Nurses tell of "aborted" babies being born alive.

[ron4342]

Where is it written that everyone else has to pay for your irresponsibility?

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

You haven't proven shit. Repeating a tired old talking point just proves you got NOTHING!!

Here is a thought that may be way, way over your head: JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS A TALKING POINT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS WRONG. Dismissing something as a talking point because you refuse to believe it but cannot disprove it suggests you really do not understand what you are speaking of.

 

[ron4342]

LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?This baby is alive!?: the heartbreaking story of Baby Hope
LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?That?s not a baby. That?s an abortion!?: clinic workers describe babies born alive

LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?This is so hard. Oh, God, it?s so hard!?: nurses tell of aborted babies born alive

We had one saline [type of abortion] born alive. I raced to the nursery with it and put it in an incubator. I called the pediatrician to come right down, and he refused. He said, “That’s not a baby. That’s an abortion. (1)

How can that not bring tears to your eyes?

Certainly ,I had a long conversation with a young women some years ago, that had survived a saline abortion,her perspective on the issue was very unique,and forgiving,she impressed me very much.
There are no valid excuses for killing an unborn person,ever.

I see stories like yours and I just shake my head at your ignorance. HOW did she know she had survived a saline abortion? Did she provide any proof other than her say so? Surely she did not remember it. Someone might have told her. But why would anyone tell that to another person? I have never seen a birth certificate where it made mention of the person being a survivor of an abortion attempt. To know this information she would have had to go back to the hospital where it took place and go through the records which could very well have been sealed. Why would someone take the time to try to track down something like this? IT MAKES NO SENSE UNLESS THERE WAS AN AGENDA AND THEY WANTED TO FOOL PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. I'm sorry, you and your story have no credibility.

 

[RDD_1210]

Where is it written that everyone else has to pay for your irresponsibility?

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

You haven't proven shit. Repeating a tired old talking point just proves you got NOTHING!!

Then disprove it. Link to the posts where you advocate aid and welfare for children in need.

I'll wait.

When you don't, and we both know you won't, we'll both know which one of us is right....again.

 

[ron4342]

So, in other words you admit you're just throwing shit out there in the hopes of it sticking.

That doesn't even make sense.

I said you people don't support the well being of children once they're born. How am I suppose to prove the absence of something? If it exists, you should be able to point to it. But you can't....because it doesn't exist. Hence, my point.

Where is it written that everyone else has to pay for your irresponsibility?

And where is it written that after you force a woman to carry to term you can just turn and walk away, in effect forcing the child into poverty or an early death?

 

[ron4342]

Yeah, keep throwing out the talking points. Maybe you can convince yourself that killing defenseless babies is a noble cause. You are one disgusting POS, you know that?

Not quite as disgusting as a person who wants to force women to carry to term when they know they cannot afford to keep and care for a child. And not as disgusting as a person who supports a party that wants to take food out of the new borns mouth. And certainly not as disgusting as someone who wants to deny the mother and child medical care. And nowhere near as disgusting as someone who has no problem with the mother and new born being forced to live on the street. Call me a POS it you wish but from where I stand the POS is the one trying to control other peoples bodies and who then turns their back on them so they can blame them when they die in the gutter.

Umm, no one is calling to deny food to newborns but keep on with that lie. Your dem brethren eat that stuff up.

I really try not to call people names but when someone makes as stupid a statement as you have I simply cannot control myself.
So Dumb Dumb, read the article below and then answer the question at the bottom.

SNAP Benefits Will Be Cut for Nearly All Participants In November 2013

"The 2009 Recovery Act’s temporary boost to Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits is scheduled to end on November 1, 2013, resulting in a benefit cut for nearly every SNAP household.[2] For families of three, the cut will be $29 a month — a total of $319 for November 2013 through September 2014, the remaining months of fiscal year 2014.[3] That’s a serious loss, especially in light of the very low amount of basic SNAP benefits. Without the Recovery Act’s boost, SNAP benefits will average less than $1.40 per person per meal in 2014. (See Table 2 for estimates of the size of the SNAP cut in each state in fiscal year 2014.) Nationally, the total cut is estimated to be $5 billion in fiscal year 2014."
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899

Question: Exactly who do you think will be hardest hit by the reduction in SNAP benefits, the wealthy or the poor? And I know I shouldn't have to post this, but I have learned I must assume people like you know nothing. You do understand that many of the poor have young children? You do know that, don't you? You do realize that cutting SNAP benefits is going to take the food out of the mouths of some of the poorest in this country AND THAT INCLUDES NEW BORNS AND YOUNG CHILDREN. You do understand that?

 

[tinydancer]

There are many excellent homes and centers set up to help young pregnant teens.

This "every conservative doesn't have a heart" bullshit is nauseating. Now I donate to an abused woman's shelter up here and my husband and I do huge teddy donations at Christmas to the woman's shelter for the babies and to the underpriviledged.

That's what we do. That's where our hearts lie.

But I know many others who donate to shelters like what I have just listed. It's just we don't go bragging around about it.

Look, just one google away........

Shifra Homes- Maternity Residence for pregnant women and teens ...
www.shifrahomes.com/*
Shifra Home, located in Burlington, Ontario Canada, is a Christ-Centered maternity residence and resource centre for young, pregnant women and teens.

Young Parents Program - North Shore Neighbourhood House
www.nsnh.bc.ca/youth_pregnant.php*
Being a young parent comes with unique challenges and responsibilities. The House administers the Pregnant and Parenting Teen Program (for youth ages ...

Helping Pregnant and Parenting Teens Find Adequate Housing ...
Healthy Teen Network*

Helping Pregnant and Parenting Teens Find Adequate Housing ... could potentially be almost 400,000 homeless and pregnant young women in this country.
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Helping pregnant and parenting teens Find adequate Housing1
www.healthyteennetwork.org/.../{6B08D6EF-E9F0-4637-B3D5-E6D...*
potentially be almost 400,000 homeless and pregnant young women in this country. ... available for pregnant parenting teens seeking housing supports. it is not ...

Jessie's | The June Callwood Centre for Young Women
www.jessiescentre.org/*
Jessie's | The June Callwood Centre for Young Women ... Jessie's Centre is a multi-service resource centre for pregnant teenagers, young ... young mom? ... Our Friends and Supporters make Jessie's a second home for our moms and babies.

Helping Pregnant and Parenting Teens Find Housing | Under the ...
healthyteennetworkblog.org/.../helping-pregnant-and-parenting-teens-fin...*
Mar 20, 2013 - Two types of supportive housing for pregnant and parenting teens include: ... for homeless young mothers or families is maternity group homes, ...

Terra: Centre for Pregnant Teens, Teen Moms & Parents, Edmonton ...
terracentre.ca/*
With support from individuals and groups in our community, Terra helps more than 600 young people cope with the issues surrounding teen pregnancy each ...

Maternity Home for Pregnant Teens, Young Women - Raleigh, NC
www.christianlifehome.org/*
a home away from home when you're pregnant. Pregnancy presents many challenges. At the Christian Life Home you will find relief from many of life's ...

Young Parent Outreach and support network for young moms and ...
www.ypoutreach.com/*
The Young Parent Outreach program deals with young parents, teen mom's, childcare, ... Home · About Us .... Teen pregnancy rate sky high in Cranbrook.

Massey Centre - home
www.massey.ca/*
Welcome to Massey Centre. New lives start here. We are a Children's Mental Health Centre for pregnant and parenting adolescents. Each young mom who ...

https://www.google.ca/search?q=home...e_rd=ctrl&ei=o0wzU6r9H-qM8QeJ2oCYCw&gws_rd=cr

 

[tinydancer]

These centers are out there. This one happens to be in the UK. All one has to do is google and you find so many charities out there who have set up centers like this one.

But the pro abortion crowd just needs to keep banging the drum that pro lifers are callous hard hearted assholes.

That's what bolsters their pro death stance of "better dead than a burden".

LIFE is a pro-life charity that supports anyone facing a crisis pregnancy, pregnancy loss or after an abortion,and strives to engage, inspire and inform the next generation.

More at link:

LIFE is a pro-life charity that supports anyone facing a crisis pregnancy, pregnancy loss or after an abortion.

 

[S.J.]

That doesn't even make sense.

I said you people don't support the well being of children once they're born. How am I suppose to prove the absence of something? If it exists, you should be able to point to it. But you can't....because it doesn't exist. Hence, my point.

Where is it written that everyone else has to pay for your irresponsibility?

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

 

[RDD_1210]

Where is it written that everyone else has to pay for your irresponsibility?

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

 

[chikenwing]

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

So ya got nothing,its never better to kill a child,for any reason,but nice try.

 

[RDD_1210]

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

You haven't proven shit. Repeating a tired old talking point just proves you got NOTHING!!

Then disprove it. Link to the posts where you advocate aid and welfare for children in need.

I'll wait.

When you don't, and we both know you won't, we'll both know which one of us is right....again.

Speaking of "got nothing"...look who never responded to this post.

You inbreds are all talk, no substance.

 

[RDD_1210]

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

So ya got nothing,its never better to kill a child,for any reason,but nice try.

Good thing I've never advocated the killing of any children. But solid argument otherwise.

 

[S.J.]

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

So ya got nothing,its never better to kill a child,for any reason,but nice try.

Good thing I've never advocated the killing of any children. But solid argument otherwise.

No, you just defend it.

 

[RDD_1210]

So ya got nothing,its never better to kill a child,for any reason,but nice try.

Good thing I've never advocated the killing of any children. But solid argument otherwise.

No, you just defend it.

Nope. Killing children is NEVER ok or justified. It's a shame you think it's ok that they should starve/suffer though if their parents made poor decisions. Shame on you.

 

[chikenwing]

Good thing I've never advocated the killing of any children. But solid argument otherwise.

No, you just defend it.

Nope. Killing children is NEVER ok or justified. It's a shame you think it's ok that they should starve/suffer though if their parents made poor decisions. Shame on you.

You always like to make assumptions for others,oh wait that make it easier for your illogical responses to slip by.

So you think it better to kill them off 1st,before something that might happen does?

No shame on me ,tons on you. Not ever have people of your type,presented an excuse for killing children,that wasn't complete BS,ever.

 

[S.J.]

I get it, you don't care about the actual well being of babies/children. You just care that they are born and then.....good luck to you.

That's my point, thanks for proving it over and over again.

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

No, failing to use birth control when you don't want the baby is irresponsible. Murdering it doesn't correct anything, it just makes you immoral, and denying your immorality doesn't excuse it. You're still a butcher.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

No, failing to use birth control when you don't want the baby is irresponsible. Murdering it doesn't correct anything, it just makes you immoral, and denying your immorality doesn't excuse it. You're still a butcher.

So you must be a big supporter of Obamacare providing contraception to avoid abortions, right?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?This baby is alive!?: the heartbreaking story of Baby Hope
LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?That?s not a baby. That?s an abortion!?: clinic workers describe babies born alive

LifeSiteNews Mobile | ?This is so hard. Oh, God, it?s so hard!?: nurses tell of aborted babies born alive

We had one saline [type of abortion] born alive. I raced to the nursery with it and put it in an incubator. I called the pediatrician to come right down, and he refused. He said, “That’s not a baby. That’s an abortion. (1)

How can that not bring tears to your eyes?

It's also sad that so-called "pro lifers" don't give a shit about the well being of kids once they're born. Pro-lifers should be called "Pro-birthers" because they only care about a child being born, not it's actual life.

Start a thread about hungry children and see how many of these so-called pro-lifers would happily kick a starving child out of their way rather than vote for food stamps.

Talk about child support and the same jerks will say she should have kept her legs closed.

Orion posts one hate thread after another and then posts this from an anti-abortion site?

Reality is, abortion is here to stay. It needs to be easy to obtain and painless for both the woman and the fetus.

And birth control should be free for all. Period. No questions asked.

Save the shit about socialism. Its time we invested in our own country. That means we stop forcing women to reproduce and instead, invest our resources in the children already born. Educate them, feed them, care for them.

Its really not all that hard to understand.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's also sad that so-called "pro lifers" don't give a shit about the well being of kids once they're born. Pro-lifers should be called "Pro-birthers" because they only care about a child being born, not it's actual life.

Is that how you justify murder? Blame somebody else for not taking YOUR responsibility?

Murder? If you can't make your point without going to the extreme, what does that say about your point?

I believe you've just moved the IQ curve several notches to the left.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Because conservatives don't line up to pay for your irresponsibility doesn't give you the right to commit murder. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

It's good to see you at least admit that bringing a child in to this world when you are not prepared to take care of it is irresponsible. But you want to force those irresponsible people to go through with it anyway... To teach them some sort of sick lesson. What kind of monster raised you anyway?

No, failing to use birth control when you don't want the baby is irresponsible. Murdering it doesn't correct anything, it just makes you immoral, and denying your immorality doesn't excuse it. You're still a butcher.

Its the male that causes the pregnancy.

Its the female who is responsible for it.

See anything wrong with that?