanding (if they haven't already).

The idea of proportionality in strike-counterstrike situations is something for the political/diplomatic community to use in explaining the rationale for limited retaliation to achieve political goals that are not immediately obvious.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MJB12741]

Yes but according to George, Israel is on a collision course with Russia. Sure would give us some relief from his radical Islamists yelling death to America & killing us infidels all over the world today.

georgephillip, et al,

This is not an unreasonable question.

How soon might we see Russia and Israel join NATO?

(COMMENT)

Probably not in our lifetimes.

This doesn't mean that, at some point, we won't see temporal US-Russian military alliances. We have already seen this on a political level (The Quartet as an example), and we've seen this on the mission specific intelligence & security level (CIA/MI--SVR/FSB).

On September 6, 2007 Israel struck a Syrian nuclear facility killing a number of North Korean nuclear technicians. Some time prior, a freight train exploded in North Korea killing a number of Syrian nuclear techies.

What happens if an Israeli airstrike today kills an equal number of Russians in Syria?
Wouldn't the Bear have to hit back, and if so, with what degree of proportionality?

(COMMENT)

Both the US and Russians are much more sophisticated than that. This is rather Third-World thinking. The Russians understand risk and the nature and association risk has to military advisory missions in a hostile fire zone. If the Russians are worried, they will open a channel with the Israelis and come to an arrangement and understanding (if they haven't already).

The idea of proportionality in strike-counterstrike situations is something for the political/diplomatic community to use in explaining the rationale for limited retaliation to achieve political goals that are not immediately obvious.

Most Respectfully,
R