Now That Ukrainegate Imploded, What’s Next?

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

 

[2aguy]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

Had they been rational...and approached Trump in a rational way, they could have made deals with him and had advances for their versions of border control, immigration, healthcare and gun control.....and judges........he wasn't an ideologue in any sense of the word....

They turned him into one. They taught him why judges matter....they taught him how insane democrats are and how important his base is...

 

[Lesh]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

Sure....

I believe you....

If only...right

bullshit

 

[jc456]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

Sure....

I believe you....

If only...right

bullshit

so bullshit they haven't been screaming impeachment since before he took office? you're serious? really?

 

[2aguy]

Just released....video of the democrat impeachment efforts...

 

[iceberg]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

It's like a little dog that can't ever stop barking and wonders why you don't come see the dead leaf he's trapped in the corner.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If it imploded.. it did so in Trump’s face

He’s going to be impeached over it

You know, had you tards not been screaming for impeachment since before the day he even took office I might take you more seriously.

Sure....

I believe you....

If only...right

bullshit

You cry wolf too many times you eventually get eaten.

 

[BlindBoo]

So what was The Mueller Investigation About?

A self inflicted wound, established after Trumpybear fired the FBI director because of the Russia thing.

because no crimes could be defined which even would legitimize THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL COUNSEL

A Special Counsel was not appointed because the Special Counsel law was allowed to expire.

we are in the middle of a Soft Civil War and a COUP

I agree. Putin's Poop Coup, with Trumpybear in the lead role flinging shit everywhere.

But we're going to flush them all in 2020.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump is racist, grabs pussies and he's off-color orange. IMPEACH OR BE BEACHED.

Those are the reasons to vote him out of office, not impeach...although I think you should be able to impeach for racism. Trump is not being impeached for those true things about him, but for something else that is completely true...abuse of power. (And, now, obstruction of justice).

Impeachment of Trump was possible over firing Comey, but not the investigation of Burisma Holdings.
Whether or not it benefits Trump, the president is required by law to investigate Biden holding up aid to the Ukraine in order to get a Ukrainian Inspector General fired.
When it comes to the Burisma Holdings investigation, it is Congress that is guilty of obstructing justice.

 

[The Original Tree]

Trump is racist, grabs pussies and he's off-color orange. IMPEACH OR BE BEACHED.

Those are the reasons to vote him out of office, not impeach...although I think you should be able to impeach for racism. Trump is not being impeached for those true things about him, but for something else that is completely true...abuse of power. (And, now, obstruction of justice).

Impeachment of Trump was possible over firing Comey, but not the investigation of Burisma Holdings.
Whether or not it benefits Trump, the president is required by law to investigate Biden holding up aid to the Ukraine in order to get a Ukrainian Inspector General fired.
When it comes to the Burisma Holdings investigation, it is Congress that is guilty of obstructing justice.

Congress hasn't done it's job since Obama was first elected in to office. If anyone should have been impeached, it should have been the lawless one.

 

[The Original Tree]

So what was The Mueller Investigation About?

A self inflicted wound, established after Trumpybear fired the FBI director because of the Russia thing.

because no crimes could be defined which even would legitimize THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL COUNSEL

A Special Counsel was not appointed because the Special Counsel law was allowed to expire.

we are in the middle of a Soft Civil War and a COUP

I agree. Putin's Poop Coup, with Trumpybear in the lead role flinging shit everywhere.

But we're going to flush them all in 2020.

What Russia Thing? You mean The Hoax Comey knew was a Hoax, paid for by his Fellow Russian Butt Munchers, like Obama, and Clinton. and the Democrat Party, that he knew was Russian Propaganda, yet he used that to file false affidavits in a FISA Court, leaked classified information, perjured himself in front of Congress, and so did Mueller? Then on top of that, all the Treasonous Gymnastics he performed to keep Obama's crooked ass and Hillary's crooked ass out of the Electric Chair is enough to see him in prison for life.

What kind of FUCK uses Russian Propaganda to attempt to Over Turn an Election that he knew was false, knew Clinton and Obama paid for and is not Hanging from a Rope as a Traitor and as an Agent of The Kremlin, in an America that used to value Ethics and Integrity and Patriotism and Honor?

These human pieces of shit all knew they were committing treason when they said if they were exposed they were going to all hang together.

Between Clinton, Biden, Obama, these sell outs raked in a Couple Billion Dollars for their families and Fake Foundations from Foreign Governments. They were ENTIRELY OWNED lock stock and barrel by Foreign Interests and were selling out America every day, and if there was still justice in America, they would have all hung together.

They should still hang together......after DUE PROCESS....and Conviction.

 

[BlindBoo]

What Russia Thing?

Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security

Release Date:
October 7, 2016

For Immediate Release
DHS Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials.

 

[The Original Tree]

What Russia Thing?

Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security

Release Date:
October 7, 2016

For Immediate Release
DHS Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials.

Anything that came out of the Obama Administration you can take and wipe your ass with. In fact, I did this very thing with this letter just now. Printed it out, and wiped my ass with it.

You don't refuse to look at The DNC Server, Give The Entire Clinton Campaign and Podesta Group Immunity if you aren't trying to scam everyone while at the same time taking a Scorched Earth Approach towards The Trump Campaign, even Spying on them During The Campaign.

People need to be facing Firing Squads for Their Failed COUP.

Mueller and Comey gave over 200 people immunity associated with The Podesta Group, DNC, and Clinton Campaign.

How many people did they grant immunity to on The Trump Campaign?

 

[jc456]

So what was The Mueller Investigation About?

A self inflicted wound, established after Trumpybear fired the FBI director because of the Russia thing.

because no crimes could be defined which even would legitimize THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL COUNSEL

A Special Counsel was not appointed because the Special Counsel law was allowed to expire.

we are in the middle of a Soft Civil War and a COUP

I agree. Putin's Poop Coup, with Trumpybear in the lead role flinging shit everywhere.

But we're going to flush them all in 2020.

Russia, Russia, Hoax!! Hoaxism, Hoax-a-dope!!!!

 

[jc456]

What Russia Thing?

Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security

Release Date:
October 7, 2016

For Immediate Release
DHS Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials.

except, it never happened. you were fooled. It isn't possible to pull email files off of a server, the internet can't accommodate the file sizes. 10 Gig pipes are too small for the throughput. but, hey,stay stupid.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Trump is racist, grabs pussies and he's off-color orange. IMPEACH OR BE BEACHED.

Those are the reasons to vote him out of office, not impeach...although I think you should be able to impeach for racism. Trump is not being impeached for those true things about him, but for something else that is completely true...abuse of power. (And, now, obstruction of justice).

You need a cry room, with moral support from people who will lie to you and make you feel better.

I'm not the one that needs support. Toddler Donnie certainly does.

I feel great...Don the Con will be impeached. He'll go down in history with Clinton and Johnson, but I personally think he will go the way of Nixon. He will claim the "deep state" was out to get him and even though he really wanted to "make America great again" the media wouldn't let him. He will, basically, declare bankruptcy and bail.

Tell us more about the crime of accepting gifts, this is fun.

Actually, there are rules for accepting gifts from foreign countries. When the gift is given, the gift is held in an archive while the president is in office, and when he finally leaves, the gifts move from an archive to the presidential library of the president that received the gift. If the president decides that they want to keep the gift, they must purchase it at fair market value. And, there are limits on what a president can and cannot accept......................

The Unusual Gifts Given to U.S. Presidents

As the gifts that U.S. presidents received started to become more extravagant, a rule was enacted to ensure there was no impression of impropriety. The Foreign Gifts and Declarations Act of 1966 was prompted in part by the expensive gifts some Arab kings would bring on their visits, like luxury cars and fine horses, according to Hand. In political culture, “perception becomes reality,” says Hand, and it did not look good to have the president accept something that flashy from a foreign leader. The rule put a limit to the value of a gift a president could accept, with most gifts going directly to the National Archives after being presented. As of January 2014, the limit is currently set at $375.

The gifts of past presidents are located in the National Archives or are transferred to a Presidential Library when he retires. Presidents and other government officials have the option to purchase the gifts they received in office for their market value if they choose, as Hillary Clinton did following her tenure as secretary of state. She chose to purchase the black pearl necklace given to her by Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in 2012, a gift, priced at $970. But usually, the gifts become a relic of past diplomacy, a little bit of history in the form of a novelty tea infuser or a ceremonial dagger, tucked away and carefully catalogued.

 

[justoffal]

Trumpians whistling passed The graveyard.

That's right.... Because that's not where we're going. Landslide 2020

Yeah. Sure. Nothing says LANDSLIDE like a 40% approval rating.

Oh that's right you still believe the polls...
Tsk tsk....poor thing.,

 

[Rigby5]

And on what planet has "Ukrainegate" impolded? Asking for a friend.

Tell you what. I’ve been asking for weeks what’s the crime and the evidence.

You be the first to answer.

Your non answer answers your question.

And you have been getting the answer for weeks. Your inability or unwillingness to understand is no one's problem but your own.

Bullshit, that’s why you can’t answer even now.

Okay, so here is where I list the crimes and what he's being impeached for and you say "bullshit" anyway. You can continue to scream "bullshit" all you want but the impeachment will go on regardless.

It is a crime to solicit or accept a thing of value from a foreign government. That is the crime even though one is not needed to impeach. Added to that crime we have the coverup. (Putting the call transcript on a secret server not meant to store unclassified phone transcripts, the text messages between officials) and we have the abuse of power. ("I want you to do is a favor though") and to add to it all will be obstruction of justice with the ignoring of subpoenas.

Articles of impeachment have not been drafted. This is an inquiry to see if violations, in fact, did occur. If they didn't, there will be no impeachment. Why so worried?

No, it is NOT at all illegal to solicit as much as possible from foreign governments, as long as it is for the benefit of the US.
Whether or not it also benefits Trump personally, by exposing crimes by an opponent, is totally and completely irrelevant.
Nor has there been any "cover up" by Trump, who completely admitted exactly what was said.

It clearly is Congress that is guilty of obstruction of justice, in attempting to stop the legal investigation of Burisma Holdings.
So impeachment proceedings are really, really stupid, because there is no way to investigate Trumps phone call request without then also investigating Burisma Holdings, which is exactly what Trump wanted to do in the first place.
The hypocrisy is obvious, because we have Trumps call where he is doing his sworn duty, attempting to get the Ukraine to help US interests, and then we have Joe Biden's phone call were he is illegally withholding aid in order to get the Inspector General fired, who was looking into Hunter Biden corruption.
Very ironic actually.

 

[ABikerSailor]

And on what planet has "Ukrainegate" impolded? Asking for a friend.

Tell you what. I’ve been asking for weeks what’s the crime and the evidence.

You be the first to answer.

Your non answer answers your question.

And you have been getting the answer for weeks. Your inability or unwillingness to understand is no one's problem but your own.

Bullshit, that’s why you can’t answer even now.

Okay, so here is where I list the crimes and what he's being impeached for and you say "bullshit" anyway. You can continue to scream "bullshit" all you want but the impeachment will go on regardless.

It is a crime to solicit or accept a thing of value from a foreign government. That is the crime even though one is not needed to impeach. Added to that crime we have the coverup. (Putting the call transcript on a secret server not meant to store unclassified phone transcripts, the text messages between officials) and we have the abuse of power. ("I want you to do is a favor though") and to add to it all will be obstruction of justice with the ignoring of subpoenas.

Articles of impeachment have not been drafted. This is an inquiry to see if violations, in fact, did occur. If they didn't, there will be no impeachment. Why so worried?

No, it is NOT at all illegal to solicit as much as possible from foreign governments, as long as it is for the benefit of the US.
Whether or not it also benefits Trump personally, by exposing crimes by an opponent, is totally and completely irrelevant.
Nor has there been any "cover up" by Trump, who completely admitted exactly what was said.

It clearly is Congress that is guilty of obstruction of justice, in attempting to stop the legal investigation of Burisma Holdings.
So impeachment proceedings are really, really stupid, because there is no way to investigate Trumps phone call request without then also investigating Burisma Holdings, which is exactly what Trump wanted to do in the first place.
The hypocrisy is obvious, because we have Trumps call where he is doing his sworn duty, attempting to get the Ukraine to help US interests, and then we have Joe Biden's phone call were he is illegally withholding aid in order to get the Inspector General fired, who was looking into Hunter Biden corruption.
Very ironic actually.

Actually, it is illegal to solicit foreign assistance for help in a domestic election.

 

[jc456]

Trumpians whistling passed The graveyard.

That's right.... Because that's not where we're going. Landslide 2020

Yeah. Sure. Nothing says LANDSLIDE like a 40% approval rating.

Oh that's right you still believe the polls...
Tsk tsk....poor thing.,

believe in polls is better. they are junk and interfering.