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That's because Bush was not "stimulating" the right areas.
It took a gay president to know where to stroke.
I can't wait until school starts and 7th graders won't be posting.
Liberals are mad this morning aren't they?
Naw, the folks who make this country work are just getting tired of being lectured by some trailer trash who hasn't held down a job in his life lecturing us about... well, anything.
Hey, go out and accomplish something. Then I'll be impressed.
"Trailer trash"
How amusing. When you come up with an argument not consisting of my employment status, or of my living situation, then I'll be impressed. Hey, maybe you could exercise that brain of yours? Then that impression would turn into utter astoundment!
Heh. You never can debate me as an equal. You bite like a cobra, and bark like a ravening dog. Sit boy.
Naw, the folks who make this country work are just getting tired of being lectured by some trailer trash who hasn't held down a job in his life lecturing us about... well, anything.
Hey, go out and accomplish something. Then I'll be impressed.
"Trailer trash"
How amusing. When you come up with an argument not consisting of my employment status, or of my living situation, then I'll be impressed. Hey, maybe you could exercise that brain of yours? Then that impression would turn into utter astoundment!
Heh. You never can debate me as an equal. You bite like a cobra, and bark like a ravening dog. Sit boy.
Guy, I mop the floor with you because my arguments are based on having actually accomplished things.
The Arc of a Templar Thread runs like this-
Pompous OP full of logical fallacies.
People take the fallacies apart.
Templar tells us how smart he is (yet oddly never attended college like all those kids who supported Obama and have jobs now.)
People point out that he's basically a slacker living off of others.
Templar whines about how people are picking on him.
Everyone has good laugh.
You know, it must be real sad that you go to work and one of the first things you do is come back here to get your shots in. Were you thinking about me all that time at work? Heh, I'm flattered, but in reality, you're a creep Joe.
Well, yeah, 9 years later.
Not impressed.
I don't want us in Afghanistan now. We might have done some good in 2002, before Bush shifted all the resources to Iraq and missed the oppurtunity to put down the Taliban for good.
LOL.
Sure, but you would have never been satisfied with anything he did, yet you were just quoting him like a sage just a few minutes ago. How cute!
Oh, then on that page you showed me, on the lower right corner is this quote:
"To announce that there should be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, it is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt
Lo and behold, that is exactly what you are doing with Obama.
Joe, I have no more patience for your garbage. Enjoy your neg and move along.
It's not the President's fault you don't have a job, TK. "Internet Warrior" and "self taught" just doesn't play well on a resume.
The immigration situation has you this down, yet 9/11/01, New Orleans underwater, and thousands of Americans dead & maimed to find weapons that didn't exist were BRIGHT spots in our history? I see hope, 5 and a half years without disasters that claimed thousands of lives and cost trillions.
Maybe this will start a trend, our next President can improve the economy, and we stay on the road to "normalcy".
One other thing. There is a disaster happening on our border right now that you just readily blew off there. Our ally Israel is (or was) steeped in the fog of war. Our foreign policy is a disaster, given the hundreds of thousands of innocent people being slaughtered in Syria.
Your solution to the border crisis, please?
Your solution to assisting Israel, please?
Your solution to righting the wrongs in Syria, please?
You know, it must be real sad that you go to work and one of the first things you do is come back here to get your shots in. Were you thinking about me all that time at work? Heh, I'm flattered, but in reality, you're a creep Joe.
Of course rightwingers consider the situation hopeless.
The situation is and always will be hopeless for the Right because the Right is the barrier to progress,
and progress is unstoppable.
Progress? If you call rising health care costs coupled with decreased coverage and the inability to have the freedom to decline health care progress then you are correct.
The US is just as progressive as Nazi Germany I guess since both mandated health insurance.
Thank God there were enough regressive backward idiots willing to fight them off.
You know, it must be real sad that you go to work and one of the first things you do is come back here to get your shots in. Were you thinking about me all that time at work? Heh, I'm flattered, but in reality, you're a creep Joe.
Naw, i'm also in the process of writing an resume for a client, checking my e-mails related to my second job and generally surfing a few internet sites I like. Oh, and cooking dinner. I can multi-Task.
But don't worry, sweetie, you're on my list.
They are now giving the power to the people to bring that change themselves:Yeah, there was a lot of that in 2008. The air was filled with it. I was 20 years old that year and I can remember riding around in the car with my grandmother through this booming college town of Athens Georgia and seeing so many dorms and houses adorned with the Obama campaign slogan and logo. You see, Athens is a mainly liberal city, the paper leans left, lots of the professors at UGA are Democrats. But anyways, so many people had hope then. As hard right as I was then, even I couldn't help but think "maybe this Obama guy won't be so bad. He's given this country hope again." I voted for John McCain in my very first presidential election, however.
I stayed up all night the day before the inauguration, so I could see Bush ride off into the sunset and see Obama, the man who brought so much hope to this country arrive to lead the nation. A little voice, though, kept saying, "looks can be deceiving, this hope has been offered by many a president before. " Little was I aware that in the coming 6 years, the little voice was right. Hope is a fleeting thing, but it draws the soul like a super magnet. Emotions and rational thought can sometimes be buried in hope. Hope, it seems, is also easily exploitable by men and women who would seek to run for president.
When 2010 came along, I could sense a change in the country's mood. Perhaps they felt as if they made a mistake in giving the Democrats so much power two years prior, that November, the Democrats were crushed in the mid-terms, barely holding on to the Senate. However, that mood dissipated, because just two years later, Obama was re-elected again. He didn't campaign on hope this time, but a newfangled health care law he signed into law. At that moment, I felt as if the man was invincible, much to my dismay. At that moment, I felt in my heart that there was no more hope for this great country of ours.
Many people of my worldview then saw how much Obama ill thought of the Constitution he swore to uphold. I thought, "Just another president who broke his oath. When will there ever be a president elected who will uphold our Constitution as he promises?" However, the year 2013 came along. That year would wind up breaking the Obama presidency, eroding the hope people once had in it. The faith was gone. As the scandals broke out, as the once hailed healthcare law took effect and fell flat on it's face; many people began questioning the choice they made those five short years ago. They began to ask "is there any hope for us?" More and more people began to lose the hope they once had in the man who seemingly had it in abundant supply. As this year came along, I could see that there was no more hope for the Democrats. It had by January, evaporated, unlike the snow on the ground.
As the month of July rolls past in this year 2014, we now know where that hope has gone. It was nothing more than a lie, lofted on the wind for those in far away places. There was no hope, well, not for us at least. As we have tens of thousands of illegals flooding our border, we see now that it is America who has no hope; instead those who think of it as merely a place to gain without sacrifice, live without hardship, and work without any burden. But it will not take long for them to soon realize, as we have already--there is no more hope. Perhaps then, the human soul will provide that hope, instead of silver tongued politicians who carry hope on their sleeves and not in their hearts.
Love how you spun the graphs, Seawytch but here what that really looks like:
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That's interesting. What your chart says is that after a long decline in participation throughout the Bush presidency,
the rate stabilized one year into the Obama presidency and has remained steady ever since.
Good work, Mr. President.
Stabilized at a lower level. When I read a graph, and a liberal like you says 'recovery', I expect that little red line to go up. Not stay in the same place.
Actually one would presume that after that decline, there would be a rise to near the levels in the Bush Presidency, correct?
Bad job, no more half assery from you Carbine.
Yeah, there was a lot of that in 2008. The air was filled with it. I was 20 years old that year and I can remember riding around in the car with my grandmother through this booming college town of Athens Georgia and seeing so many dorms and houses adorned with the Obama campaign slogan and logo. You see, Athens is a mainly liberal city, the paper leans left, lots of the professors at UGA are Democrats. But anyways, so many people had hope then. As hard right as I was then, even I couldn't help but think "maybe this Obama guy won't be so bad. He's given this country hope again." I voted for John McCain in my very first presidential election, however.
I stayed up all night the day before the inauguration, so I could see Bush ride off into the sunset and see Obama, the man who brought so much hope to this country arrive to lead the nation. A little voice, though, kept saying, "looks can be deceiving, this hope has been offered by many a president before. " Little was I aware that in the coming 6 years, the little voice was right. Hope is a fleeting thing, but it draws the soul like a super magnet. Emotions and rational thought can sometimes be buried in hope. Hope, it seems, is also easily exploitable by men and women who would seek to run for president.
When 2010 came along, I could sense a change in the country's mood. Perhaps they felt as if they made a mistake in giving the Democrats so much power two years prior, that November, the Democrats were crushed in the mid-terms, barely holding on to the Senate. However, that mood dissipated, because just two years later, Obama was re-elected again. He didn't campaign on hope this time, but a newfangled health care law he signed into law. At that moment, I felt as if the man was invincible, much to my dismay. At that moment, I felt in my heart that there was no more hope for this great country of ours.
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Of course rightwingers consider the situation hopeless.
The situation is and always will be hopeless for the Right because the Right is the barrier to progress,
and progress is unstoppable.
Progress? If you call rising health care costs coupled with decreased coverage and the inability to have the freedom to decline health care progress then you are correct.
The US is just as progressive as Nazi Germany I guess since both mandated health insurance.
Thank God there were enough regressive backward idiots willing to fight them off.
Okay, guy, reality check.
Germany had universal health care long before Hitler got there. IN fact, Germany was the first country to enact Universal Health Care in 1888 thanks to Otto von Bismarck.
Germany had universal health care after Hilter was defeated because it was still a pretty good idea.
Germany spends less than we do, they have a lower infant mortality rate and a longer life expectency, which is really impressive if you've ever eaten German food.
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So you are OK with comparing the US with Germany when it comes to mandatory health care because you say it works in Germany so why not the US? However, we should never compare the US with Nazi Germany because Godwin says we should never do such a thing? To me the comparison of the German government compared to the US government is apples and oranges when it comes to making health care work. For starters, Texas is larger than the entire country of Germany. Also, the US government is $17 trillion in debt and is so dysfunctional it makes the Osborn family seem normal. I have always advocated states that are the size of Germany to figure out their own health care. In comparison, the EU is closer to the size of the US federal government, with about as much representation, which is next to none. However, the EU has not taken upon itself to manage the health care in Germany, which is probably why it is much more successful than what it is in the US.
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As far as mandatory health care in Germany coming along before Nazi Germany, you are correct. However, what you seem to be willing to overlook is the evolution of the Nazi regime. You seem to think that the socialist tendencies has nothing to do with it.
Not Nuff a da hope
Too mucha da dope
Which Obama says is better than drinking alcohol.
Better than sex, actually.
You know, it must be real sad that you go to work and one of the first things you do is come back here to get your shots in. Were you thinking about me all that time at work? Heh, I'm flattered, but in reality, you're a creep Joe.
Naw, i'm also in the process of writing an resume for a client, checking my e-mails related to my second job and generally surfing a few internet sites I like. Oh, and cooking dinner. I can multi-Task.
But don't worry, sweetie, you're on my list.
And people call me arrogant. You're deluded.
The immigration situation has you this down, yet 9/11/01, New Orleans underwater, and thousands of Americans dead & maimed to find weapons that didn't exist were BRIGHT spots in our history? I see hope, 5 and a half years without disasters that claimed thousands of lives and cost trillions.
Maybe this will start a trend, our next President can improve the economy, and we stay on the road to "normalcy".
One other thing. There is a disaster happening on our border right now that you just readily blew off there. Our ally Israel is (or was) steeped in the fog of war. Our foreign policy is a disaster, given the hundreds of thousands of innocent people being slaughtered in Syria.
Your solution to the border crisis, please?
Your solution to assisting Israel, please?
Your solution to righting the wrongs in Syria, please?
