Obama to issue Executive Order overturning SCOTUS

[Peach]

I doubt it. I hope there can be fair protection for both those opposed to abortion, and those not opposed. Hope is in the heart however, my brain tells me the divide will continue. (I am on the "chastity is a virtue side")

You do grasp that this has no bearing on abortion, right? Anyone wanting an abortion can still go down to Planned Parenthood and get one.

This simply upheld the 1st Amendment, it protected the rights of business owners against infringement of their religious liberty by not forcing them to provide abortion or abortificants.

The democrats attempted to crush civil rights, the Court correctly sided with the Constitution.

Agree with all, except "Democrats tried to crush". I was referring to the actual issue, abortion. I respect those who believe life begins at conception, got that?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obama today stated that he will issue an order overturning the SCOTUS ruling on the mandate to provide abortion and contraceptives.

BREAKING: Obama to Look at How He Can Act on His Own to Mitigate Contraception Mandate Ruling - Katie Pavlich

What are you complaining about? It is the natural right of every fascist dictator.

everybody's a fascist but JIM....

Duhs, you're not the sharpest marshmallow in the bag, but what is it you think "fascism" is?

I'll even give you a hint...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

IRS, Kaiser, Obamacare...

 

[Valerie]

No, but we all know that you are a ridiculous jack ass.

Fakey Jakematters is the one and only person I have on ignore. He has nothing to offer to the forum.

So then JimCrowie and UnCensored believe in only Christian exemptions in the Constitution.

But that is not what the Constitution says, kids.

If a business wants to have shari'a law as part of its legal format, what is to stop it?

compelling interest...

Hobby Lobby was decided today, 5-4, along the usual conservative/liberal split. Alito, writing for the majority, qualifies up his opinion in various ways:

* The decision only pertains to closely held companies governed by the ridiculously named “Religious Freedom Restoration Act.” Arguably, if Congress wanted to make an exception under the RFRA to remove birth control as a “religious” issue, it could.

* The decision applies only to birth control.

* Alito believes there is a less-restrictive means for the government to provide birth control.

Hobby Lobby And The True Gangsta Life Of Justice Alito « Above the Law: A Legal Web Site ? News, Commentary, and Opinions on Law Firms, Lawyers, Law Schools, Law Suits, Judges and Courts + Career Resources


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Alito said the opinion was limited to closely held corporations: “Our decision should not be understood to hold that an insurance coverage mandate must necessarily fall if it conflicts with an employer’s religious beliefs. Other coverage requirements, such as immunizations, may be supported by different interests (for example, the need to combat the spread of infectious diseases) and may involve different arguments about the least restrictive means of providing them. “

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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote a dissent, joined on the merits by Justice Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor, and Stephen Breyer.

In her dissent Ginsburg –disagreed with Alito --and worried about what other challenges might come next. : ”Reading the Act expansively, as the court does, raises a host of “Me, too” questions.

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Paul D. Clement, a lawyer for the companies argued the law substantially burdens his clients and that the government—which has exempted others from the law—had no compelling justification to force Hobby Lobby and other closely held businesses to provide the coverage.


Hobby Lobby Wins Contraceptive Ruling in Supreme Court - ABC News

 

[Uncensored2008]

Fakey Jakematters is the one and only person I have on ignore. He has nothing to offer to the forum.

So then JimCrowie and UnCensored believe in only Christian exemptions in the Constitution.

But that is not what the Constitution says, kids.

If a business wants to have shari'a law as part of its legal format, what is to stop it?

crazy 8 thinks an EO doesn't have the force of law...

You know duhs, you're not the brightest quantum singularity in the galaxy, but when you post a cite, you might want to ensure it doesn't refute your moronic position...

EO's are directives to the executive branch.

Your god cannot issue an EO directing you to bow in worship to a statue of Obama each day.

Where you are no doubt confused, is in the process of tying your shoes, but that's irrelevant.... What confuses you here is that EO's can affect the enforcement of laws. Such as Obama issued an illegal EO directing ICE to not enforce immigration law. The EO is not law - in fact it is a violation of the law, but it does have effects similar to the law in that it opens our border.

 

[JimBowie1958]

He said nothing about "overturning" SCOTUS.

Seriously, why can't you post without lying?

The reversal of the SCOTUS ruling is known as a "reversal" among the sentient.

Obama believes himself dictator, unconstrained by any law.

Only SCOTUS can "reverse" SCOTUS.

You must not be among the sentient.


A legal executive order is not a "reversal".

No, moron, a Constitutional Amendment can also 'reverse' a SCOTUS decision.

Obama is trying to effectively nullify the courts with EOs and no matter how many times you fascist scum repeat your talking point lies, the people are on to you little Nazis

 

[Kondor3]

The reversal of the SCOTUS ruling is known as a "reversal" among the sentient.

Obama believes himself dictator, unconstrained by any law.

Only SCOTUS can "reverse" SCOTUS.

You must not be among the sentient.


A legal executive order is not a "reversal".

No, moron, a Constitutional Amendment can also 'reverse' a SCOTUS decision.

Obama is trying to effectively nullify the courts with EOs and no matter how many times you fascist scum repeat your talking point lies, the people are on to you little Nazis

Constitution-burning party, anyone?

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[daws101]

What are you complaining about? It is the natural right of every fascist dictator.

everybody's a fascist but JIM....

Duhs, you're not the sharpest marshmallow in the bag, but what is it you think "fascism" is?

I'll even give you a hint...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

IRS, Kaiser, Obamacare...

right, remember in an earlier where I said "just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

the above is rock solid evidence that I was correct...

 

[daws101]

So then JimCrowie and UnCensored believe in only Christian exemptions in the Constitution.

But that is not what the Constitution says, kids.

If a business wants to have shari'a law as part of its legal format, what is to stop it?

crazy 8 thinks an EO doesn't have the force of law...

You know duhs, you're not the brightest quantum singularity in the galaxy, but when you post a cite, you might want to ensure it doesn't refute your moronic position...

EO's are directives to the executive branch.

Your god cannot issue an EO directing you to bow in worship to a statue of Obama each day.

Where you are no doubt confused, is in the process of tying your shoes, but that's irrelevant.... What confuses you here is that EO's can affect the enforcement of laws. Such as Obama issued an illegal EO directing ICE to not enforce immigration law. The EO is not law - in fact it is a violation of the law, but it does have effects similar to the law in that it opens our border.

the effect is by any practical measure now the law..no matter how much you bitch...


"just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

 

[JimBowie1958]

Obama today stated that he will issue an order overturning the SCOTUS ruling on the mandate to provide abortion and contraceptives.

BREAKING: Obama to Look at How He Can Act on His Own to Mitigate Contraception Mandate Ruling - Katie Pavlich

What are you complaining about? It is the natural right of every fascist dictator.

everybody's a fascist but JIM....

A straw man so ridiculous that only a half-wit like daws could suggest it.

Lol, how easy to counter-accuse anyone by suggesting they think they are the only one innocent, it is trivial.

And yet fascism is quite real, and merely a metamorphosis of socialism, merely national in view instead of international.

But in this case Daws simply reflexively defends the Dimbocraps like a well trained dog.

 

[JimBowie1958]

everybody's a fascist but JIM....

Duhs, you're not the sharpest marshmallow in the bag, but what is it you think "fascism" is?

I'll even give you a hint...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

IRS, Kaiser, Obamacare...

right, remember in an earlier where I said "just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

the above is rock solid evidence that I was correct...

it is only evidence that you are a closed minded idiot.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What are you complaining about? It is the natural right of every fascist dictator.

everybody's a fascist but JIM....

Duhs, you're not the sharpest marshmallow in the bag, but what is it you think "fascism" is?

I'll even give you a hint...

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

IRS, Kaiser, Obamacare...

There are other characteristics to it as well. If you simply note that fascism was developed by Mussolini as a permutation of communism, you go far in understanding it. With the defeat of communist economic theory, the socialists are moving more toward a Fabian socialism that combines features of crony capitalism or corporatism.

Either definition fits the Obama Regime exactly and we can toss authoritarianism and personality worship in as well to round it off as quite strongly within the category of fascism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

right, remember in an earlier where I said "just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

the above is rock solid evidence that I was correct...

So; ignorance on your part is a lie on my part?

 

[daws101]

right, remember in an earlier where I said "just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

the above is rock solid evidence that I was correct...

So; ignorance on your part is a lie on my part?

that would be true if I were ignorant your answer is more proof of this:" just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

 

[Uncensored2008]

The effect is by any practical measure now the law..no matter how much you bitch...

No, it is not the law. It is directives to those who are sworn to uphold the law - instructing them to violate their oaths.

An Executive Order is nothing more than instructions to those reporting to the executive branch on HOW to execute the laws created by the legislature.

Obama is a crook, so his directives are often to either not enforce laws, or to target enemies for undue investigation and enforcement.

"just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

You are insanely partisan. We couple that with a less than average intellect, and posts like yours are inevitable.

 

[JimBowie1958]

right, remember in an earlier where I said "just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

the above is rock solid evidence that I was correct...

So; ignorance on your part is a lie on my part?

that would be true if I were ignorant your answer is more proof of this:" just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

Don't you have anything better to do with your time than to spend all day lying your ass off on a message board, freak?

 

[Uncensored2008]

that would be true if I were ignorant your answer is more proof of this:" just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

Your ignorance is only exceeded by your partisanship.

 

[daws101]

The effect is by any practical measure now the law..no matter how much you bitch...

No, it is not the law. It is directives to those who are sworn to uphold the law - instructing them to violate their oaths.

An Executive Order is nothing more than instructions to those reporting to the executive branch on HOW to execute the laws created by the legislature.

Obama is a crook, so his directives are often to either not enforce laws, or to target enemies for undue investigation and enforcement.

"just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

You are insanely partisan. We couple that with a less than average intellect, and posts like yours are inevitable.

no matter how much you bitch...

and as always you lie I'm neither partisan or of less than average intelligence... and that's what really galls you..

 

[daws101]

So; ignorance on your part is a lie on my part?

that would be true if I were ignorant your answer is more proof of this:" just about everything you say is a fabrication or so spun it might as well be a lie.."

Don't you have anything better to do with your time than to spend all day lying your ass off on a message board, freak?

ok, jim blowme what am I lying about....?

 

[Misty]

I tried to make this point in a thread of my own but obviously didn't phrase it correctly. So I'll let this guy do it.

"Virtually all of the criticism of the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision has assumed that women who work for Hobby*Lobby and other religious businesses will lose their free contraceptives. That’s false. *As Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. explained in his opinion for the court, the effect of its ruling on these women’s access to contraception is “precisely zero.”

The reason is this: the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals.*The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom."

Relax, Hobby Lobby won?t take away anyone?s birth control - The Washington Post

 

[daws101]

I tried to make this point in a thread of my own but obviously didn't phrase it correctly. So I'll let this guy do it.

"Virtually all of the criticism of the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision has assumed that women who work for Hobby*Lobby and other religious businesses will lose their free contraceptives. That’s false. *As Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. explained in his opinion for the court, the effect of its ruling on these women’s access to contraception is “precisely zero.”

The reason is this: the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals.*The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom."

Relax, Hobby Lobby won?t take away anyone?s birth control - The Washington Post

that's not what 's happening if it were no one would have any room to complain.