OBAMA Declares 'We did not see Russian Tampering of Elections'

[jc456]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

well wait, what was the recall of the election if influence doesn't mean tampering? huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

This, from Oct, 7.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.

Do you also need an example of voter tampering?

numb nuts that is not voter tampering.
Not one vote was manipulated or changed...they are saying they believe some emails were compromised from some political organizations...an everyday event. We do it to them also rest assured.
Much ado about nothing.
But by all means keep gulping the Kool-Aid

This would be an extremely appropriate time to point out that, through their tireless efforts, the Democrats/Liberals totally emasculated the intelligence agencies of America.

1. "The real aberration occurred in the mid-1970s when the United States granted its legislative branch the greatest control over intelligence matters of any Western nation, and overturned the system which had prevailed in the United States since the Founding.

2. The damage done to the CIA by this congressional oversight regime (Democrat-controlled Pike and Church Committees) is quite extensive. The committees increased the number of CIA officials subject to Senate confirmation, condemned the agency for its contacts with unscrupulous characters, prohibited any further contact with these bad characters, insisted that the United States not engage or assist in any coup which may harm a foreign leader, and overwhelmed the agency with interminable requests for briefings (some 600 alone in 1996).

3. ...members of Congress threatened to leak information in order to derail covert operations they found personally repugnant. Leaks are a recurring problem, as some member of Congress, or some staff member, demonstrated in the aftermath of the September 11th attack… Leaks have occurred repeatedly since the mid-1970s, and in very few cases has the offending party been disciplined. One of the Founding Fathers of the new oversight regime, former Representative Leo Ryan, held that leaks were an important tool in checking the “secret government.”

4. [C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.

5. Congressional meddling is primarily responsible for this new CIA ethos, transforming it from an agency willing to take risks, and act at times in a Machiavellian manner, into just another sclerotic Washington bureaucracy. This cautious, legalistic attitude has crippled the agency’s effectiveness ...."
http://hnn.us/articles/380.html

 

[jc456]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

Was it agreeing with this:



Just a few (25) of the scandals, lies, and criminal activity of Hillary Clinton.


1. Travelgate: After their election, the Clintons fired the White House Travel Office...which had served 7 administrations, and turned it over to their pals. As part of this, they brought bogus corruption charges against the civil servants therein.
The individuals were cleared on all counts.
The Independent Council found that Hillary lied when she claimed she wasn't behind the scam. “The overwhelming evidence establishes that she played a role in the decision to fire the employees. … Thus, her statement to the contrary under oath was factually false.”

a. " Hillary described Travelgate with cool indifference as, “perhaps worthy of a two-or-three-week life span, instead, in a partisan political climate, it became the first manifestation of an obsession for investigation that persisted into the millennium.” But for Billy Dale, it wasn’t a partisan manifestation. It was the termination of a thirty-plus-year career, and a fight for his freedom. If convicted, he faced a maximum of twenty years in prison and up to $500,000 in fines.”

Read more: How Hillary Clinton sicced the FBI on the White House travel office
b. For you or I that would mean a perjury charge and criminal record for trying to destroy an innocent American who had served honorably under eight administrations and lying about it. For Hillary it meant a future as the junior New York Senator and then President Barack Obama’s Secretary of State." Ibid.

2. @ 0:58 Hillary's pal Vince Foster was involved in several of the Clinton scandals. When he was found dead: was that why Hillary had Foster's files ransacked before investigators could view them?
WASHINGTON, July 26— A Secret Service officer today flatly contradicted the White House account of the night of Vincent W. Foster Jr.'s death, telling the Senate Whitewater panel that he had seen Hillary Rodham Clinton's top aide remove files from Mr. Foster's office. The aide vehemently denied doing it.
Testifying under oath before the special Senate committee investigating Whitewater, the officer, Henry P. O'Neill, said that on July 20, 1993, several hours after Mr. Foster's body was found in a Virginia park, he saw Mrs. Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret A. Williams, carrying two handfuls of folders from Mr. Foster's office." 2 Conflicting Accounts on Files From White House Aide's Office
3. @ 1:47 To see how a President Hillary would 'rule,' take a look at her methods when Bill put her in charge of the earlier attempt at a take-over of healthcare: " WASHINGTON, Dec. 1— A Federal district judge said today that he intended to impose sanctions on Clinton Administration officials for their "misconduct" in a court case involving the disclosure of documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's task force on health care..... "The court understands plaintiffs' frustration with the defendants' misconduct during the course of this litigation, and the court intends to impose sanctions." Misconduct Found on Clinton Health Plan
The Kremlin would be proud!
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4. @4:07 Whitewater....15 Clinton pals were convicted of 40 federal crimes.
5. @4:35 Cattlegate...."... computerized records of her trades, which the White House obtained from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, show for the first time how she was able to turn her initial investment into $6,300 overnight. In about 10 months of trading, she made nearly $100,000, relying heavily on advice from her friend James B. Blair, an experienced futures trader.
The new records also raise the possibility that some of her profits -- as much as $40,000 – came from larger trades ordered by someone else and then shifted to her account,...." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm
a. "....guided through the risky trades by James Blair, a friend and top lawyer for one of Arkansas' most powerful companies, Tyson Foods Inc." Business | Hillary Clinton Invested $1,000, Netted $100,000 Through Trading | Seattle Times Newspaper
b. "....Tyson was everything shed been taught to despise at Wellesley and Yale, a greedy capitalist who hated labor unions and had no compunction about polluting Mother Earth for financial gain. Yet she allowed Blair, Big Daddys right-hand man, to manage her financial affairs. Second, assuming the speculation in Marshalls Magazine is correct, she was the conduit for a bribe." Democrook: Hillary Clinton
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6. @5:38 Raw naked power: Filegate. The Clintons illegally obtained FBI files on potential political enemies. "... in 1996 when it was discovered that the Clinton White House illegally obtained FBI files on adversaries, and used them to smear them, continues to this day. Strangely, although Mrs. Clinton is the principal defendant, and although there is sworn testimony, obtained during earlier discovery that Mrs. Clinton was the mastermind of this illegal scheme, the Court has never granted Plaintiffs requests to depose her —.... civil lawsuit which seeks to hold her accountable for illegally violating the privacy rights of American citizens she and her husband Bill Clinton viewed as political adversaries during their administration in the 1990s." Hillary Clinton tries to escape from on-going Filegate case @ FreedomWatchUSA.org
a. "It was also during this Filegate case that it was learned that President Clinton, on the advice of his top political adviser, James Carville, had illegally released Privacy Act protected information from White House files to smear Kathleen Willey, a woman who was a material witness in the impeachment proceedings, as she was also sexually harassed by the “philanderer in chief” while working for him in the White House."
Proof Hillary isn’t fit to be president
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7. @ 6:35 Chinagate. Foreign countries funneled millions into Clinton's campaign. ".... Hillary then masterminded a scheme whereby the Clinton-Gore presidential campaign of 1996 took bribes from communist Chinese banks and their government to bankroll the president’s and the Democratic Party’s re-election efforts ."
Proof Hillary isn’t fit to be president
a. "When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, Chinese missiles were greatly limited in terms of their range and accuracy. But as journalist Richard Poe noted in 2003, “Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.”.... "'We like your president. We want to see him reelected,' former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung.

"Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

"Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

"Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others." Bill Clinton - Discover the Networks
b. "Agents for the Chinese government and military funneled millions into President Clinton’s re-election campaign, the Clinton Legal Defense Fund and the DNC.
The DOJ reported “A pattern of events suggests a level of knowledge within the White House–including the President’s and First Lady’s offices–concerning the injection of foreign funds into the reelection effort.” LYBIO.net Is A Movement For Internet Online Accuracy For Speeches, Text, Words, Quotes and Lyrics.
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8. @6:35 ChinaGate Against campaign finance law, China donated to Bill Clinton's campaign so as to influence US policies. Agents for the Chinese government, and the military, funneled millions into Clinton's campaign.
DoJ: ...knowledge within the President's and First Lady's Offices...concerning the injection of foreign funds in the reelection effort.
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9. @7:10 Using the IRS against political enemies....a Democrat tactic. A senior IRS official admitted that Clinton opponents were singled out for audit....including Bill Clinton's female accusers.
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10. @ 7:45 PardonGate He issued pardons to 450 individuals including cocaine traffickers, terrorists and kidnappers. Several pardons directly benefitted Hillary Clinton, with ties to her NYSenate bid. Marc Rich was actually a fugitive on the run at the time...on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List....while his wife donated thousands to Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign, the Clinton Legal Defense Fund and the DNC.
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11. @12:00 As Senator....introduced three minor bills which became law in seven years. That includes naming a post office.
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12. @12:33 Enthusiastically voted for the Iraq War
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13. @13:10 "....prosecutors revealed Monday that the mastermind of Mayor Vincent C. Gray’s “shadow campaign” also funneled hundreds of thousands of dollars to aid Mrs. Clinton’s bid for the White House.
Jeffrey E. Thompson’s scheme included diverting more than $608,000 in illicit funds to a New York marketing executive, Troy White, who organized “street teams” to raise Mrs. Clinton’s visibility in urban areas during her Democratic primary battle against Barack Obama.
.....from February to May 2008, Thompson used two firms to disburse $608,750 in “excessive and unreported contributions to pay for campaign services in coordination with and in support of a federal political candidate for president of the United States and the federal and the candidate’s authorized committee.” That candidate was Mrs. Clinton." Hillary Clinton campaign received funds from Jeffrey Thompson
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14. @ 13:39 " State Department spokeswoman can't name Hillary Clinton's diplomatic achievements ... and neither can Hillary Clinton!
• Jen Psaki, the State Department's chief spokesperson, seemed blindsided by a question about Clinton's accomplishments
• A CNN panel erupted into laughter when Psaki's gaffe was shown
• Clinton herself couldn't articulate what she was 'most proud of' during her time as America's top diplomat when asked just weeks ago
Read more: State Department spokeswoman can't name Hillary Clinton's diplomatic achievements ... and neither could Hillary Clinton | Daily Mail Online
Not one achievement in her 4years collecting a salary from the taxpayers.
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15. @ 14:33 " The State Department misplaced and lost some $6 billion due to the improper filing of contracts during the past six years, mainly during the tenure of former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, according to a newly released Inspector General report." State Dept. misplaced $6B under Hillary Clinton: IG report
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16. @ 14:48 " Hillary's State Department Refused to Brand Boko Haram as Terrorists" Hillary's State Department Refused to Brand Boko Haram as Terrorists
Even though FBI, DoJ and CIA had requested it, so they could pursue group.Result was kidnapping of 300 Nigerian school girls.
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17. @ 14:58 A special investigator for the State Department found that with Hillary in charge, the following investigations were blocked or called off:
a) Sexual assaults by state dept security officials in Beirut
b) "Endemic" use of prostitutes by Hillary's security detail
c.) Drug use by state dept contractors in Baghdad
d) Solicitation of child male prostitutes by US ambassador in Belgium
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18. @16:10 Benghazi cover-up
Hillary testified that she had submitted all documents related to the inquiry. 20 months later....41 new documents were found....including changes to Susan Rice's talking points.
More documents are being withheld.
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19. "State Dept. Promises to Release Clinton Emails on Day That Literally Doesn’t Exist" State Dept. Promises to Release Clinton Emails on Day That Literally Doesn’t Exist
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20. This, from the Mexican paper...the NYTimes:
"In April 2012, representatives from Qatar were apparently hoping to get “five minutes” with former President Bill Clinton while in New York to present him with a $1 million check for his foundation as a birthday gift from the previous year.

While it is unclear whether that meeting ever took place, the offer,mentioned in one of thousands of hacked Clinton campaign emailsreleased by WikiLeaks last week, was an example of the complex ethical issues the Clinton Foundation faced in managing relationships with foreign governments when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. It also raised questions about whether the foundation had fully followed procedures it had voluntarily agreed to in order to avoid those very issues."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/us/politics/wikileaks-bill-clinton-foundation.html

All this off topic info is like....

I never saw one piece of cut-n-paste that has to do with the Ruskies...

funny i haven't seen any proof on the declaration of influence by the Ruskies? is there any or are you agreeing there isn't any?

 

[jc456]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

This, from Oct, 7.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.

Do you also need an example of voter tampering?

Uh oh.....Obama's rubbing your face in it:

"Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election"
Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart



You really feel stupid now, don't you.

The Joint statement addressed Vote Tapering also. Allow me to quote them and not a Breitphart headline.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

So just to recap. There is no conflict in the US intellegence assessment that Russia was behind the hacks.

correct, no hack.

 

[Crixus]

President Barack Obama emphatically denounced the conspiracy theory saying Russians successfully tampered with the American voting process.

“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he said. “And we’re confident that we can guard against.”

“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said."

Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart


Now Barry is flip-flopping like a caught bass in the bottom of the boat...

I still hope Trump shits all over the first half black presidents legacy. Same for any republican who encourages this nonsense.

 

[francoHFW]

President Barack Obama emphatically denounced the conspiracy theory saying Russians successfully tampered with the American voting process.

“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he said. “And we’re confident that we can guard against.”

“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said."

Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart


Now Barry is flip-flopping like a caught bass in the bottom of the boat...

No flip flop at all The only person talking about vote rigging was your orange hero DUHH. Yes, the e-mails were stolen, but were routine except to the 24/7/365 bs pundits and the cowardy corporate ratings chasers...and the dupes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

President Barack Obama emphatically denounced the conspiracy theory saying Russians successfully tampered with the American voting process.

“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he said. “And we’re confident that we can guard against.”

“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said."

Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart


Now Barry is flip-flopping like a caught bass in the bottom of the boat...

I still hope Trump shits all over the first half black presidents legacy. Same for any republican who encourages this nonsense.

What is the importance of 'black' in the running of the nation?

 

[g5000]

Now Barry is flip-flopping like a caught bass in the bottom of the boat...

Hey dumbshit. The issue of Russia's interference in our election was not about hacking voting machines.

 

[BlindBoo]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

This, from Oct, 7.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.

Do you also need an example of voter tampering?

numb nuts that is not voter tampering.
Not one vote was manipulated or changed...they are saying they believe some emails were compromised from some political organizations...an everyday event. We do it to them also rest assured.
Much ado about nothing.
But by all means keep gulping the Kool-Aid

The Oct 7 statement did not state with any level of confidence that there was any vote tampering. The first paragraph was about the illegally hacked DNC and Podesta's email and subsequent release intending to interfere with the election. Hey I'm not surprised you guy are cool with Russian playing around in our election and willfully ignore that the Russians got their man in. Congrats.

 

[BlindBoo]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

This, from Oct, 7.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.

Do you also need an example of voter tampering?

Uh oh.....Obama's rubbing your face in it:

"Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election"
Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart



You really feel stupid now, don't you.

The Joint statement addressed Vote Tapering also. Allow me to quote them and not a Breitphart headline.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

So just to recap. There is no conflict in the US intellegence assessment that Russia was behind the hacks.

correct, no hack.

Doesn't think they were able to hack into the voting machines. They do think Russia directed the email hacks and releases.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The Oct 7 statement did not state with any level of confidence that there was any vote tampering. The first paragraph was about the illegally hacked DNC and Podesta's email and subsequent release intending to interfere with the election. Hey I'm not surprised you guy are cool with Russian playing around in our election and willfully ignore that the Russians got their man in. Congrats.

And there is the Kool Aid. (Red my emphasis)
To go from the Russians reportedly hacking into political party emails...to this is why trump won - is just plain ol' stupid.
Thus - your a Kool Aid drinker.

 

[jknowgood]

Influencing and tampering are different words with different meanings.

I don't think they can decipher your meaning..Can you dumb it down a little more?

 

[jknowgood]

What was the 'influencing' to which you refer?

This, from Oct, 7.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.

Do you also need an example of voter tampering?

Uh oh.....Obama's rubbing your face in it:

"Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election"
Obama Crushes Conspiracy: No Evidence that Russia Tampered with Votes in Election - Breitbart



You really feel stupid now, don't you.

The Joint statement addressed Vote Tapering also. Allow me to quote them and not a Breitphart headline.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

So just to recap. There is no conflict in the US intellegence assessment that Russia was behind the hacks.

correct, no hack.

Doesn't think they were able to hack into the voting machines. They do think Russia directed the email hacks and releases.