Obama, called a war criminal in Irish Parliment.

[Sallow]

From torture to assassination through unmanned aircraft. Yup, the moral high ground looks almost like the bottom of the Ocean. I wonder why that is?

And just when did you start caring about this?

Boxer Rebellion?
The run up San Juan Hill?
Suppression of Filipino Insurrection?
Iranian Coup?
Assassination of Diem?
Overthrowing the government of Chile?
Invasion of Granada?
Invasion of Panama?
Backing the Muj in Afghanistan?
Invasion of Granada?

Not sure..perhaps you can enlighten the folks.

So because the USA did stupid and illegal things in the past, that somehow makes it OK for obama to do stupid and illegal things today????????????

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

 

[Redfish]

And just when did you start caring about this?

Boxer Rebellion?
The run up San Juan Hill?
Suppression of Filipino Insurrection?
Iranian Coup?
Assassination of Diem?
Overthrowing the government of Chile?
Invasion of Granada?
Invasion of Panama?
Backing the Muj in Afghanistan?
Invasion of Granada?

Not sure..perhaps you can enlighten the folks.

So because the USA did stupid and illegal things in the past, that somehow makes it OK for obama to do stupid and illegal things today????????????

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

 

[Indofred]

Kudos to Clare Daley from Ireland. She has Obama pegged. This is a must watch video.

Obama called "war criminal" & "hypocrite of the century" in Irish Parliament - YouTube

I think I like that lady.

 

[Sunni Man]

Kudos to Clare Daley from Ireland. She has Obama pegged. This is a must watch video.

Obama called "war criminal" & "hypocrite of the century" in Irish Parliament - YouTube

I think I like that lady.

I wish we had a dozen just like her in our congress.

Heck, if she was an American citizen, I would vote for her to be president. ..

 

[Freewill]

Kudos to Clare Daley from Ireland. She has Obama pegged. This is a must watch video.

Obama called "war criminal" & "hypocrite of the century" in Irish Parliament - YouTube

I think I like that lady.

I wish we had a dozen just like her in our congress.

Heck, if she was an American citizen, I would vote for her to be president. ..

We do, Sara Palin.

 

[FA_Q2]

From torture to assassination through unmanned aircraft. Yup, the moral high ground looks almost like the bottom of the Ocean. I wonder why that is?

And just when did you start caring about this?

Boxer Rebellion?
The run up San Juan Hill?
Suppression of Filipino Insurrection?
Iranian Coup?
Assassination of Diem?
Overthrowing the government of Chile?
Invasion of Granada?
Invasion of Panama?
Backing the Muj in Afghanistan?
Invasion of Iraq?

Not sure..perhaps you can enlighten the folks.

When I grew up and started realize what we are doing across the globe is completely inexcusable. It was during the Clinton years by the way, not when Obama took office so you can take that condescending tone and put it you know where.

Now, when did you STOP caring about these things, hmmm????

 

[FA_Q2]

What is Obama's peace prize for? Remember, he got that award during the first 3 months of his Presidency. He received that award for doing nothing.

It makes perfect sense since he received the Presidency for the same reason.

Obama was elected in 2008 for two reasons.

1) he was black

2) he wasn't Bush

Just number 2 to be honest. Quite frankly, if the republicans had run unopposed they still would have lost. That is how unpopular Bush was.

 

[Sallow]

So because the USA did stupid and illegal things in the past, that somehow makes it OK for obama to do stupid and illegal things today????????????

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

 

[Sallow]

From torture to assassination through unmanned aircraft. Yup, the moral high ground looks almost like the bottom of the Ocean. I wonder why that is?

And just when did you start caring about this?

Boxer Rebellion?
The run up San Juan Hill?
Suppression of Filipino Insurrection?
Iranian Coup?
Assassination of Diem?
Overthrowing the government of Chile?
Invasion of Granada?
Invasion of Panama?
Backing the Muj in Afghanistan?
Invasion of Iraq?

Not sure..perhaps you can enlighten the folks.

When I grew up and started realize what we are doing across the globe is completely inexcusable. It was during the Clinton years by the way, not when Obama took office so you can take that condescending tone and put it you know where.

Now, when did you STOP caring about these things, hmmm????

1. Clinton, eh? What Clinton policy were you against? Bombing Iraq? The embargo? The Balkans?

2. I never stopped caring. I personally think the AUMF and the Patriot Act should be swept into the dustbin of history. The War Powers act should be expanded to include that no President may not invade or use military force against a country not involved in attacking the US or in illegal actions, such as genocide (Which has to be clearly defined). And it should be expanded so that after the six month period has been reached, congress must be compelled to hold a vote in both houses which is not subject to filibusters.

 

[Pete7469]

This is going on facebook.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Anything that doesn't get UN approval is somehow illegal? WTF?


When did the UN become the world government?

 

[Redfish]

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

nice dodge. but once more------does that make it OK for obama to continue to do illegal an stupid things? yes or no.

 

[Freewill]

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

there is no precedent for the drone program and a kill list.

 

[Redfish]

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

there is no precedent for the drone program and a kill list.

Right, notice how sallow always runs from a thread when he has been defeated by the truth---typical liberal. All mouth, no substance.

 

[FA_Q2]

And just when did you start caring about this?

Boxer Rebellion?
The run up San Juan Hill?
Suppression of Filipino Insurrection?
Iranian Coup?
Assassination of Diem?
Overthrowing the government of Chile?
Invasion of Granada?
Invasion of Panama?
Backing the Muj in Afghanistan?
Invasion of Iraq?

Not sure..perhaps you can enlighten the folks.

When I grew up and started realize what we are doing across the globe is completely inexcusable. It was during the Clinton years by the way, not when Obama took office so you can take that condescending tone and put it you know where.

Now, when did you STOP caring about these things, hmmm????

1. Clinton, eh? What Clinton policy were you against? Bombing Iraq? The embargo? The Balkans?

2. I never stopped caring. I personally think the AUMF and the Patriot Act should be swept into the dustbin of history. The War Powers act should be expanded to include that no President may not invade or use military force against a country not involved in attacking the US or in illegal actions, such as genocide (Which has to be clearly defined). And it should be expanded so that after the six month period has been reached, congress must be compelled to hold a vote in both houses which is not subject to filibusters.

I can mostly agree with 2 though I don’t think 6 months is reasonable at all. If we have taken the liberty of going into another nation and slaughtering its people then I don’t see why every person in congress cannot have their ass in the seat and debating the need for war by the next day or 2. We are talking about killings here. There is no reason to leave it to filibuster like you said though I would give a week for congress to decide – they are just going t be in session that entire week. If people are dying then congress needs to take it seriously.

As far as Clinton, I did not have a specific problem with his foreign policy as much as I had a problem with America’s entire foreign policy in general. I do not think that America needs to be the world’s police and I do not think that we need bases sprawled all over the damn planet in the name of ‘defense.’ It is not defense when you have 300 basses in Germany. It is not defense when we stay in nations that do not even want our presence for decades.

The problems I had with Clintons foreign policy but I don’t really attribute them to him as much as I do to the general attitude that America takes with the world. Kosovo was a mess and our handling of Israel was an exercise in futility. Bush was different though. Iraq was more than a mere extension of previous meddling in world affairs. It was an all-out war that never needed to be fought. Obama has continued to be just as active in blowing shit up as Bush was without the ground troops – something that I consider a minor difference by the way. The reality is that the ire that we bring against this nation has a lot to do with our involvement in other nations and the simple fact that it is unwanted much of the time. Obama is overseeing in Libya a situation that is dangerously close to Afghanistan where we are setting the WRONG people up for power and then after we are done I can guarantee that we will leave and they are going to have nothing but ire for us when they try and rebuild the war stricken area. We have problems here that we need to address before gallivanting all over the world like the planets police force.

 

[Stephanie]

Interesting.

When a foreign power criticizes the President of the United States:

Liberals will:

Rangel Responds to Chavez - YouTube

Stand by the President, no matter who the President is..

And Conservatives will betray America.

Who's the Patriot again?

You've become quite the liar...It was you Liberals who was crowing Bush couldn't leave the country or risk being arrested or how about when he had a shoe thrown at him, you liberals thought too bad they MISSED him? and lets not forget the hooting and cheering you all did when Chavez called him a dog while he was on AMERICAN SOIL...
you just conveniently forget how you stood up for him in all those I guess?
and you people questioning others patriotism is a sickness you have developed...you should look in mirror first

 

[FA_Q2]

You are not fooling anyone.

You could care less about the "illegal things".

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

Precedent my ass. We have never before targeted people with drones on a planetary scale. Before that, you actually had to be a leader of a nation or major military force. Now we target American citizens that are in nations that ARE NOT hostile to us who are mere recruiters for drone assassination. That is just a SMALL change as well. He is doing nothing that resembles precedent.

When you can excuse the programs that Obama runs as precedent then you are really just rubberstamping him because he has a D next to his name. I guess you really did stop caring then. You sure as hell did not give bush a pass with ‘precedent’ for his asinine expansions in international meddling. The fact that Obama is essentially doing everything that Bush did does not seem to matter though…

 

[Sallow]

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

nice dodge. but once more------does that make it OK for obama to continue to do illegal an stupid things? yes or no.

It's not a dodge.

It's the history.

And by the way..it's "legal".

 

[Sallow]

Wrong, I care very much when our government violates its own statutes. But I asked you if you think that past illegal actions somehow justify obama taking illegal actions today.

what is your answer?

The answer is Obama is in keeping with a precedent set by almost every President of the United States.

The problem isn't Obama. It's the precedent.

Precedent my ass. We have never before targeted people with drones on a planetary scale. Before that, you actually had to be a leader of a nation or major military force. Now we target American citizens that are in nations that ARE NOT hostile to us who are mere recruiters for drone assassination. That is just a SMALL change as well. He is doing nothing that resembles precedent.

When you can excuse the programs that Obama runs as precedent then you are really just rubberstamping him because he has a D next to his name. I guess you really did stop caring then. You sure as hell did not give bush a pass with ‘precedent’ for his asinine expansions in international meddling. The fact that Obama is essentially doing everything that Bush did does not seem to matter though…

Bullshit.

Ford actually had to issue an executive order in attempt stop political assassinations.

Executive Order 11905 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sallow]

Interesting.

When a foreign power criticizes the President of the United States:

Liberals will:

Rangel Responds to Chavez - YouTube

Stand by the President, no matter who the President is..

And Conservatives will betray America.

Who's the Patriot again?

You've become quite the liar...It was you Liberals who was crowing Bush couldn't leave the country or risk being arrested or how about when he had a shoe thrown at him, you liberals thought too bad they MISSED him? and lets not forget the hooting and cheering you all did when Chavez called him a dog while he was on AMERICAN SOIL...
you just conveniently forget how you stood up for him in all those I guess?
and you people questioning others patriotism is a sickness you have developed...you should look in mirror first

Not lying at all.

And feel free to find an elected Democratic politician that was taking the side of a foreign power against our own..during the Bush administration.

Go for it.