Obama "Very Interested" In Raising Taxes Through Executive Action

The ACTUAL corporate rate is 12%, and paid mainly by small businesses who can't afford tax lawyers and lobbyists. Reaganism has run amok. See sig. Pandering to the greedy idiot megarich and giant corps has wrecked the nonrich and then the country.
 
Where is administrative action found in the Constitution?
The same place where Reagan and Dubya found it.
Get off your knees. Obama would just as soon piss on you, why do you defend his abuse of power?
Last time, wingnut: why is it illegal when Obama uses EOs but not when Reagan and Bush did? (and they did MANY more EOs than Obama)
Dumb question... Obama uses EO's to circumvent Congress because they won't do what he wants....."Pass a bill and I won't act on my own"....
Previous presidents used EO's for genuine reasons. That includes ALL of them...Dem and GOP....
Even democrat pundits see Obama's use( more abuse) of EO's as unprecedented.
 
People literally do not care if Obama has the authority to do something or not, they just want him to do it.
Except for the fact that he does have that authority.
The intent of the EO is NOT to bypass congress and thus circumvent the entire process. This circumvention is in direct violation of the concept of separation of powers as prescribed in the US Constitution.
 
If our corp tax rate were not so confiscatory, the incentives would be unnecessary.

The fact remain the US has the16th lowest effective (actual) tax rate. (Industrialized nations)
The rate is 35%.....And if our rate were lower( how about the lowest) there would be no need to send production off shore. No reason for inversions. No need for companies to invest overseas instead of domestically.
16th lowest. Who cares. The fact is the rate effective or not is chasing business and jobs out of the country.
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...
you are summarily dismissed...
 
The ACTUAL corporate rate is 12%, and paid mainly by small businesses who can't afford tax lawyers and lobbyists. Reaganism has run amok. See sig. Pandering to the greedy idiot megarich and giant corps has wrecked the nonrich and then the country.
You are not involved.. Quiet.
 
We blew 150 tomahawk missles at $500,000 a piece for example, but they are made in the USA by Union workers and provided jobs for there local Economies during a recession

How many time do you have to be told that the government does not create jobs? Don't you ever read what the rabbit says? You should sometime. It's a hoot.

But seeing as how you recognize that the government can and does create jobs, just think of all the jobs that could be created with a full scale war against say a Russia. Full employment in no time. Prosperity for all except those that get killed or maimed in the war. But they are all volunteers.

Where in that post did Bear either say or imply that the those who built the Tomahawk missiles were gov't workers? You are being far less than honest but typical of a loony lefty.
 
If our corp tax rate were not so confiscatory, the incentives would be unnecessary.

The fact remain the US has the16th lowest effective (actual) tax rate. (Industrialized nations)
The rate is 35%.....And if our rate were lower( how about the lowest) there would be no need to send production off shore. No reason for inversions. No need for companies to invest overseas instead of domestically.
16th lowest. Who cares. The fact is the rate effective or not is chasing business and jobs out of the country.
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...

ALL costs make a difference the more ANYTHING costs to produce makes it cost more to the end user.
Are you really that stupid?
No, but dupes like you and shortsighted, brainwashed marketing majors and CEOs are. Don't realize how important well paid employees and customers are, and give us the present Reaganist mess.
 
If our corp tax rate were not so confiscatory, the incentives would be unnecessary.

The fact remain the US has the16th lowest effective (actual) tax rate. (Industrialized nations)
The rate is 35%.....And if our rate were lower( how about the lowest) there would be no need to send production off shore. No reason for inversions. No need for companies to invest overseas instead of domestically.
16th lowest. Who cares. The fact is the rate effective or not is chasing business and jobs out of the country.
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...

ALL costs make a difference the more ANYTHING costs to produce makes it cost more to the end user.
Are you really that stupid?
No, but dupes like you and shortsighted, brainwashed marketing majors and CEOs are. Don't realize how important well paid employees and customers are, and give us the present Reaganist mess.

The more anything costs to make makes it's cost more in the end.
It's just that simple.

....and yet people like you would be the first to complain because your Twinkies cost too much.
 
People literally do not care if Obama has the authority to do something or not, they just want him to do it.
Except for the fact that he does have that authority.

Which means that the next Republican president can just as easily cut taxes using the same method. Cheering Obama on in this will result in some badly bitten butts.
No...can't do that either.
Considering there've been no real challenges to Obama's EOs but propaganda for the dupes, we'll see if any EOs against loopholes for the bloated rich and giant corps are possible. This happens affter SIX YEARS of mindless, bought off Pub obstruction, hater dupes.
 
Barry's primary goal of crippling the American economy and system of government
Are you better off now than you were 6 years ago? Yes.
No. Household income is lower, household wealth is lower. Opportunities are fewer. Unless you're in the top 5% of earners you are much worse off. That's the whole point here, skippy.

Exactly. So, if you are poor, this is the greatest country in the world to be poor with entitlements and no taxes to pay. If you are an earner or make a lot of money in a year but are not Wealthy, you pay lot in taxes. If you are part of the top 5%, you have gotten wealthier over the past 6 years. So, look who is losing in this economy over the past 6 years? The Middle Class.
 
... This nation will never balance a budget by spending like drunken sailors in port and then robbing the next generation to pay for such profligate waste.
Yes we have a spending problem but I think the bigger problem is how the system is designed to never let the government get out of debt...

Reread GW's post (above). The problem isn't the system or tax revenues but rather the drunken sailor spending. If you ran your household (or business) like our gov't runs this country you would quickly find yourself broke or out of biz.
Yeah but I think you miss the underlying reasons.. If it were not for government spending there would be sooo many Americans without a job or work. Especially in the construction industry. Now agreeably there are many investments they make that I wish we did not have to make like, weapons of mass destruction and areas like that but that is to protect all the billionaires who like to hog all the money and profits and then all the foreign country's see Americans as pigs and selfish. Im sure all the Chinese that work for practically nothing to create the goods we use most just love to see where all the wealth goes.

Yanno, you are either a 14 year old or a former special education kid. Either way you should spend some time just reading these posts as your silence would mask your monumental ignorance ... and I mean that with all due respect. I found the following to be particularly simpleminded:
"Now agreeably there are many investments they make that I wish we did not have to make like, weapons of mass destruction and areas like that but that is to protect all the billionaires who like to hog all the money and profits..."
Remarkable.
 
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The fact remain the US has the16th lowest effective (actual) tax rate. (Industrialized nations)
The rate is 35%.....And if our rate were lower( how about the lowest) there would be no need to send production off shore. No reason for inversions. No need for companies to invest overseas instead of domestically.
16th lowest. Who cares. The fact is the rate effective or not is chasing business and jobs out of the country.
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...

ALL costs make a difference the more ANYTHING costs to produce makes it cost more to the end user.
Are you really that stupid?
No, but dupes like you and shortsighted, brainwashed marketing majors and CEOs are. Don't realize how important well paid employees and customers are, and give us the present Reaganist mess.

The more anything costs to make makes it's cost more in the end.
It's just that simple.

....and yet people like you would be the first to complain because your Twinkies cost too much.
Wrong again. That would be greedy a-hole shortsighted RW bigot ugly American red neck ignoramus RWers...duh.
 
Did either of those use executive orders to circimvent Congress and rewrite laws?
Yes.
Links?
You're asking for examples? Is that because you're a dumbass who doesn't know recent history, and has no business debating on this site?

OK - Bush used an EO to forbid Federal funding of stem cell research. That's clearly an issue (funding) that should originate in the House.

Why was that not illegal?
because the federal government looked at the manner in which most stem cells were gathered( by aborting fetuses produced for the sole purpose of harvesting stem cells) orginated and decided that the government was not going to have the legal authority to sanction abortion for research. Hence leaving it to the private sector to fund its own research...
Now, if there is another safer and non lethal manner to harvest brain stem cells, the government may do well to assist in funding that.
I didn't ask for their rationale, dope.

I asked if it was legal. And if you say it was, then why is that legal and Obama's EOs not legal?

We haven't even gotten to Reagan.
You are making up your own reality. I never said Obama is in violation of the law. I stated that Obama in use of EO's to bypass Congress and thus circumvent the process. This based only on the fact that Congress did not cooperate with Obama's agenda.
EO's are not to be used to bypass Congress.
The fact that we have Separation of Powers in the htree branches of government and a system of checks and balances proves that out.
You cannot provide a single example of a previous president usurping, bypassing or otherwise stepping on the lawful authority of Congress by use of an executive order.
Oh so we're in the insult phase...Very good.
You lose,
 
The rate is 35%.....And if our rate were lower( how about the lowest) there would be no need to send production off shore. No reason for inversions. No need for companies to invest overseas instead of domestically.
16th lowest. Who cares. The fact is the rate effective or not is chasing business and jobs out of the country.
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...

ALL costs make a difference the more ANYTHING costs to produce makes it cost more to the end user.
Are you really that stupid?
No, but dupes like you and shortsighted, brainwashed marketing majors and CEOs are. Don't realize how important well paid employees and customers are, and give us the present Reaganist mess.

The more anything costs to make makes it's cost more in the end.
It's just that simple.

....and yet people like you would be the first to complain because your Twinkies cost too much.
Wrong again. That would be greedy a-hole shortsighted RW bigot ugly American red neck ignoramus RWers...duh.

You really are that stupid.

How about that.......don't go into business franco just keep sucking off the Gov tit.
 
You're asking for examples? Is that because you're a dumbass who doesn't know recent history, and has no business debating on this site?

OK - Bush used an EO to forbid Federal funding of stem cell research. That's clearly an issue (funding) that should originate in the House.

Why was that not illegal?
because the federal government looked at the manner in which most stem cells were gathered( by aborting fetuses produced for the sole purpose of harvesting stem cells) orginated and decided that the government was not going to have the legal authority to sanction abortion for research. Hence leaving it to the private sector to fund its own research...
Now, if there is another safer and non lethal manner to harvest brain stem cells, the government may do well to assist in funding that.
I didn't ask for their rationale, dope.

I asked if it was legal. And if you say it was, then why is that legal and Obama's EOs not legal?

We haven't even gotten to Reagan.
You are making up your own reality. I never said Obama is in violation of the law. I stated that Obama in use of EO's to bypass Congress and thus circumvent the process. This based only on the fact that Congress did not cooperate with Obama's agenda.
EO's are not to be used to bypass Congress.
The fact that we have Separation of Powers in the htree branches of government and a system of checks and balances proves that out.
You cannot provide a single example of a previous president usurping, bypassing or otherwise stepping on the lawful authority of Congress by use of an executive order.
Oh so we're in the insult phase...Very good.
You lose,

Insults are his first stop.
 
Barry's primary goal of crippling the American economy and system of government
Are you better off now than you were 6 years ago? Yes.
No. Household income is lower, household wealth is lower. Opportunities are fewer. Unless you're in the top 5% of earners you are much worse off. That's the whole point here, skippy.

Exactly. So, if you are poor, this is the greatest country in the world to be poor with entitlements and no taxes to pay. If you are an earner or make a lot of money in a year but are not Wealthy, you pay lot in taxes. If you are part of the top 5%, you have gotten wealthier over the past 6 years. So, look who is losing in this economy over the past 6 years? The Middle Class.
Yes, the richest and giant corps make out, but you're nuts if you think the poorest do, and Pub cuts in education and training programs make it always harder to escape poverty. See sig. And hater dupes don't realize all the drug screening and hoops they have to go through. Most of what they scream for are already there...At least O-Care has helped poor workers, and people aren't forced onto Welfare to get care anymore. Except in mindless red states of course.
 
BS. More like shortsighted GOP marketing majors who believe that bs and that labor costs make a big difference- now coming home again. The really criminal thing is GOP tax incentives for them to outsource. Hater dupes of greedy idiot GOP billionaires...so thick...

ALL costs make a difference the more ANYTHING costs to produce makes it cost more to the end user.
Are you really that stupid?
No, but dupes like you and shortsighted, brainwashed marketing majors and CEOs are. Don't realize how important well paid employees and customers are, and give us the present Reaganist mess.

The more anything costs to make makes it's cost more in the end.
It's just that simple.

....and yet people like you would be the first to complain because your Twinkies cost too much.
Wrong again. That would be greedy a-hole shortsighted RW bigot ugly American red neck ignoramus RWers...duh.

You really are that stupid.

How about that.......don't go into business franco just keep sucking off the Gov tit.
Wrong again, hater dupe lol...keep hating Pub victims though, hater dupe.
 
If it was challenged (which I'm sure it was) then they obviously lost, proving that a President has the legal authority to issue Executive Orders.

According to the Constitution, Congress is to levy taxes.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:
The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.
 

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