Obama demands CUTS in Social Security!!!

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Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

April 5, 2013 19:23 EDT

Liberals fuming over Social Security cuts in Obama?s budget proposal | The Raw Story


Obama’s fiscal blueprint slashes the deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years, in what a senior administration official described as a “compromise offer” that cuts federal spending, finds savings in Social Security and raises tax revenue from the wealthy.

But Obama’s concession to conservatives in the form of reduced cost-of-living payouts for Social Security benefits could revive consideration of a deficit-reducing “grand bargain” that has proved elusive in recent years.

Such cuts to public pension programs and public health insurance for the elderly — seen as sacred cows for Obama’s Democrats — have been longstanding demands of Republicans.
 
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This is more racism from the democrats. Obozo won re-election by promising to give more free stuff to negros and hispos and that means EXPANDING welfare while slashing social security.
 
Wow, didnt he claim Romney was going to do that, but then he did it....more liberal projection.....who didnt know OBama was a shit talking crazy man.....you know he's desperate when he tosses the old people off a cliff.......HAHAHAHAH
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

April 5, 2013 19:23 EDT

Liberals fuming over Social Security cuts in Obama?s budget proposal | The Raw Story


Obama’s fiscal blueprint slashes the deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years, in what a senior administration official described as a “compromise offer” that cuts federal spending, finds savings in Social Security and raises tax revenue from the wealthy.

But Obama’s concession to conservatives in the form of reduced cost-of-living payouts for Social Security benefits could revive consideration of a deficit-reducing “grand bargain” that has proved elusive in recent years.

Such cuts to public pension programs and public health insurance for the elderly — seen as sacred cows for Obama’s Democrats — have been longstanding demands of Republicans.

I don't know, my father in law has gotten to the point where he hates the cost of living raise. Every time his social security payments increase, his food stamps go down. The government gets it out of you one way or another....

There is something seriously wrong here. Then again, social security was never intended to be the only retirement plan for a person, it was intended as a supplemental retirement plan. And they set the age at 65 because the average lifespan was 63. They never intended to pay out as much as they do.
 
Just another reason and solid argument for why SS should be taken off the Federal budget and administered away from the greed of the Democrats.
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

April 5, 2013 19:23 EDT

Liberals fuming over Social Security cuts in Obama?s budget proposal | The Raw Story


Obama’s fiscal blueprint slashes the deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years, in what a senior administration official described as a “compromise offer” that cuts federal spending, finds savings in Social Security and raises tax revenue from the wealthy.

But Obama’s concession to conservatives in the form of reduced cost-of-living payouts for Social Security benefits could revive consideration of a deficit-reducing “grand bargain” that has proved elusive in recent years.

Such cuts to public pension programs and public health insurance for the elderly — seen as sacred cows for Obama’s Democrats — have been longstanding demands of Republicans.

I don't know, my father in law has gotten to the point where he hates the cost of living raise. Every time his social security payments increase, his food stamps go down. The government gets it out of you one way or another....

There is something seriously wrong here. Then again, social security was never intended to be the only retirement plan for a person, it was intended as a supplemental retirement plan. And they set the age at 65 because the average lifespan was 63. They never intended to pay out as much as they do.

The problem is that people tend to be still wearing out at 62 but are living longer.
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

April 5, 2013 19:23 EDT

Liberals fuming over Social Security cuts in Obama?s budget proposal | The Raw Story


Obama’s fiscal blueprint slashes the deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years, in what a senior administration official described as a “compromise offer” that cuts federal spending, finds savings in Social Security and raises tax revenue from the wealthy.

But Obama’s concession to conservatives in the form of reduced cost-of-living payouts for Social Security benefits could revive consideration of a deficit-reducing “grand bargain” that has proved elusive in recent years.

Such cuts to public pension programs and public health insurance for the elderly — seen as sacred cows for Obama’s Democrats — have been longstanding demands of Republicans.

You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

April 5, 2013 19:23 EDT

Liberals fuming over Social Security cuts in Obama?s budget proposal | The Raw Story


Obama’s fiscal blueprint slashes the deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years, in what a senior administration official described as a “compromise offer” that cuts federal spending, finds savings in Social Security and raises tax revenue from the wealthy.

But Obama’s concession to conservatives in the form of reduced cost-of-living payouts for Social Security benefits could revive consideration of a deficit-reducing “grand bargain” that has proved elusive in recent years.

Such cuts to public pension programs and public health insurance for the elderly — seen as sacred cows for Obama’s Democrats — have been longstanding demands of Republicans.

You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

More Daily KOS propaganda, we want it out of the government and done privately so we can have more money and not have it drained to cover up deficits...
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

I don't know, my father in law has gotten to the point where he hates the cost of living raise. Every time his social security payments increase, his food stamps go down. The government gets it out of you one way or another....

There is something seriously wrong here. Then again, social security was never intended to be the only retirement plan for a person, it was intended as a supplemental retirement plan. And they set the age at 65 because the average lifespan was 63. They never intended to pay out as much as they do.

The problem is that people tend to be still wearing out at 62 but are living longer.

Yeah, and they've raised the retirement age to get full social security benefits.
 
You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

Sadly, it's not a goal of theirs at all. The worst government programs ever are social security/medicare and obamacare. Those are the specific programs that make every American dependent on government for their basic needs, retirement and medical care. It's sick.

When Republicans propose slowing the growth in those financial monstrosities, this is what you come up with, that they want to "destroy" it. This is why those of us who actually still believe in liberty are in such a small minority.
 
Dammit. There should be NO reductions in SS until all welfare is eliminated. Welfare is charity while SS is a debt govt owes to the recipients. They paid the money and they want it back!

You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

More Daily KOS propaganda, we want it out of the government and done privately so we can have more money and not have it drained to cover up deficits...

More Beck propaganda. The only reason social security cuts are part of this bill is because the GOP is demanding them to be there, just like they do at every chance they get.
 
Every time his social security payments increase, his food stamps go down. The government gets it out of you one way or another....

OMG, how far the left has gone. Achievers talk about how when the government taxes us they get it out of us one way or another. Liberals talk about how government reducing one welfare check or another away from you in the same way.

That's just sad. :(
 
Obama hasn't done anything yet. Which doesn't mean he won't, but this is apparently a bargaining gambit, something nutballs have demonstrated no understanding of since Reagan tripled the debt and Junebug doubled it without a whimper from the nutballs crying bloody murder now.

Moving on, one wonders how many rational SS collectors "hate" colas?

Nothing strange or diabolical about welfare (e.g. food stamps) declining as other income (e.g. earned social security) goes up. Most welfare, it appears, is means tested.
 
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You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

Sadly, it's not a goal of theirs at all. The worst government programs ever are social security/medicare and obamacare. Those are the specific programs that make every American dependent on government for their basic needs, retirement and medical care. It's sick.

When Republicans propose slowing the growth in those financial monstrosities, this is what you come up with, that they want to "destroy" it. This is why those of us who actually still believe in liberty are in such a small minority.

Social security and medicare have been very effective. If the GOP had their way and both were eliminated, we would see welfare recipients skyrocketing, ER's would have lines around the block 24 hours a day as people would have no other way to see a doctor, insurance premiums would be so high because of it, it would become a luxury just to have it, poverty and homelessness would soar, the elderly dieing at early ages from lack of income and access to healthcare, it would be a complete disaster.
 
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You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

Sadly, it's not a goal of theirs at all. The worst government programs ever are social security/medicare and obamacare. Those are the specific programs that make every American dependent on government for their basic needs, retirement and medical care. It's sick.

When Republicans propose slowing the growth in those financial monstrosities, this is what you come up with, that they want to "destroy" it. This is why those of us who actually still believe in liberty are in such a small minority.

Social security and medicare have been very effective. If the GOP had their way and both were eliminated, we would see welfare recipients skyrocketing, ER's would have lines around the block 24 hours a day as people would have no other way to see a doctor, insurance premiums would be so high because of it, it would become a luxury just to have it, poverty and homelessness would soar, the elderly dieing at early ages from lack of income and access to healthcare, it would be a complete disaster.

Social security and medicare have been very effective.

Yes! Very effective.........at bankrupting the country.
 
Instead of means testing social security, perhaps it should be race based. Blacks and hispanics who have never worked or achieved get it, whites and asians do not.
 
You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

Sadly, it's not a goal of theirs at all. The worst government programs ever are social security/medicare and obamacare. Those are the specific programs that make every American dependent on government for their basic needs, retirement and medical care. It's sick.

When Republicans propose slowing the growth in those financial monstrosities, this is what you come up with, that they want to "destroy" it. This is why those of us who actually still believe in liberty are in such a small minority.

Social security and medicare have been very effective. If the GOP had their way and both were eliminated ...
Actually as I said the Republicans don't support this. Rather than showing what you're talking about, you just repeated your ridiculous claim as if it were true. This is a logical fallacy called "begging the question." It's nonsense.

On the other hand I do support ending them, so I'll address your points.


... we would see welfare recipients skyrocketing, ER's would have lines around the block 24 hours a day as people would have no other way to see a doctor, insurance premiums would be so high because of it, it would become a luxury just to have it, poverty and homelessness would soar, the elderly dieing at early ages from lack of income and access to healthcare, it would be a complete disaster.

Even if the Federal government were to continue to be the source of welfare, this is a preposterous claim. How in any possible way would it be cheaper to only write checks to a few people who legitimately couldn't save and a bunch more who weren't responsible enough to than it would be for government to write a check to freaking everyone? It's preposterous.

Furthermore, welfare would be far more effective at the State and local level. And we should look to private sources of charity first. Government should be involved in welfare as a last and not first resort, and the Federal Government shouldn't be involved in it at all.
 
You do realize it's one of the GOP's top goals to destroy social security, don't you?

Not destroy, privatize. Democrats have been robbing from SS for years to buy votes by handing out more welfare. Repubs want that to stop.
 

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