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If he doesn't seek congressional approval he's an unconstitutional dictator; if he does seek congressional approval, he's only looking out for himself.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Nothing to see here, folks. Just more hypocritical bullshit from the USMB Wingnut Brigade.
you are correct about one thing, obozo has backed himself into a box with no excape route. thats what idiots do, and obama is a idiot.
He absolutely did not.
What he did was follow the Constitution.
My bet is that congress is going to screw this one up.
Big time.
Obama is just looking for a way out. He's a poor excuse for a president, he always has been..He'll shift the responsibility to congress so he can blame them when he doesn't do anyting..I personally don't think we should get involved at this point, but Obama looks like the weak, pathetic, little man that he is..Now go play some golf Obama do us all a favor and stay there
If that were the case he could have done one of two things.
Authorized surgical strikes without congressional approval. And be done.
Went with one of the many ridiculous stories out there about "rebels using the weapons" or "rogue general", absolve Assad and be done.
In either case, not much would have happened.
If he doesn't seek congressional approval he's an unconstitutional dictator; if he does seek congressional approval, he's only looking out for himself.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Nothing to see here, folks. Just more hypocritical bullshit from the USMB Wingnut Brigade.
you are correct about one thing, obozo has backed himself into a box with no excape route. thats what idiots do, and obama is a idiot.
That's not what I said. Nice try though.
What Obama did was put the decision into the hands of Congress. You know, the same Congress that you guys always claim he ignores or oversteps.
There's no need at all to do anything but let them vote.
Trajan's post above illustrates why.
You don't think anti war people ( and there are a lot of em) are going to be watching very closely ?
Of course they are..
Bottom line is the US ALREADY screwed the pooch on this issue during the Iraq/Iran war.
This is a chance for Redemption.
I don't think he's seeking approval. I think he's looking for a way out of the mess he made. Realized he was alone in his opinion and is looking for an excuse to no follow through with his threat.
Obama's never advocated for sending ground troops nor would any be needed.
I am not advocating ground troops...just a robust air attack along the line General Keene advocates. Kill his Air Force/runways. Deplete armor and artillery...even future odds so diplomatic solution becomes more inevitable...if that is possible in the ME.
That's probably exactly what would happen.
Think Balkans.
Obama's never advocated for sending ground troops nor would any be needed.
I am not advocating ground troops...just a robust air attack along the line General Keene advocates. Kill his Air Force/runways. Deplete armor and artillery...even future odds so diplomatic solution becomes more inevitable...if that is possible in the ME.
For what purpose? Are we trying to force a regime change? Some of the insurgents in Syria are Al Qaeda - do you really want to side with them?
We need to have a better understanding of the various factions and possible outcomes before intervening. If this is just a humanitarian issue, then why aren't we trying to save people in Darfur (and much of Africa), North Korea, and Coptic Christians?
Congress didn't make Obama draw The Red Line that backed him into the corner.
Its not that simple as "yes".....it has to be yes to aggressive complete attack....not much chance of that.
Obama's never advocated for sending ground troops nor would any be needed.
Right, we will bomb Syria from the air, until the rebels win. We'll level their cities if necessary. Otherwise, how is the CW threat eliminated? The limited strike promise makes no sense, and is obviously a ruse.
Appearances are everything to phonies as John F'ing Kerry [Who served in Viet Nam].Congress didn't make Obama draw The Red Line that backed him into the corner.
^ This is basically what the whole thing boils down to. Obama opened his mouth with nary a thought as to what he'd do if things progressed and the red line was crossed.
Hey Barry ... keep mouth shut, fly not get in.
Kerry is on tv on Fox atm. wtF is wrong with Kerry's face??? Botox city!
I am not advocating ground troops...just a robust air attack along the line General Keene advocates. Kill his Air Force/runways. Deplete armor and artillery...even future odds so diplomatic solution becomes more inevitable...if that is possible in the ME.
That's probably exactly what would happen.
Think Balkans.
The Righties don't want to think of the Balkans. It makes them remember Clinton, and not one American casualty. They don't want to remember that.
Obama's never advocated for sending ground troops nor would any be needed.
Right, we will bomb Syria from the air, until the rebels win. We'll level their cities if necessary. Otherwise, how is the CW threat eliminated? The limited strike promise makes no sense, and is obviously a ruse.
There are three ways to eliminate the threat. I will list them in descending order of desirability.
The latter can only be accomplished by using nuclear weapons.
- Keep Assad in power so that he can control them.
- But boots on the ground to forcibly take the storage facilities and army units that have them.
- Get those same areas so hot that there is no danger of the weapons being released accidentally.
I am not advocating ground troops...just a robust air attack along the line General Keene advocates. Kill his Air Force/runways. Deplete armor and artillery...even future odds so diplomatic solution becomes more inevitable...if that is possible in the ME.
For what purpose? Are we trying to force a regime change? Some of the insurgents in Syria are Al Qaeda - do you really want to side with them?
We need to have a better understanding of the various factions and possible outcomes before intervening. If this is just a humanitarian issue, then why aren't we trying to save people in Darfur (and much of Africa), North Korea, and Coptic Christians?
The purpose of the administration ...if there really is one...is to bring about a diplomatic solution once the two sides reach a military stalemate.
He made a decision to set the stage for saying "I wanted to do something but republicans wouldn't let me."
He made a decision to set the stage for saying "I wanted to do something but republicans wouldn't let me."
Exactly!
During this time of not acting, there is the possibility of Syria giving these weapons to Hezbollah or be taken by other Islamic Terrorists Groups.
If Obama strikes Syria, what will that accomplish? He made it sound as if there were no specific targets, we would go in for a limited timeframe, limited strikes. So .... then what?
He has made a great decision.
after Iraq, after Afghanistan, we need the representatives of The People to ok military action.
no doubt, Zionist extremists and fans of Al Qaeda will be furious at this decision.
If Obama strikes Syria, what will that accomplish? He made it sound as if there were no specific targets, we would go in for a limited timeframe, limited strikes. So .... then what?
Countries can not be allowed to gas their people. Was it ok that Hitler did it? No. There is some sense in showing force on this. But doesn't some serious damage need to be done in order for Syria to halt what they're doing?
