Nonbelievers Should Be Denied Obamacare

[dblack]

If they are denied medical care based on their political beliefs, this has become a totalitarian society based on patronage. You get according to how loyal you are to the government. Medical care would not be universal, but depend on how much you contribute to the slavemaster government. If the unbeliever infidels are denied medical care, then they shouldn't have to pay for it. Unbelievers should not have to pay taxes.

They will also be denied food based on their political beliefs. We're almost there.

That is what happened in Ukraine in 1932-33 - 10 million were starved to death through artificially created famine in order to get rid of the "enemy political class" - the farmers who did not want to join the collectivization.

Welcome to the USSR

there is nothing new under the sun. All has already been tried.
utopia of "economic equality" is achievable only as utopia of equality in poverty and behind the barbed wire of labor camp. With millions slaughtered in order to achieve this "happiness".

Our leftards still will shriek that "this time" it will be better

Actually spent a couple of hours last night talking to a woman whose family managed to get out of the USSR in the early eighties. She's very distressed by what's going on in the US today.

 

[koshergrl]

You're an idiot, flopper. Not everybody lives in a metropolis. I have to wait a month to get my 11 year old daughter in to her physician to have a mole on her head looked at, because my doctor is so swamped with OHP clients. They told me I'd have to wait 2 months, or head to the clinic and wait in line. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow, and if the mole changes any more, that's where I'll have to take her, too.

 

[Ernie S.]

Two liberal douchebags outed in this thread, the moonbat who tweeted that nonsense and wry catcher.......

I'm not a "liberal douchebag" and no one outed me in this thread. What this thread is, is no different than dozens of dozens of others, a circle jerk wherein bigoted callous conservatives all please each other without one lick of rational discourse but a plethora of drumbeats echoing each other.

Not one of the fools on the right have ever - on this threat or hundreds of others - posted a concise and credible critique of the ACA. Not one! The right wing in our country is filled with greedy bigots who fail to understand - willfully or otherwise - that health care in America needed reform and such reform has been stonewalled by the power elite who profit from human misery.

Critical thinking requires thinking, first, Parrots do not think, nor do those who posted above.

Please get a new shtick.

You have used the phrases "callous conservative echo chamber", "bigoted callous conservatives", and varieties of the same about 10 times in this thread. Do you have something of value to say?

 

[hipeter924]

Well I wouldn't touch the US healthcare system with a barge pole, Obamacare or no Obamacare. But then it would be cheaper for me to get on a plane back to New Zealand for $2000 or less, get treated and go back to the US. Enter most health centers or hospitals in the US and you walk out with ten or more drug prescriptions you probably don't even need (which you are forced to take unless you want to be removed from your health insurance plan).

 

[Flopper]

You're an idiot, flopper. Not everybody lives in a metropolis. I have to wait a month to get my 11 year old daughter in to her physician to have a mole on her head looked at, because my doctor is so swamped with OHP clients. They told me I'd have to wait 2 months, or head to the clinic and wait in line. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow, and if the mole changes any more, that's where I'll have to take her, too.

If you live in a less populated area, there will always be less medical facilities. It goes with the territory which is one of the reasons I live in a large city. When I lived in a small town in Florida, I had to take my wife to a specialist almost every month, about a 40 mile drive. Good luck with your daughter.

 

[francoHFW]

You're an idiot, flopper. Not everybody lives in a metropolis. I have to wait a month to get my 11 year old daughter in to her physician to have a mole on her head looked at, because my doctor is so swamped with OHP clients. They told me I'd have to wait 2 months, or head to the clinic and wait in line. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow, and if the mole changes any more, that's where I'll have to take her, too.

That's what you get after decades of this Pub scam system. NOW we're- O-CARE- spending 10 billion on low cost clinics for underserved areas, more good FAIR stuff to come under Dems- under pander to the rich Pubs, NOT.
Pub dupes...

 

[RandallFlagg]

You're an idiot, flopper. Not everybody lives in a metropolis. I have to wait a month to get my 11 year old daughter in to her physician to have a mole on her head looked at, because my doctor is so swamped with OHP clients. They told me I'd have to wait 2 months, or head to the clinic and wait in line. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow, and if the mole changes any more, that's where I'll have to take her, too.

That's what you get after decades of this Pub scam system. NOW we're- O-CARE- spending 10 billion on low cost clinics for underserved areas, more good FAIR stuff to come under Dems- under pander to the rich Pubs, NOT.
Pub dupes...

Good Lord......

 

[Wry Catcher]

Two liberal douchebags outed in this thread, the moonbat who tweeted that nonsense and wry catcher.......

I'm not a "liberal douchebag" and no one outed me in this thread. What this thread is, is no different than dozens of dozens of others, a circle jerk wherein bigoted callous conservatives all please each other without one lick of rational discourse but a plethora of drumbeats echoing each other.

Not one of the fools on the right have ever - on this threat or hundreds of others - posted a concise and credible critique of the ACA. Not one! The right wing in our country is filled with greedy bigots who fail to understand - willfully or otherwise - that health care in America needed reform and such reform has been stonewalled by the power elite who profit from human misery.

Critical thinking requires thinking, first, Parrots do not think, nor do those who posted above.

If anyone was looking for the epitome of a selfish, pretentious, self righteous, self serving liberal douchebag, look no further......

Proof of critical thinking ^^^? Nope, proof of the inability to write anything of substance.

 

[RandallFlagg]

They will take the money and refuse care !!
The NHS Have been doing it for decades in the UK!!

Again - BINGO!

Great example - the USPS. They are currently on the verge of bankruptcy. Why? is it because of the internet? Yes. However, no one ever questions why the Federal Government TAKES the vast majority of their yearly budget for "other" programs. They are actually being ran out of business by the government that mandates that they "be in business".

Social Security is yet another program. Every year, without fail, Congress robs from the SSA , and they have been doing this for the last 45-50 years. Got to rob "Peter to pay Paul" don't you know.

Hell, we ALL know that Washington DC is nothing more than a giant shell-game - a ponzy scheme that would make Bernie Madoff look like a angel. Why the hell would it surprise ANYONE that a program like Obarrycare (who Nancy Pelosi claimed would be completely funded - another dip-stick liar) doesn't have enough money to operate NOW, let alone 10 years from now.

Folks, we are digging our own graves here.

I'm not sure the USPS was ever intended to be a for-profit organization.

IMHO, not a good example of what you're (correctly) trying to point up.

Actually, it's not necessarily "profit" that I am referring to. The USPS operates under a budget. Every year, Congress steps in and 'takes" a large percentage of their budget and "shuffles" it to other areas.

 

[RandallFlagg]

yep. and his twin brother Hitler was actively eliminating the sick and mentally ill as well ( albeit in a more expensive fashion - bolshevik's just shot a hole in the person's head and that's it. But Germans are Germans - have to have order even in murder.

Ja, es ist einen Minderwertigkeitskomplex, den Deutschen haben.



Germans have an inferiority complex. It stems from the domination of the French and Prussians for so many centuries, with the demand that Germans are "barbarians." Germans strive to prove they are the equal to other Europeans.

Minderwertigkeitskomplex gibt es in jeder Nation

I believe any nation can be found to have such a complex

But Germans started their third attempt at building the IV Reich last century ( at the very end of it) and so far it is working for them - they are dominating the continent now.

Wenn Sie wissen, sind die Menschen mit Deutsch universellen Gesundheitsversorgung für einige Zeit experimentiert. Es funktioniert nicht, wird nicht funktionieren und wird nie in einem Land zu arbeiten, so groß wie Amerika. Also, was die Amerikaner tun? sie weiterhin auf dem Weg zu beweisen, dass wir nicht nur ignorant in unseren Ansatz in der Medizin, aber wir beweisen contunually George Santayana korrigieren. Wir, als Volk, sind unfähig, die Erinnerung an die Vergangenheit.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I'm not a "liberal douchebag" and no one outed me in this thread. What this thread is, is no different than dozens of dozens of others, a circle jerk wherein bigoted callous conservatives all please each other without one lick of rational discourse but a plethora of drumbeats echoing each other.

Not one of the fools on the right have ever - on this threat or hundreds of others - posted a concise and credible critique of the ACA. Not one! The right wing in our country is filled with greedy bigots who fail to understand - willfully or otherwise - that health care in America needed reform and such reform has been stonewalled by the power elite who profit from human misery.

Critical thinking requires thinking, first, Parrots do not think, nor do those who posted above.

If anyone was looking for the epitome of a selfish, pretentious, self righteous, self serving liberal douchebag, look no further......

Proof of critical thinking ^^^? Nope, proof of the inability to write anything of substance.

Your statement is proof of the same.

 

[koshergrl]

You're an idiot, flopper. Not everybody lives in a metropolis. I have to wait a month to get my 11 year old daughter in to her physician to have a mole on her head looked at, because my doctor is so swamped with OHP clients. They told me I'd have to wait 2 months, or head to the clinic and wait in line. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow, and if the mole changes any more, that's where I'll have to take her, too.

That's what you get after decades of this Pub scam system. NOW we're- O-CARE- spending 10 billion on low cost clinics for underserved areas, more good FAIR stuff to come under Dems- under pander to the rich Pubs, NOT.
Pub dupes...

Good Lord......

Flopper is a liar:

"President Bush leaves office with a health care legacy in bricks and mortar: he has doubled federal financing for community health centers, enabling the creation or expansion of 1,297 clinics in medically underserved areas."

How embarassed he must be to be caught in a bald faced lie.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/health/policy/26clinics.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[koshergrl]

"
As governor of Texas, Mr. Bush came to admire the missionary zeal and cost-efficiency of the not-for-profit community health centers, which qualify for federal operating grants by being located in designated underserved areas and treating patients regardless of their ability to pay. He pledged support for the program while campaigning for president in 2000 on a platform of “compassionate conservatism.”
In Mr. Bush’s first year in office, he proposed to open or expand 1,200 clinics over five years (mission accomplished) and to double the number of patients served (the increase has ended up closer to 60 percent). With the health centers now serving more than 16 million patients at 7,354 sites, the expansion has been the largest since the program’s origins in President Lyndon B. Johnson’s war on poverty, federal officials said."


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/health/policy/26clinics.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[sfcalifornia]

Ja, es ist einen Minderwertigkeitskomplex, den Deutschen haben.



Germans have an inferiority complex. It stems from the domination of the French and Prussians for so many centuries, with the demand that Germans are "barbarians." Germans strive to prove they are the equal to other Europeans.

Minderwertigkeitskomplex gibt es in jeder Nation

I believe any nation can be found to have such a complex

But Germans started their third attempt at building the IV Reich last century ( at the very end of it) and so far it is working for them - they are dominating the continent now.

Wenn Sie wissen, sind die Menschen mit Deutsch universellen Gesundheitsversorgung für einige Zeit experimentiert. Es funktioniert nicht, wird nicht funktionieren und wird nie in einem Land zu arbeiten, so groß wie Amerika. Also, was die Amerikaner tun? sie weiterhin auf dem Weg zu beweisen, dass wir nicht nur ignorant in unseren Ansatz in der Medizin, aber wir beweisen contunually George Santayana korrigieren. Wir, als Volk, sind unfähig, die Erinnerung an die Vergangenheit.

Wirklich? Die Weltgesundheitsorganisation sagt was anders.....

WHO dringt auf universelle Gesundheitsversorgung

Lokal versorgt: WHO dringt auf universelle Gesundheitsversorgung - Panorama Nachrichten - NZZ.ch

 

[TemplarKormac]

Minderwertigkeitskomplex gibt es in jeder Nation

I believe any nation can be found to have such a complex

But Germans started their third attempt at building the IV Reich last century ( at the very end of it) and so far it is working for them - they are dominating the continent now.

As you know, Germans with universal healthcare have been experimenting with it for some time. It doesn't work, and will not work, especially not in a country as big as America. So what are the Americans doing? You continue to furthermore prove that we are ignorant in our approach to medicine, all the meanwhile continually proving George Santayana correct. We, as a people are incapable of remembering the past.

Really? The World Health Organization says something different .....

WHO urges universal health care

Lokal versorgt: WHO dringt auf universelle Gesundheitsversorgung - Panorama Nachrichten - NZZ.ch

The link translated:

MRI. Geneva the World Health Organization (WHO) has called upon all States to invest in local research. This is designed to provide a universal health care will be developed tailored to each country. The WHO-members had set the goal in 2005, world-wide, the general health care. This is the best way to consolidate the progress achieved during the last decade, said WHO Director General Margaret Chan-Weltgesundheitsberichts on the publication of the 2013.

The way to a universal health care is to progress with the development objectives of the UN, for example in the associated mortality of mothers and children, Chan wrote. The UN had set itself the target, the number of deaths of children under five years from 12 million in 1990 to 4 million in 2015. 2011 7 Million children died before their fifth birthday.

New studies show that with an increased use of health workers, such as midwives, a quarter less babies die. The infant mortality rate in malaria endemic can also be reduced by mosquito nets with insecticide-treated as from studies in 22 African States. In several countries, including Brazil and Malawi, contributed by cash payments subsidized medical examinations for arms to better public health. So thanks to these payments settled in Malawi 27 percent more people on the HI-Virus test than before. Emerging economies are currently setting up increasingly general health insurance companies. Mexico could 2012, some ten years after the introduction of a health insurance fund, set up a health care for the entire population.

Although wealthy countries continue to a prominent role in most studies play, researchers from developing countries are increasingly involved in international cooperation. According to the World Health Organization (WHO) increase investment in research in the developing countries annually by five percent. In order to close the gap between knowledge and action to close more quickly and improve health systems, but had to be brought together more scientists and politicians, said Christopher Dye, lead author of the WHO-report.

 

[BlindBoo]

Hell. They won't deny anyone Obamacare.

They need everyone participating so they can pay for the damned thing.

Gonna be lots out there "subsidized" by we the taxpayer.

They will need all those tax dollars to fund all those "subsidized" folks.

They will take the money and refuse care !!
The NHS Have been doing it for decades in the UK!!

Again - BINGO!

Great example - the USPS. They are currently on the verge of bankruptcy. Why? is it because of the internet? Yes. However, no one ever questions why the Federal Government TAKES the vast majority of their yearly budget for "other" programs. They are actually being ran out of business by the government that mandates that they "be in business".

Social Security is yet another program. Every year, without fail, Congress robs from the SSA , and they have been doing this for the last 45-50 years. Got to rob "Peter to pay Paul" don't you know.

Hell, we ALL know that Washington DC is nothing more than a giant shell-game - a ponzy scheme that would make Bernie Madoff look like a angel. Why the hell would it surprise ANYONE that a program like Obarrycare (who Nancy Pelosi claimed would be completely funded - another dip-stick liar) doesn't have enough money to operate NOW, let alone 10 years from now.

Folks, we are digging our own graves here.

Ummmm, no.

In 2006, Congress passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, mandating that the USPS front the money for 75 years of employee retirement benefits — a requirement no other public or private institution faces.

In trying to scrape up money for the health care benefits of kids who haven’t even graduated high school yet, the USPS has spiraled into near-bankruptcy. Without the benefit requirement, a July 2012 analysis showed, the USPS would have a $1.5 billion surplus. Instead, it’s billions of dollars in the red.


Congress Is Strong-Arming The Postal Service Into Bankruptcy Even Faster | ThinkProgress

 

[boedicca]

I'm not a "liberal douchebag" and no one outed me in this thread.

This proofs that your a LAIR.

(an homage to the undearly departed and unlamented TMN.)

 

[Stephanie]

SEEING stuff like this, and how they called for anyone belonging to the Nra their children should be killed, wanting to JAIL PEOPLE for how they vote, etc etc under this Regime I hope YOU PEOPLE are getting a good dose of what is coming IF you put them in POWER over you in the next election

 

[kaz]

I'm not a "liberal douchebag"

For the record, are you objecting to the "liberal" or the "douchebag?" You're going to have a tough time disproving either, just want to be clear.

 

[boedicca]

I'm not a "liberal douchebag"

For the record, are you objecting to the "liberal" or the "douchebag?" You're going to have a tough time disproving either, just want to be clear.

I suspect it's the douchebag designation that irks WC.

WC is actually a liberal colostomy bag.