Nobody needs an AK47 with a 30 round magazine

[Dr Grump]

all gun control laws do is to diminish the amount of guns owned by good people without diminishing the amount of guns possessed by assholes.

In the US maybe....Registration wouldn't work. Limiting the types of guns would be a good start. Anyway, it's too late for the US....

 

[turtledude]

In the US maybe....Registration wouldn't work. Limiting the types of guns would be a good start. Anyway, it's too late for the US....

government at the federal level has no proper authority to limit what sort of firearms private citizens can own

government at the state level should be estopped from preventing citizens from owning or possessing the same type or class of weapons that civilian employees of that state government are issued with our tax dollars because said issuance is a proclamation that those weapons are suitable for use against criminals in a civilian environment by civilian employees of the state. By definition, the weapons are equally suitable for the rest of us to use for the same purposes

you are right in one sense-registration won't work to control crime--its only purpose is to facilitate confiscation of weapons that are currently legal to be owned. Under the fifth amendment, registration cannot be imposed on those who cannot legally own firearms due to self incrimination

 

[rightwinger]

government at the federal level has no proper authority to limit what sort of firearms private citizens can own

government at the state level should be estopped from preventing citizens from owning or possessing the same type or class of weapons that civilian employees of that state government are issued with our tax dollars because said issuance is a proclamation that those weapons are suitable for use against criminals in a civilian environment by civilian employees of the state. By definition, the weapons are equally suitable for the rest of us to use for the same purposes

you are right in one sense-registration won't work to control crime--its only purpose is to facilitate confiscation of weapons that are currently legal to be owned. Under the fifth amendment, registration cannot be imposed on those who cannot legally own firearms due to self incrimination

The second amendment encourages gun registration

How can we have well regulated militias unless we know who has the guns and what type of weapon they have?

 

[turtledude]

The second amendment encourages gun registration

How can we have well regulated militias unless we know who has the guns and what type of weapon they have?

that is beyond moronic. nothing in the actual constitution delegates such power to the federal government. one could argue that those actually agreeing to join the FEDERAL MILITIA might be required to bring a standardized weapon but that doesn't require registration

registration has only one purpose-to facilitate confiscation which is why low grade morons support it

 

[rightwinger]

that is beyond moronic. nothing in the actual constitution delegates such power to the federal government. one could argue that those actually agreeing to join the FEDERAL MILITIA might be required to bring a standardized weapon but that doesn't require registration

registration has only one purpose-to facilitate confiscation which is why low grade morons support it

Gun nut paranoia. It does not matter if registration is required at the state or federal level. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state. Registration is the only way to know who can support your militia and what. Weapons they have
The second amendment encourages registration, it does NOT prohibit it

 

[Darkwind]

When was it changed from "The Bill of Rights" to "The Bill of Needs"?

 

[kaz]

This fails as a post hoc fallacy.

This post fails the you're stupid as shit fallacy.

Amazing, all those shootings in gun free zones. But it's just coincidence and doesn't at all indicate that criminals like people not shooting back. They're just nuts, they don't think about that. LOL. You're the village idiot.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In the US maybe....Registration wouldn't work. Limiting the types of guns would be a good start. Anyway, it's too late for the US....

0.00295% of guns in the US are involved in a murder each year.
99.99704% are not.
Your claim is unjustifiable.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Gun nut paranoia. It does not matter if registration is required at the state or federal level. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state. Registration is the only way to know who can support your militia and what. Weapons they have
The second amendment encourages registration, it does NOT prohibit it

No matter how many times you repeat that lie, it is STILL A LIE!

 

[turtledude]

Gun nut paranoia. It does not matter if registration is required at the state or federal level. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state. Registration is the only way to know who can support your militia and what. Weapons they have
The second amendment encourages registration, it does NOT prohibit it

listen moron, you are lying. so stop it. I forget daily more about gun issues than you will ever learn.

What prohibits registration is the tenth amendment and the second amendment

 

[kaz]

Gun nut paranoia. It does not matter if registration is required at the state or federal level. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state. Registration is the only way to know who can support your militia and what. Weapons they have
The second amendment encourages registration, it does NOT prohibit it

So they thought government can require us to register for us to get our Constitutional rights? So they can require us to register and pay fees to have freedom of speech? In fact, the founders encouraged it? They can require registration and government fees to get an abortion? To prevent illegal government search and seizure?

You're just an education every time I read one of your posts...

 

[rightwinger]

0.00295% of guns in the US are involved in a murder each year.
99.99704% are not.
Your claim is unjustifiable.

listen moron, you are lying. so stop it. I forget daily more about gun issues than you will ever learn.

What prohibits registration is the tenth amendment and the second amendment

The second amendment makes gun registration necessary. We need it to support a well regulated militia

The tenth amendment has no bearing on gun registration. States can require stricter rules if they prefer, but it has no bearing on registration

 

[kaz]

The second amendment makes gun registration necessary. We need it to support a well regulated militia

The tenth amendment has no bearing on gun registration. States can require stricter rules if they prefer, but it has no bearing on registration

WTF, so you think "well regulated" means government registration? LOL. Your knowledge of the English language is virtually non existant. Let's go on to the next word you don't know, infringed.

So when the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, you think that means government can say who gets the rights and who doesn't? And government can charge fees to get the right?

And that's in the Bill of Rights, which restricts government power?

Wow. What grade did you drop out of school, RW? I have sixth grade in the pool, there's a lot of money on it. So who won?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Yeah, OK they do. Here's a guy proving it.
This guy exercising his 2nd Amendment right to defend his store in Ferguson is AWESOME | SOOPERMEXICAN

My favorite response to the statement in the OP is: "Nobody needs a mouthy anti-American shouting feckless drivel either... ."

 

[turtledude]

The second amendment makes gun registration necessary. We need it to support a well regulated militia

The tenth amendment has no bearing on gun registration. States can require stricter rules if they prefer, but it has no bearing on registration

your opinion has no merit. and you apparently are too dim to understand the 10th amendment

you need to work on being a better POE

 

[kaz]

your opinion has no merit. and you apparently are too dim to understand the 10th amendment

you need to work on being a better POE

He also isn't familiar with the 14th amendment

 

[rightwinger]

The second amendment makes gun registration necessary. We need it to support a well regulated militia

The tenth amendment has no bearing on gun registration. States can require stricter rules if they prefer, but it has no bearing on registration

WTF, so you think "well regulated" means government registration? LOL. Your knowledge of the English language is virtually non existant. Let's go on to the next word you don't know, infringed.

So when the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, you think that means government can say who gets the rights and who doesn't? And government can charge fees to get the right?

And that's in the Bill of Rights, which restricts government power?

Wow. What grade did you drop out of school, RW? I have sixth grade in the pool, there's a lot of money on it. So who won?

A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state
How do we regulate our militia if we don't know who is in them?


Why do you hate America?

 

[CitizenSeven]

The second amendment makes gun registration necessary. We need it to support a well regulated militia

The tenth amendment has no bearing on gun registration. States can require stricter rules if they prefer, but it has no bearing on registration

WTF, so you think "well regulated" means government registration? LOL. Your knowledge of the English language is virtually non existant. Let's go on to the next word you don't know, infringed.

So when the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, you think that means government can say who gets the rights and who doesn't? And government can charge fees to get the right?

And that's in the Bill of Rights, which restricts government power?

Wow. What grade did you drop out of school, RW? I have sixth grade in the pool, there's a lot of money on it. So who won?

A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state
How do we regulate our militia if we don't know who is in them?


Why do you hate America?

You know who is in the militia when the person signs up for it. At that point, you ask him what he has, to make sure that it is "well regulated" (i.e. supplied). You don't keep a list of everyone's firearm possessions, just like the government shouldn't be keeping a list of phone conversations or posts (first amendment, speech).

Basically, it's the classic misinterpretation of the phrase "being necessary for a well-regulated militia". That's just the government's vested interest in NOT infringing the right to bear arms, not the reason or authority for the right "shall not be infringed". The right to bear arms is a fundamental human right, just like the other rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and the USFG is suppose to recognize this.

 

[kaz]

A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state
How do we regulate our militia if we don't know who is in them?

Explain why in the bill of rights, which guarantees personal liberties from government, you believe they decided to give government the power to regulate guns. Why did they do that? Out of 10 amendments in the bill of right, 9 were liberties for the people and one was a government power?

Why do you hate America?

All you love about America is when they take other people's money by force and give it to you. There's a word for that, here's a hint. It starts with a "G." It ends in "reed."

 

[bripat9643]

government at the federal level has no proper authority to limit what sort of firearms private citizens can own

government at the state level should be estopped from preventing citizens from owning or possessing the same type or class of weapons that civilian employees of that state government are issued with our tax dollars because said issuance is a proclamation that those weapons are suitable for use against criminals in a civilian environment by civilian employees of the state. By definition, the weapons are equally suitable for the rest of us to use for the same purposes

you are right in one sense-registration won't work to control crime--its only purpose is to facilitate confiscation of weapons that are currently legal to be owned. Under the fifth amendment, registration cannot be imposed on those who cannot legally own firearms due to self incrimination

The second amendment encourages gun registration

How can we have well regulated militias unless we know who has the guns and what type of weapon they have?

"Well regulated" does not mean in the sense that the FDA regulates drugs, moron. It means "well drilled" or "well trained."

The 2nd Amendment does not give the federal government of any state government authority to regulate firearms at all.