Obama Planning On Pardoning Thousands Of Criminals

[Meister]

I disagree. If a non-violent drug offender has served the time that he/she would have been required to serve under newer sentencing guidelines, I have no problem with letting him/her out.

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

Government never embraced the term "oversight" very well.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

Government never embraced the term "oversight" very well.

Tell that to Cliven Bundy

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

Government never embraced the term "oversight" very well.

Politicians care more about their public image than anything else, and most of them aren't stupid.

No one wants another Willie Horton.

 

[Iceweasel]

OK, so do I understand you correctly that you think release from jail should be contingent on economic conditions?

You "understood" that? I think we should replace the assholes ruining the economy and release prisoners if it makes sense.

 

[Meister]

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

Government never embraced the term "oversight" very well.

Tell that to Cliven Bundy

Tell that to medicare, medicaid, welfare, etc.......

 

[Meister]

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

Government never embraced the term "oversight" very well.

Politicians care more about their public image than anything else, and most of them aren't stupid.

No one wants another Willie Horton.

Understood, I was just going with their track record.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

All these anti-capitalist schmucks need to go find the socialist/marxist dream in places like cuba, venezuela or greece... Utopias for downtrodden , illiterate, imbeciles.....

 

[nodoginnafight]

OK, so do I understand you correctly that you think release from jail should be contingent on economic conditions?

You "understood" that? I think we should replace the assholes ruining the economy and release prisoners if it makes sense.

I was asking what your position was - I didn't claim to understand what it was. And I still don't.

 

[nodoginnafight]

All these anti-capitalist schmucks need to go find the socialist/marxist dream in places like cuba, venezuela or greece... Utopias for downtrodden , illiterate, imbeciles.....

How does that link up with commuting sentences for non-violent drug offenders?

 

[Iceweasel]

I was asking what your position was - I didn't claim to understand what it was. And I still don't.

I posted it several times in this thread.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I was asking what your position was - I didn't claim to understand what it was. And I still don't.

I posted it several times in this thread.

Ok, thanks.

 

[mudwhistle]

I disagree. If a non-violent drug offender has served the time that he/she would have been required to serve under newer sentencing guidelines, I have no problem with letting him/her out.

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

I look at the rollout of Obamacare and feel certain they won't.

This administration will fuck it up and simply call the critics racist, and you asswads will back them up 100%

 

[Mustang]

before they let these Criminals loose on us they will have people in the jails to sign them for welfare because there isn't enough jobs for us let alone them and the millions of illegal immigrants they plan on giving special treatment over YOU


my gawd save us from these people, and I mean the ones in this administration.

Releasing these people from prison is a capitalist's dream come true. By increasing the number of workers vying for the same number of jobs, wages can be driven down even further.

Hell, what's even BETTER than that is the fact that people who get paid more money than employers would prefer to pay (perhaps like you or others in your family) can then be let go and replaced with new cheaper labor who would be oh-so-grateful to have your job at perhaps half of what you were earning.

I appreciate what you are saying here.
But with all the opportunities available to the motivated in the United States, if you haven't educated yourself, or made yourself a more valuable employee than any ol' con that can be snatched off the street - I have to think you've been doing something wrong.

With few, if any, exceptions, there's nobody who isn't relatively easily replaceable at some point (if not several points) in their careers with people who are younger, hungrier, and perhaps even a little sharper as well as being cheaper in the process.

 

[Old Rocks]

Good point. Next time some fruitloops threaton federal agents with guns, time to hang a bunch of them for treason.

The sentencing of people for growing and distributing pot has been a travesty for my entire life. They give someone that kills a child less time than someone caught with an ounce of pot.

What is tying the tails of the 'Conservatives' in knots is this is a popular move with most sane Americans, liberal or conservative.

Who's been thrown in prison for an ounce of pot?

If your wetdream comes true and militiamen get hung or even thrown in prison I think it will have the opposite effect you think.

Man Gets Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison For A Half Ounce Of Marijuana | The Weed Blog

Louisiana is one of the worst places to get busted with marijuana in the country. Louisiana marijuana laws are so harsh that I can’t imagine being a marijuana consumer there. I live in Oregon where the marijuana laws are very liberal, so maybe Louisiana’s laws seem harsher to me than to other people, but I can’t imagine being sentenced to twenty years in prison for a marijuana offense.

But that is exactly what happened to Corey Ladd. Mr. Ladd was sentenced to twenty years in prison for possessing just 15 grams of marijuana. In Louisiana, if you have been convicted of marijuana possession three times you can get 20 years in prison. It feels weird even typing that out. 20 years in prison, for marijuana. I don’t care how many times you have been convicted for marijuana, or what amount of marijuana you were caught with, there is no reason you should be serving multiple decades in prison for a marijuana only offense. What a waste of tax dollars. What a waste of a jail bed that should be reserved for a deranged, violent person.



A Texas asthma sufferer who went to California for a medical marijuana recommendation and then got busted in June on a Texas highway with small amounts of marijuana and hashish is facing up to life in prison after being indicted by a Brown County grand jury. He is charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver, a first-degree felony in the Lone Star State.

Medical Marijuana Patient Faces Life in Prison for a Half Ounce in Texas | StoptheDrugWar.org

Chris Diaz
Chris Diaz, 20, has been jailed on $40,000 bond since the June 27 arrest. He was busted with 14 grams of weed and hash.

Under Texas law, possession of less than two ounces of marijuana is a Class B misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail, while possession of hashish is either a state jail felony punishable by up to two years for less than a gram, or a second-class felony punishable by up to 20 years if less than four grams, although probation is also possible. It is unclear exactly how much hash Diaz had.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Releasing these people from prison is a capitalist's dream come true. By increasing the number of workers vying for the same number of jobs, wages can be driven down even further.

Hell, what's even BETTER than that is the fact that people who get paid more money than employers would prefer to pay (perhaps like you or others in your family) can then be let go and replaced with new cheaper labor who would be oh-so-grateful to have your job at perhaps half of what you were earning.

I appreciate what you are saying here.
But with all the opportunities available to the motivated in the United States, if you haven't educated yourself, or made yourself a more valuable employee than any ol' con that can be snatched off the street - I have to think you've been doing something wrong.

With few, if any, exceptions, there's nobody who isn't relatively easily replaceable at some point (if not several points) in their careers with people who are younger, hungrier, and perhaps even a little sharper as well as being cheaper in the process.

I don't have any statistics, and I'm generally not a big fan of anecdotal evidence, but I have never seen a good employee canned for a con off the streets. Have you?

 

[Iceweasel]

Man Gets Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison For A Half Ounce Of Marijuana | The Weed Blog

There's no source in the article.

It is unclear exactly how much hash Diaz had.

 

[Redfish]

I disagree. If a non-violent drug offender has served the time that he/she would have been required to serve under newer sentencing guidelines, I have no problem with letting him/her out.

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

the administration said they were going to release everyone who was sentenced under the old guidelines. did they lie again?

 

[Redfish]

before they let these Criminals loose on us they will have people in the jails to sign them for welfare because there isn't enough jobs for us let alone them and the millions of illegal immigrants they plan on giving special treatment over YOU


my gawd save us from these people, and I mean the ones in this administration.

Releasing these people from prison is a capitalist's dream come true. By increasing the number of workers vying for the same number of jobs, wages can be driven down even further.

Hell, what's even BETTER than that is the fact that people who get paid more money than employers would prefer to pay (perhaps like you or others in your family) can then be let go and replaced with new cheaper labor who would be oh-so-grateful to have your job at perhaps half of what you were earning.

LOL, 95% of them will immediately go on welfare, food stamps, medicaid, subsidized housing, free cell phones, and every other giveaway available. Who do you think is going to hire someone who has been in jail for several years for being a pot head?

 

[Mustang]

I appreciate what you are saying here.
But with all the opportunities available to the motivated in the United States, if you haven't educated yourself, or made yourself a more valuable employee than any ol' con that can be snatched off the street - I have to think you've been doing something wrong.

With few, if any, exceptions, there's nobody who isn't relatively easily replaceable at some point (if not several points) in their careers with people who are younger, hungrier, and perhaps even a little sharper as well as being cheaper in the process.

I don't have any statistics, and I'm generally not a big fan of anecdotal evidence, but I have never seen a good employee canned for a con off the streets. Have you?

That wasn't my contention, although I can see where I wasn't entirely clear about it. Greater numbers of workers doesn't mean that the people at the bottom will catapult to the top. It means that all through the economy, higher paid workers at all levels of the economy can be replaced with lower paid workers with equivalent backgrounds because it's more of an employers' market.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Nor do I, but it should be on a case by case basis, not a blanket release of thousands of people.

What is a "blanket release"?

What makes you think that each of those imaginary "thousands" being released aren't being thoroughly investigated before release?

the administration said they were going to release everyone who was sentenced under the old guidelines. did they lie again?

They didn't say anything about "everyone".