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The union ran GM into the ground.
Wrong. The compensation of a CEO's employee is based on the skill they are providing and how hard they work. They're getting their fair compensation. ?
I'm just cutting your Stockholm Sydrome Rant off here before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
CEO of GM. Got paid 12 million dollars. Ran the company into the ground, required a government bailout. The skills and hard work this guy had RUINED the company. Can't blame the unions, they made a shitload of concessions to keep the company afloat.
So the governmetn comes in, Saves GM, it's profitable again. But they guys running it want to get the government out so they can start paying those 8 figure salaries again.
That's one company dumb ass. In a country of thousands with thousands of owners that haven't made mistakes. The only one making a fool of themselves here is by pointing to single or even handful of instances and pretending that constitutes how business owners typically are.
Well that was an intelligent counter argument. Never said I did not anything about you. What I do know for fact is that the choices in life people make have consequences. I know for a fact you libs don't really like self accountability because you avoid talking about it like the plague. You avoid admitting what we all know has to be true, that a lot of people are poor because of poor decisions. The FACT is you morons think the best thing to do for these people is for them to ignore the choices that got them where they are and just give them more money and you think that's a good solution to a problem. Those are the fucking facts.
"don't really like self accountability"
Bullshit.
According the record of this thread at least and those of you arguing for a living wage. It apparently isn't. No argument any of you living wage advocates have made indicates you believe in that concept. If you did you wouldn't be arguing that someone else be responsible for providing enough for you to live on when you're perfectly capable of doing so on your own.
I'm just cutting your Stockholm Sydrome Rant off here before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
CEO of GM. Got paid 12 million dollars. Ran the company into the ground, required a government bailout. The skills and hard work this guy had RUINED the company. Can't blame the unions, they made a shitload of concessions to keep the company afloat.
So the governmetn comes in, Saves GM, it's profitable again. But they guys running it want to get the government out so they can start paying those 8 figure salaries again.
That's one company dumb ass. In a country of thousands with thousands of owners that haven't made mistakes. The only one making a fool of themselves here is by pointing to single or even handful of instances and pretending that constitutes how business owners typically are.
I think GM was a worst case scenario. But the thing is, the 8 figure salary is not a sign of merit, it's a sign of the inmates taking over the asylum.
And actually, most business owners are like these assholes.
Words never spoken in a working class bar. "Man, my boss is a fucking genius".
This has never been said.
Actually no it wasn't. Social Security is only taxable up to a certain amount of income per year. I believe about 114,000 per year. That's about an upper middle class income. As such, a tax cut to the rich would not have effected how much they pay into social security.
I guess you are some kind of special retard, aren't you?
Let's take the wayback machine back to 2000. We were posting 400 billion dollar surpluses, and people were saying, "Put that money in a lockbox for Social Security". and the idiots. You know, the stupid, evil people who run the GOP said, "No, no, the rich people are paying too much in taxes at 39%. We have to cut their taxes to 35%,the poor dears. And we turned 400 billion in surplus into a trillion in debt in 8 years.
Good job.
But the rich got their tax cuts. That's the important thing.
EVERYONE got a tax cut ya blowhard.
Why are you such a partisan hack?
No they need better life coaches. They need to be rid of people like you that can't possibly fathom that where a person is in life is a result of their own choices.
Hey, where did the fuking know it all come from? Better life coaches eh? What, and you are the dude to be the coach I bet. How many poor people are you helping out coach?
Just what the fuk have you done in your life that would seem to make you think your shit don't stink? Just curious on that one.
But fuk you and your horse if you think you know anything about me.
Or poor people for that matter.
And keep in mind, rethugs NEED poor people. They're the ones you all like to ridicule and denigrate. Just part of your Christian calling I guess.
Well that was an intelligent counter argument. Never said I did not anything about you. What I do know for fact is that the choices in life people make have consequences. I know for a fact you libs don't really like self accountability because you avoid talking about it like the plague. You avoid admitting what we all know has to be true, that a lot of people are poor because of poor decisions. The FACT is you morons think the best thing to do for these people is for them to ignore the choices that got them where they are and just give them more money and you think that's a good solution to a problem. Those are the fucking facts.
People were worth more before and I didn't think it was a fortune when I was paid it as a child.
You proved my point.
Thank you.
Children do not need to make a living wage and do not need a raise in the minimum wage.
Same with adults that ONLY have the skills and education OF A CHILD.
I gave you the stats on minimum wage and it isn't children receiving it. More than two thirds of minimum wage earners have a high school diploma or more. Setting a minimum wage is not setting any wage. There is no law requiring a business to pay people the minimum wage. You claim to have knowledge about these people not being worth $7 a hour and you don't even know who these people are. 55.6% of minimum wage workers are in the South (Table #2). The stereotype of the true minimum wage worker is a young unmarried woman and not a child. Why would a business keep someone on the payroll who wasn't worth what they paid them, when it's so easy to find a replacement?
Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2009
Tables 1 - 10; Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2009
The next time you try to make shit up, be more creative in your fabrication.
Point is, she spent the last 40 years or so paying into social security exactly for this sort of contingency... but that money she paid in was used to give tax cuts to rich douchebags to buy dressage horsies and yatchs...
Actually no it wasn't. Social Security is only taxable up to a certain amount of income per year. I believe about 114,000 per year. That's about an upper middle class income. As such, a tax cut to the rich would not have effected how much they pay into social security.
I guess you are some kind of special retard, aren't you?
Let's take the wayback machine back to 2000. We were posting 400 billion dollar surpluses, and people were saying, "Put that money in a lockbox for Social Security". and the idiots. You know, the stupid, evil people who run the GOP said, "No, no, the rich people are paying too much in taxes at 39%. We have to cut their taxes to 35%,the poor dears. And we turned 400 billion in surplus into a trillion in debt in 8 years.
Good job.
But the rich got their tax cuts. That's the important thing.
The way I see it is if they dont want to pay a decent wage they should pack up and leave. We dont need those jobs. Pack your bags to China, or Mexico, I dont care. The minimum wage should be $20/hour. That is about what one person needs to make in this world to live outside of a freaking ghetto. It turns out slavery didnt end in 1865, because they still got people working for slave wages in america. $7/hour, really? May as well start sending black people out in the fields again.
I imagine these morning morning business jockey QBs have forgotten another large expense this 20% rise in payroll for small business has to endure.
A 20% increase in the matching social security payments they have to make on the employees.
Liberals just go with their first thought "they need more $$$ to live on"
And never sit and THINK of what bad things can happen to business.
Just like spoiled undisciplined children.
The way I see it is if they dont want to pay a decent wage they should pack up and leave. We dont need those jobs. Pack your bags to China, or Mexico, I dont care. The minimum wage should be $20/hour. That is about what one person needs to make in this world to live outside of a freaking ghetto. It turns out slavery didnt end in 1865, because they still got people working for slave wages in america. $7/hour, really? May as well start sending black people out in the fields again.
I guess you are some kind of special retard, aren't you?
Let's take the wayback machine back to 2000. We were posting 400 billion dollar surpluses, and people were saying, "Put that money in a lockbox for Social Security". and the idiots. You know, the stupid, evil people who run the GOP said, "No, no, the rich people are paying too much in taxes at 39%. We have to cut their taxes to 35%,the poor dears. And we turned 400 billion in surplus into a trillion in debt in 8 years.
Good job.
But the rich got their tax cuts. That's the important thing.
EVERYONE got a tax cut ya blowhard.
Why are you such a partisan hack?
1) The Majority of the Tax Cuts went to the rich.
2) They weren't really tax cuts in that we just had to borrow that money from someone to pay for wars and governmetn services, which we are NOW paying interest on on top of the original costs.
The union ran GM into the ground.
Well, no, it really didn't.
What ran GM into the ground was their instance on continuing to build the unprofitable SUV's and gas guzzlers when the market was looking for more fuel efficient cars. Hense, why they lost their asses to the Japanese, the Germans and the Koreans.
All of whom make cars in Unionized plants with better wages than we give our guys.
I imagine these morning morning business jockey QBs have forgotten another large expense this 20% rise in payroll for small business has to endure.
A 20% increase in the matching social security payments they have to make on the employees.
Liberals just go with their first thought "they need more $$$ to live on"
And never sit and THINK of what bad things can happen to business.
Just like spoiled undisciplined children.
Well, dingbat, if it had been up to the GOP there would have been NO payroll tax holiday. Ay caramba, how dumb can you get, dupes?
but thanks for the idiot arrogant Pub dupe psychobabble "common sense" LOL.
The union ran GM into the ground.
Well, no, it really didn't.
What ran GM into the ground was their instance on continuing to build the unprofitable SUV's and gas guzzlers when the market was looking for more fuel efficient cars. Hense, why they lost their asses to the Japanese, the Germans and the Koreans.
All of whom make cars in Unionized plants with better wages than we give our guys.
What?
If the market is looking for fuel efficient cars why has GM had to cut production of the Volt? By the way, GM makes more money off of an SUV than they do any of their small cars. Without SUVs and trucks they would have gone belly up years ago.
