Obama the wisest president since Kennedy, does it again!!

[Roadrunner]

No links..........? Bwahahaha.......you lose asswipe.

OINK OINK...you're a pig, asswipe.

p.s. nobody gives a shit what Kofi Annan says.

You are wasting your breath bro!

Mertex more concerned with acronyms than real world shit, like university massacres and today, seizure of Palestinian refugee camp in Syria by whatever the fuck you want to call them.

Says the moron who supports that other asshole who wanted to keep our young men and women in Iraq without any protection......why don't you two volunteer to go fight the war if you're so damn interested in another war.

You have a link to me wanting a war?

Get you head out of your dried up twat, and read my posts.

I don't want us in the ME period; I want them at each others throats forever and eternity, and us at full employment building and selling them the instruments of death.

 

[Mertex]

For the conservative morons who think they know so much but have their heads up their ass......

ISIL began in Iraq.......if you have credible information that it didn't, post it otherwise STFU.

Several reports suggested Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's security forces discarded their uniforms and weapons, fleeing cities without even engaging ISIL, despite the fact that they far outnumber the militants. An off-shoot of Al Qaeda, ISIL evolved from Al Qaeda in Iraq and has been active in Syria since last year, fighting not just Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces but other more moderate Syrian rebels as well.

Where ISIL the jihadist group that is seizing Iraq came from and what it wants GlobalPost

Kofi Annan, the former Secretary-General of the United Nations, said at the Munich Security Conference this weekend that the US invasion of Iraq helped lead to the creation of the Islamic State (ISIS).
Kofi Annan America s Invasion of Iraq Helped Create ISIS

ISIS used to be al-Qaeda in Iraq - 17 things about ISIS and Iraq you need to nbsp know - Vox

While idiots bitch over what acronym of the week these thugs are using, the Black Flag is flying in Afghanistan as ISIL/ISIS/EL KABONG or whatever the fuck you want to call them is taking over the Muslim world from Mauritania to the Philippines.

JV was a bit tougher than what Obama thought; time to throw him another Nobel Prize for his wonderful foreign policy.

Fuckin' idiots.......!

You're the fucking idiot. Before Bush invaded Iraq nobody gave a shit that they were killing each other in the ME.....but fucking conservatives have to stir shit everywhere.....thank George W. Bush for that.

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

 

[BullKurtz]

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

 

[Katzndogz]

No links..........? Bwahahaha.......you lose asswipe.

OINK OINK...you're a pig, asswipe.

p.s. nobody gives a shit what Kofi Annan says.

You are wasting your breath bro!

Mertex more concerned with acronyms than real world shit, like university massacres and today, seizure of Palestinian refugee camp in Syria by whatever the fuck you want to call them.

Says the moron who supports that other asshole who wanted to keep our young men and women in Iraq without any protection......why don't you two volunteer to go fight the war if you're so damn interested in another war.

You have a link to me wanting a war?

Get you head out of your dried up twat, and read my posts.

I don't want us in the ME period; I want them at each others throats forever and eternity, and us at full employment building and selling them the instruments of death.

What a good idea! It would actually work if we weren't importing jihad as fast as the planes can land.

 

[Roadrunner]

For the conservative morons who think they know so much but have their heads up their ass......

ISIL began in Iraq.......if you have credible information that it didn't, post it otherwise STFU.

Several reports suggested Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's security forces discarded their uniforms and weapons, fleeing cities without even engaging ISIL, despite the fact that they far outnumber the militants. An off-shoot of Al Qaeda, ISIL evolved from Al Qaeda in Iraq and has been active in Syria since last year, fighting not just Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces but other more moderate Syrian rebels as well.

Where ISIL the jihadist group that is seizing Iraq came from and what it wants GlobalPost

Kofi Annan, the former Secretary-General of the United Nations, said at the Munich Security Conference this weekend that the US invasion of Iraq helped lead to the creation of the Islamic State (ISIS).
Kofi Annan America s Invasion of Iraq Helped Create ISIS

ISIS used to be al-Qaeda in Iraq - 17 things about ISIS and Iraq you need to nbsp know - Vox

While idiots bitch over what acronym of the week these thugs are using, the Black Flag is flying in Afghanistan as ISIL/ISIS/EL KABONG or whatever the fuck you want to call them is taking over the Muslim world from Mauritania to the Philippines.

JV was a bit tougher than what Obama thought; time to throw him another Nobel Prize for his wonderful foreign policy.

Fuckin' idiots.......!

You're the fucking idiot. Before Bush invaded Iraq nobody gave a shit that they were killing each other in the ME.....but fucking conservatives have to stir shit everywhere.....thank George W. Bush for that.

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

 

[whitehall]

"Don't kiss the white man's ass" and "make Israel shit bullets". The low information is far too easy to please even if they ain't got a clue about what is on the table.

 

[Mertex]

No links..........? Bwahahaha.......you lose asswipe.

OINK OINK...you're a pig, asswipe.

p.s. nobody gives a shit what Kofi Annan says.

You are wasting your breath bro!

Mertex more concerned with acronyms than real world shit, like university massacres and today, seizure of Palestinian refugee camp in Syria by whatever the fuck you want to call them.

Says the moron who supports that other asshole who wanted to keep our young men and women in Iraq without any protection......why don't you two volunteer to go fight the war if you're so damn interested in another war.

You have a link to me wanting a war?

Don't you support the 47 morons that wrote a letter to Iran and the rest of the GOP who are now not happy with the deal Obama made? What else is there to do but go to war if that's the best deal we're going to get out of Iran?

Get you head out of your dried up twat, and read my posts.

Your posts are crap, why would I want to bother reading crap? You're the one that butted in with my posts with someone else, so get your head out of your wrinkled prune ass and pay attention.

I don't want us in the ME period; I want them at each others throats forever and eternity, and us at full employment building and selling them the instruments of death.

I don't want us in the ME either. That is why I supported Obama when he pulled the troops out because he could not secure another agreement to keep our young men and women safe. My son fought in Iraq, and I sure as hell didn't want him there to be killed to help Iraq get a democracy, which is what Bush decided we were there for, after we found out that Iraq didn't have WMDs, like Bush has insisted. What the hell do we care if Iraq has a democracy or not, the idiots can't even agree on their same religion, Islam.

 

[Mertex]

For the conservative morons who think they know so much but have their heads up their ass......

ISIL began in Iraq.......if you have credible information that it didn't, post it otherwise STFU.

Several reports suggested Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's security forces discarded their uniforms and weapons, fleeing cities without even engaging ISIL, despite the fact that they far outnumber the militants. An off-shoot of Al Qaeda, ISIL evolved from Al Qaeda in Iraq and has been active in Syria since last year, fighting not just Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces but other more moderate Syrian rebels as well.

Where ISIL the jihadist group that is seizing Iraq came from and what it wants GlobalPost

Kofi Annan, the former Secretary-General of the United Nations, said at the Munich Security Conference this weekend that the US invasion of Iraq helped lead to the creation of the Islamic State (ISIS).
Kofi Annan America s Invasion of Iraq Helped Create ISIS

ISIS used to be al-Qaeda in Iraq - 17 things about ISIS and Iraq you need to nbsp know - Vox

While idiots bitch over what acronym of the week these thugs are using, the Black Flag is flying in Afghanistan as ISIL/ISIS/EL KABONG or whatever the fuck you want to call them is taking over the Muslim world from Mauritania to the Philippines.

JV was a bit tougher than what Obama thought; time to throw him another Nobel Prize for his wonderful foreign policy.

Fuckin' idiots.......!

You're the fucking idiot. Before Bush invaded Iraq nobody gave a shit that they were killing each other in the ME.....but fucking conservatives have to stir shit everywhere.....thank George W. Bush for that.

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

I don't have a dried up useless twat, pussy.....but you sure have a tiny weenie, otherwise you wouldn't be acting so tough. Most men with little weenies act tough, like you.

Fact...pussy.

 

[Roadrunner]

While idiots bitch over what acronym of the week these thugs are using, the Black Flag is flying in Afghanistan as ISIL/ISIS/EL KABONG or whatever the fuck you want to call them is taking over the Muslim world from Mauritania to the Philippines.

JV was a bit tougher than what Obama thought; time to throw him another Nobel Prize for his wonderful foreign policy.

Fuckin' idiots.......!

You're the fucking idiot. Before Bush invaded Iraq nobody gave a shit that they were killing each other in the ME.....but fucking conservatives have to stir shit everywhere.....thank George W. Bush for that.

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

I don't have a dried up useless twat, pussy.....but you sure have a tiny weenie, otherwise you wouldn't be acting so tough. Most men with little weenies act tough, like you.

Fact...pussy.

You are not a m*d*r*t*r here, and can't hide behind that any more.

And yes, you are a dried out, old twat.

 

[Mertex]

You're the fucking idiot. Before Bush invaded Iraq nobody gave a shit that they were killing each other in the ME.....but fucking conservatives have to stir shit everywhere.....thank George W. Bush for that.

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

I don't have a dried up useless twat, pussy.....but you sure have a tiny weenie, otherwise you wouldn't be acting so tough. Most men with little weenies act tough, like you.

Fact...pussy.

You are not a m*d*r*t*r here, and can't hide behind that any more.

And yes, you are a dried out, old twat.

I never was a mdrtr here, and I don't have to hide from pussies like you.

And yes, you have a tiny weenie and have to use Viagra to get it to wiggle.

 

[BullKurtz]

The difference between Dubya and the Rats above is that he did something about Saddam....hanged his ass and has his pistol.

 

[BullKurtz]

FLASHBACK Where did Saddam s WMD go To Syria ... - World Tribune World Tribune

(Originally posted on Aug. 26, 2003.)

U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction have finally been located.

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic materials are not in Iraq.

Satellite photo of hundreds of trucks systematically leaving an Iraqi weapons dump, early 2003.

Instead they are located in Lebanon’s heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi agents, Geostrategy-Direct.com will report in Wednesday’s (Sept. 2, 2003) weekly edition.

U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebanon in January 2003. The significance of this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time.

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.

Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to Syria’s rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.

The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam’s strategic weapons.

Not surprisingly, U.S. inquiries in Beirut and Syria are being met with little substantive response, U.S. officials said.

 

[Roadrunner]

Nobody cared?

Why did we interfere and help end the Iran/Iraq War then, you dried up old crone?

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

I don't have a dried up useless twat, pussy.....but you sure have a tiny weenie, otherwise you wouldn't be acting so tough. Most men with little weenies act tough, like you.

Fact...pussy.

You are not a m*d*r*t*r here, and can't hide behind that any more.

And yes, you are a dried out, old twat.

I never was a mdrtr here, and I don't have to hide from pussies like you.





And yes, you have a tiny weenie and have to use Viagra to get it to wiggle.

Of course you were not one here.

You were one at the *ther*r pl*ac*.

I know EXACTLY who you are.

 

[Mertex]

Why Bush Is A Loser

Shut up moron with a tiny weenie........The United States fought in the Persian Gulf War in order to preserve Kuwaiti independence and to keep the lines open for Persian Gulf petroleum.

We didn't have any business invading Iraq.......it was all idiot Bush's idea to show pappy that he was a big macho war president, and he ended up looking like a doofus.

I don't have a tiny weenie, but you do have a dried up useless twat.

FACT, bitch.

I don't have a dried up useless twat, pussy.....but you sure have a tiny weenie, otherwise you wouldn't be acting so tough. Most men with little weenies act tough, like you.

Fact...pussy.

You are not a m*d*r*t*r here, and can't hide behind that any more.

And yes, you are a dried out, old twat.

I never was a mdrtr here, and I don't have to hide from pussies like you.






And yes, you have a tiny weenie and have to use Viagra to get it to wiggle.

Of course you were not one here.

You were one at the *ther*r pl*ac*.

I know EXACTLY who you are.

I don't remember you....and who cares.

 

[Mertex]

Conservatives here are like Kristol.......they're holding out hope that Bush will someday turn up to be the best president........bwahahaha.


The Bush-Cheney years have been marked by ineptitude, miscalculation, and scandal. A successful presidency? Bush will be lucky if he gets a public elementary school in his adopted hometown of Crawford, Tex., named after him. He has placed this country in a hole. Yet Kristol, with shovel in hand, points to that hole and says, Trust me -- we're about to strike oil!

If it's true that history repeats first as tragedy and then as farce, Kristol has short-circuited the process and gone straight to parody. His Bush boosterism -- an act of self-justification -- would be amusing were it not for all the damage he has helped Bush to cause.

Why Bush Is A Loser

 

[Oldstyle]

This has nothing to do with W! Bush has been back in Texas cutting brush and riding his mountain bike for the past six years! This is about a total lack of a coherent Middle East policy from Barack Obama. Everything he touches in that part of the world instantly turns to shit! Name a country that's in better shape NOW than it was when Barry took office! Syria? It's a burnt out ruin. Yemen? Embroiled in civil war. Iraq? Overrun by ISIS. Libya? Being co-opted by extremists. Egypt? Israel? Gaza? Iran? Name a "win" for Barack Obama ANYWHERE in the Middle East?

What do you mean it has nothing to do with Bush? Bush should have in Texas cutting brush and riding his tricycle instead of invading Iraq, since that is probably the only thing he is good at. He broke it and he owns it, and no matter how much conservatives want to redeem him, the Doofus is still responsible for the mess he started.

ISIS started up in 2004, right smack in the middle of Bush's presidency. Own it.

And when did ISIS invade Iraq?

 

[Oldstyle]

Conservatives here are like Kristol.......they're holding out hope that Bush will someday turn up to be the best president........bwahahaha.


The Bush-Cheney years have been marked by ineptitude, miscalculation, and scandal. A successful presidency? Bush will be lucky if he gets a public elementary school in his adopted hometown of Crawford, Tex., named after him. He has placed this country in a hole. Yet Kristol, with shovel in hand, points to that hole and says, Trust me -- we're about to strike oil!

If it's true that history repeats first as tragedy and then as farce, Kristol has short-circuited the process and gone straight to parody. His Bush boosterism -- an act of self-justification -- would be amusing were it not for all the damage he has helped Bush to cause.

Why Bush Is A Loser

Dude...seriously? When it comes to "ineptitude, miscalculation and scandal" I don't think there has EVER been an Administration that even comes close to what Barack Obama has given us! You're talking about a group of people who were SO BAD that their motto became "Don't do stupid stuff!" I mean that's who we've been saddled with for six painful years!

 

[Mertex]

Conservatives here are like Kristol.......they're holding out hope that Bush will someday turn up to be the best president........bwahahaha.


The Bush-Cheney years have been marked by ineptitude, miscalculation, and scandal. A successful presidency? Bush will be lucky if he gets a public elementary school in his adopted hometown of Crawford, Tex., named after him. He has placed this country in a hole. Yet Kristol, with shovel in hand, points to that hole and says, Trust me -- we're about to strike oil!

If it's true that history repeats first as tragedy and then as farce, Kristol has short-circuited the process and gone straight to parody. His Bush boosterism -- an act of self-justification -- would be amusing were it not for all the damage he has helped Bush to cause.

Why Bush Is A Loser

Dude...seriously? When it comes to "ineptitude, miscalculation and scandal" I don't think there has EVER been an Administration that even comes close to what Barack Obama has given us! You're talking about a group of people who were SO BAD that their motto became "Don't do stupid stuff!" I mean that's who we've been saddled with for six painful years!

You're delusional. The only ones that think that way are the right-wing extremists who don't know much but just accept what Faux News tells them. Dude....you need to get out of that bubble once in a while and experience reality. Everyone knows that George W. Bush was a total failure.....he may end up being the worst President of all presidents we've ever had. Face it, it isn't just George W. Bush...it's Republican policies that suck. Just accept it.


The dedication of the George W. Bush library gives loyalists of the former president a chance to highlight what they see as the positive legacy of his eight years in office.

But even among supporters there is a sense he'll never be given historical vindication.

Former White House press secretary Ari Fleisher told NBC News: "I'm increasingly doubtful, just because I think the lens of history is not changing. A lot of us used to say President Bush will look good and he'll be vindicated in the public eye. But realistically speaking, I don't see a lot of the people who write history all of a sudden changing their mind about George W. Bush."

As Jill Lawrence points out, the polling of historians seems to back this up.

Nearly 60 percent of the historians and political scientists in a 2006 Siena College survey rated Bush's presidency a failure and two-thirds said he did not have a realistic chance of improving his standing.

Was George W. Bush the worst president ever


Obama’s résumé of accomplishments is broad and deep, running the gamut from economic to social to foreign policy. The general thrust of his reforms, especially in economic policy, has been a combination of politically radical and ideologically moderate. The combination has confused liberals into thinking of Obamaism as a series of sad half-measures, and conservatives to deem it socialism, but the truth is neither. Obama’s agenda has generally hewed to the consensus of mainstream economists and policy experts.
Barack Obama Is a Great President. Yes Great. -- NYMag

 

[Mertex]

Bwahahaha.....all those quotes attributed to democrats regarding WMDs....turns out conservatives specifically (BullCrap) is being dishonest......nothing new. Liar.

Origins: All of the quotes listed above are substantially correct reproductions of words uttered by various Democratic leaders regarding Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction. However, as is typical of such lists, some of the quotes are truncated — and all of them are provided without context — so as to reinforce the author's point of view even when the proffered material does not fit it. Namely, several of these quotes were offered in the course of statements that clearly indicated the speaker was decidedly against unilateral military intervention in Iraq by the U.S. Moreover, several of the quotes offered antedate the four nights of airstrikes unleashed against Iraq by U.S. and British forces during Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, after which Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) announced the action had been successful in "degrad[ing] Saddam Hussein's ability to deliver chemical, biological and nuclear weapons."
Read more at snopes.com Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

 

[Bfgrn]

WHY is it so hard for you to understand that Iraq is a sovereign nation? There was no possible SOFA agreement that Iraq would sign that would protect American soldiers from legal protections and immunities required to ensure soldiers didn’t end up in Iraqi jails.

Yet George W. Bush...who you progressives have labeled the "village idiot...somehow managed to obtain a SOFA from Iraq...but it was IMPOSSIBLE for Barack Obama "the smartest President EVER!" according to progressive theology to do the same?

What Panetta revealed in his book was that Obama made little to no effort to ever obtain a new SOFA. That's the reality of what took place...despite the assurances of Colin Kahl!

"And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient - that we are only six percent of the world's population - that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind - that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity - and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
President John F. Kennedy

You are parroting right wing bullshit OS...

WHAT don't you understand? All the "hard work" in the world was NOT going to create a SOFA that was favorable to the US. Too many Iraqi's despise America after we invaded, occupied and killed their citizens. We are NOT viewed as liberators, we are viewed as occupiers.

Panetta has a right to his opinion, but A) it is not his name that signs the bottom of a SOFA, and B) the insight of Colin H. Kahl carries much more weight. He was an integral part of the negotiations. C) When the SOFA Bush hastily signed in 2008 expired in 2011, ISIS in Iraq was not even on the radar screen.

The blame for Iraq falls squarely on Bush, not Obama...the moment he invaded Iraq, HE owned it.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it. While he was inclined to see a small number of American soldiers stay behind to continue mentoring Iraqi forces, the likes of Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, on whose support Maliki’s ruling coalition depends, were having none of it. Even the Obama Administration’s plan to keep some 3,000 trainers behind failed because the Iraqis were unwilling to grant them the legal immunity from local prosecution that is common to SOF agreements in most countries where U.S. forces are based.

So, while U.S. commanders would have liked to have kept a division or more behind in Iraq to face any contingencies — and, increasingly, Administration figures had begun citing the challenge of Iran, next door — it was Iraqi democracy that put the kibosh on that goal. The Bush Administration had agreed in 2004 to restore Iraqi sovereignty, and in 2005 put the country’s elected government in charge of shaping its destiny. But President Bush hadn’t anticipated that Iraqi democracy would see pro-U.S. parties sidelined and would, instead, consistently return governments closer to Tehran than they are to Washington. Contra expectations, a democratic Iraq has turned out to be at odds with much of U.S. regional strategy — first and foremost its campaign to isolate Iran.

So let me see if I follow your argument here...

A U.S. deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East supposedly knows more about the SOFA negotiations than the man who was Director of the CIA or Secretary of Defense during the time period in question? Really, Bfgrn? LOL

It's obvious that the Obama Administration trotted a junior level Administration adviser out to try and do damage control to Panetta's expose of Obama's failure of policy in Iraq. Kahl's piece is nothing more than a rather limp attempt to excuse Barack Obama's total lack of effort to obtain a new SOFA.

YES. He was DIRECTLY involved in THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

What you CAN'T comprehend is that IRAQ WAS NOT GOING TO offer a SOFA that gave our sons and daughters the immunities and protections needed to keep them out of Iraqi jails.

And the SOFA Bush signed and DID NOT take to Congress was WEAK on those immunities and protections.

So you really DO think that a Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense knew more about our negotiations with Iraq than Leon Panetta, the actual Secretary of Defense, did? That's amusing...really...

What Panetta pointed out was that Iraq was never going to offer us a SOFA deal if they felt that Barack Obama had no interest in keeping troops in Iraq to start with. Why would they? Why would any Iraqi politician vote for something that was unpopular (even if they realized that it was needed!) when they saw zero desire on Obama's part to keep troops in Iraq? Why would Obama put in the hard work to get a SOFA deal done when he fully intended to pull the troops out prior to running for reelection? That was the reality of the situation, Bfgrn...despite subsequent attempts by Obama flunky Kohl, to paint it differently.

I really don't give a shit what Panetta's opinion is. And by the way, you have presented ZERO links to what he said.

WHY are you unable to comprehend that no matter what Obama did, there would be no SOFA agreement that Iraq would approve without being able to treat American soldiers as subjects of Iraq. THAT is not in the best interests of America.

Funny how Leon Panetta was lauded by progressives for his impeccable reputation right up to the point where he leveled with us about what really went on with the SOFA negotiations...and then suddenly he's a "LIAR" or his opinion isn't worth "shit"!

Funny how W....who you all were convinced was a moron because he pronounced nuclear funny...was able to pull off a SOFA deal with Iraqi leaders...yet for Barack Obama it's now been declared an IMPOSSIBILITY!!!

Have you noticed that there are a LOT of things that are impossible for Barry and his little band of progressive misfits?

I said Panetta has a right to his opinion. I have never "lauded" the man.

What IS funny is that the right who hate everything connected with our President, NOW LAUD Leon Panetta.

Bush IS a moron. He has caused more damage in this world than any living human being. He was consistently wrong at every turn. He blatantly lied to the American people from the moment he took office. His first Treasury Secretary exposed who and what George W. Bush is...a MORON.

Bush didn't 'negotiate' a SOFA, he SIGNED an edict dictated by the Iraqi parliament or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat. He continued to throw America sons and daughters under the Bus, right up to the very end.