Obama = Worse President Ever

I also am curious why the democrats in congress, and Hillary, kept voting for and funding those pointless wars? I guess they are self serving cowards, too.

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The Democrats voted for the wars because they didn't believe a President of the United States of America would LIE to them. The also didn't believe the Secretary of Defense would LIE to them.

THEY WERE WRONG.

THEY WERE LIED TO and that is why they voted for the war.

They made the mistake of trusting a Republican.
 
[Q


Bush abandoned the war on terror so that he could attack Iraq

Obama agreed because he fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and now has more troops over there as terrorist are attacking our embassies and killing our ambassadors.
 
What's the obsession with Bush?

Perhaps he sent too many people to their deaths in an immoral war, he caused the world to be more unstable, the economy to collapse. I mean, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH? (he did more than that, but hey).


Same old leftist talking points:
Sadaam was terrible murderous dictator. While I agree it was not business of USA how can you say immoral?
Unstable? ME is never stable.
GWB caused world economy to collapse? So he alone forced USA banks to make sub-prime home loans to anyone & everyone (more poor could buy a house)? Allowed them to hide and bundle these loans in Wall street packages and sell those packages across the globe?
Even the end of the Clinton years is twisted. It has been proven (on this site) that the debt increased every year during Clinton, the surplus was not true. The debt/deficit was much less than now-days but some credit to R congress. Clinton gets credit for not screwing things up badl, agreed. They played accounting tricks to make things appear surplus.
 
I also am curious why the democrats in congress, and Hillary, kept voting for and funding those pointless wars? I guess they are self serving cowards, too.

========
The Democrats voted for the wars because they didn't believe a President of the United States of America would LIE to them. The also didn't believe the Secretary of Defense would LIE to them.

THEY WERE WRONG.

THEY WERE LIED TO and that is why they voted for the war.

They made the mistake of trusting a Republican.

Oh, give me a break!!!

WE knew there was no real weapons of mass destruction not long into the affair. Just by scouring the internet. We knew there were ulterior motives for going into Iraq, although it was possible some of those ulterior motives may have been noble and for our benefit --- or, maybe not so much.

There is no way a member of congress does not have better sources of real information of what is taking place than the public. The democrats voted for continuation of those wars for the very same reason they voted to invade in the first place. Because it was the more popular choice with their constituents, because it would keep them looking like a good guy and win another election, because it was self serving for their careers, and because they were total COWARDS and did not want to rock the boat. Hillary included.
 
Ask about the awful things Obama was supposed to have done and Republicans come up with the most bizarre stuff. Even worse than the scandals they invented for Hillary.

Yes, you got us there. Some of us believe these reports about the Clintons and the alleged scandals. We just fall for them hook, line and sinker. Maybe we should just listen to you guys and the mainstream media instead.


Hillary Clinton's fifteen biggest scandals

Hillary Clinton's fifteen biggest scandals

By Sarah Westwood (@sarahcwestwood) • 6/13/15 12:01 AM

Hillary Clinton is set to launch her presidential campaign for the second time Saturday in New York amid a barrage of criticism that has marred her first weeks on the trail.

The Clintons have been no stranger to scandals, some dating back to when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas. But there are many scandals that originated in Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

The following 15 scandals are just a few to keep in mind as she launches her presidential campaign.

Boeing bucks

Boeing gave generously to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary Clinton personally intervened on its behalf to secure a lucrative contract with the Russian government.

The secretary of state made what she called a "shameless pitch" to the state-owned Russian carrier Rosavia in October 2009.

Russia struck a multi-billion dollar deal with Boeing in June 2010, after which the aerospace conglomerate cut a $900,000 check to the Clinton Foundation.

Speaker fees

Bill Clinton doubled the amount of money he earned from speaking engagements funded by foreign entities while his wife served as secretary of state.

The spike in foreign groups that became interested in hosting the former president raised questions as to whether their invitations were made in an effort to curry favor with the secretary of state.

For example, Bill Clinton earned $2.2 million from just six international speeches in 2014, but reportedly made $4.8 million from 13 speeches in foreign countries in 2010

Uranium One

Hillary Clinton's role in approving a contentious uranium contract emerged in Peter Schweizer's May book Clinton Cash.

In the deal, a state-owned Russian energy agency took over a Canadian company, Uranium One, that controlled such a large stake in America's uranium deposits that the transaction required approval from Hillary Clinton and other cabinet-level officials.

Frank Giustra, a top Clinton Foundation donor and close friend of the former president, served as a financial adviser to Uranium One as the deal unfolded.

The charity failed to disclose other significant donations from individuals and entities involved in the transaction, including the $2.35 million Uranium One chair Ian Telfer funneled to the charity through another foundation under his control.

Airbrushing IG reports

The State Department's acting inspector general, Harold Geisel, appears to have removed damaging passages from a report before publishing it in February 2013.

References to specific cases in which high-level State officials halted internal investigations and descriptions of the extent and frequency of those interventions appear in several early drafts but were later eliminated, the Washington Examiner reported Tuesday.

The unexplained gaps between the reports call into question Geisel's independence as an interim inspector general.

Among the passages removed was an allegation that diplomatic security staff had covered up the solicitation of prostitutes by Hillary Clinton's security team on official travel and that higher-ups had shielded an official with an alleged history of sexual assault from being investigated for attacking embassy staff.

Blumenthal's back

Hillary Clinton's reliance on an informal adviser whom she called an "old friend" sparked controversy when her published emails revealed him to be her main source of intelligence in the run-up to Benghazi.

Sidney Blumenthal's brutal campaign against then-Sen. Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary made him an enemy of the administration even after Hillary Clinton was selected to join Obama's cabinet. Her attempts to hire Blumenthal were reportedly nixed by Obama's staff.

Blumenthal's ties to a group of businessmen who were attempting to drum up contracts in the Libya — with the help of the State Department — raise questions about the motives behind the intelligence memos he sent Hillary Clinton.

Boko Haram

The State Department has ignored a lawsuit over its failure to comply with a FOIA request for records pertaining to a Nigerian businessman.

Gilbert Chagoury, who gave between $1 million and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, was indicted in the Halliburton bribery scandal in 2010 alongside his brother. Chagoury is reportedly a close friend of Bill Clinton who spent time traveling with the former president through Europe.

Citizens United, a conservative nonprofit, sued the State Department after the agency stonewalled its request for records that would determine whether Hillary Clinton's refusal to place Boko Haram on the terrorist watch list had anything to do with Chagoury's support

Ambassadors investigated

Patrick Kennedy, the State Department's undersecretary for management, allegedly stopped investigators from looking into whether an ambassador accused of soliciting "sexual favors" from "minor children" had committed a crime on Hillary Clinton's watch, the Washington Examiner reported Thursday.

An inspector general report published late last year concluded the Belgian ambassador had been summoned to Washington for a meeting with Kennedy, where the undersecretary permitted him to return to his post after the ambassador simply denied the charges in an interview.

Kennedy told the inspector general he didn't open a criminal investigation because "solicitation of a prostitute ... was not a crime in the host country."

However, in testimony at the trial of Chelsea Manning more than a year earlier, Kennedy had told defense attorneys that their suggestion of his role in a cover-up of the Belgian ambassador scandal was "entirely false."

Security struggles

An internal inspector general memo revealed allegations that at least five members of Hillary Clinton's security detail solicited prostitutes in a number of countries while on official travel, including on trips to Russia and Colombia.

A diplomatic security guard was allowed to continue his oversight of Clinton's hotel security operations after allegedly soliciting prostitutes in Moscow "despite obvious counterintelligence questions," the memo said.

According to the document, a top official in the bureau of diplomatic security "reportedly told [an investigator] to shut down the four investigations" into the accused security guards, three of whom received suspensions that lasted just one day.

Hidden Iran waivers

The State Department has denied the existence of waivers granted to certain companies that would allow them to conduct business in Iran despite international sanctions against doing so.

But the waivers have surfaced in a number of reports, including Schweizer's book and an article earlier this month by the Washington Times.

Agency officials claimed they had searched 11 different offices within the State Department and had failed to turn up any documents related to the Iran waivers.

Sweden was among the countries working to convince Hillary Clinton not to impose harsh sanctions against Iran ahead of high-stakes nuclear negotiations.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton established a separate arm of the Clinton Foundation in Sweden just as his wife was shoring up support for sanctions against Iran, the Times reported.

When the U.S. government released the sanctions list in 2011 and 2012, it included no Swedish companies.

Norway's new embassy

The government of Norway donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation and was seemingly rewarded when the State Department shelled out $177.9 million for a new embassy in Oslo in 2011.

The agency forged ahead with plans to build the complex over the objections of diplomatic officials in Norway, who suggested the money be spent to strengthen embassies and consulates in countries that faced a higher terror risk.

A leaked diplomatic cable sent to Hillary Clinton in July 2009 shows plans for the embassy project, which were developed before she arrived at the agency, had been pushed from 2011 to 2020 to free up funding.

The cable mentions Patrick Kennedy, State's undersecretary for management, as a major force in pushing the embassy project forward.

Huma's side gigs

Huma Abedin, a longtime aide and present campaign staffer for Hillary Clinton, somehow managed to secure a rare designation as a special government employee in 2012, which allowed her to collect paychecks from Teneo Strategies and the Clinton Foundation, even as she received the $135,000 salary she drew from taxpayers as Hillary's deputy chief of staff.

Teneo Strategies is a controversial consulting firm founded by a close personal friend of Bill Clinton's. The former president served as a paid adviser to the company.

Abedin reportedly housed her communications on the same private server that shielded Hillary Clinton's records from the public during that same time period.

The State Department inspector general launched an investigation into Abedin's employment status in April.

Charity, Clinton-style

A charity watchdog claimed the Clinton Foundation tried to "strong-arm" its employees after the group placed the foundation on a watch list for philanthropies with potential problems.

The watchdog group claimed Hillary Clinton's family charity had an "atypical business model" that required further review. The Clinton Foundation will stay on the list for a minimum of six months.

The group said staffers at the Clinton Foundation attempted to receive special treatment when they learned the massive philanthropy was about to be placed on the list.

Filling up at Chevron

Chevron Corporation had been embroiled in a legal battle over allegations that it polluted a stretch of Ecuador's rainforest with toxic waste for years before Hillary Clinton joined the State Department.

But the oil conglomerate, which stood to lose billions of dollars from the lawsuit, funneled generous donations to the Clinton Foundation and a political pet project of Hillary Clinton's while it lobbied the State Department to intervene in the case on its behalf.

Chevron executives have participated in Clinton Global Initiative events that placed them on the stage with Clinton insiders such as George Stephanopoulos.

Chevron's CEO even made a personal appeal to Hillary Clinton at a State Department dinner in 2012.

The company's chief executive "took the opportunity to express our concerns about developments in the Chevron Ecuador litigation" to Hillary Clinton at the banquet, emails obtained through the Freedom of Information Act show.

While a Chevron spokesperson denied a link between the donations and the environmental lawsuit, the corporation scored a major victory in the case last year when a Clinton-appointed judge in New York blocked the enforcement of a multi-billion dollar ruling against the oil company in the U.S.

Congo cash

As a New York senator, Hillary Clinton championed a law that would have cracked down on the illicit mineral trade in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. However, as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton seemingly flouted that law in favor of foundation donors that had financial stakes in the mineral industry.

The head of a Canadian company with an enormous interest in the Congo's mining and oil sector, Lukas Lundin of Lundin Mining, announced a $100 million donation to the Clinton Foundation on the heels of Clinton's first presidential campaign, according to Schweizer.

After the Congolese government attempted to regain control of its own mines, the State Department intervened on behalf of Lundin Mining and another mining company, Freeport, that also happened to be a foundation donor.

A round of talks in 2010, thought to be aided by the Clinton State Department, concluded with the pair of well-connected companies retaining their stakes in the mines and with the Congolese government being shut out of its own resources.

Pulling a Belfast one

Hillary Clinton's final official trip as secretary of state highlighted conflicts of interest between her diplomatic post, the Clinton Foundation and Teneo Strategies.

The former secretary of state traveled to Belfast to claim an award from a major foundation donor at an event that was promoted by Teneo, the Washington Examiner reported last month.

Bill Clinton once served as a paid adviser to Teneo, which was co-founded by one of his top former aides.

The trip raised questions about whether Abedin, as the aide in charge of arranging the secretary's schedule, steered Hillary Clinton to the event in a move that would have undoubtedly benefited her other employer, Teneo.


did you notice how all the dem/libs left rather than deal with your accurate posting of facts regarding HRC?

Those seem really weak compared to starting two pointless wars and all the dead bodies associated with it.


Both parties in congress authorized and funded those stupid wars. Bush did not do it on is own, and BTW Bush is not running for anything, the hildebeast is running for president so bringing out her lies and corruption is appropriate.
 
I also am curious why the democrats in congress, and Hillary, kept voting for and funding those pointless wars? I guess they are self serving cowards, too.

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The Democrats voted for the wars because they didn't believe a President of the United States of America would LIE to them. The also didn't believe the Secretary of Defense would LIE to them.

THEY WERE WRONG.

THEY WERE LIED TO and that is why they voted for the war.

They made the mistake of trusting a Republican.


bullshit, they had the exact same intel that Bush had and came to the exact same conclusions. or are you saying that they were too stupid to read the intel and that bush was such a great communicator that he fooled them and the entire world?
 
[Q


Bush abandoned the war on terror so that he could attack Iraq

Obama agreed because he fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and now has more troops over there as terrorist are attacking our embassies and killing our ambassadors.

President Obama was saddled with the SOFA President Bush signed. All combat troop out of the cities by the summer of 2009. All troops out of the country by the end of 2011.
 
[Q


President Obama was saddled with the SOFA President Bush signed. All combat troop out of the cities by the summer of 2009. All troops out of the country by the end of 2011.

Here you go blaming Obama's failures on somebody else.

You Moon Bats elected him the Commander in Chief and he could have done anything he wanted but he continued the war for three years getting troops killed, getting Iraqis killed spending hundreds of billions of dollars and then he called it a success.

Now he has more troops over there and he has resumed bombing. Bush didn't make him do that.

You Moon Bats are all going to vote for the bitch next year that supported the invasion of Iraq so trying to pretend that that only Bush was responsible is comical.

 
[Q


President Obama was saddled with the SOFA President Bush signed. All combat troop out of the cities by the summer of 2009. All troops out of the country by the end of 2011.

Here you go blaming Obama's failures on somebody else.

You Moon Bats elected him the Commander in Chief and he could have done anything he wanted but he continued the war for three years getting troops killed, getting Iraqis killed spending hundreds of billions of dollars and then he called it a success.

Now he has more troops over there and he has resumed bombing. Bush didn't make him do that.

You Moon Bats are all going to vote for the bitch next year that supported the invasion of Iraq so trying to pretend that that only Bush was responsible is comical.



What failure? The breakup of the Iraqi State lies squarely on President Bush's failure at nation building and the Maliki Government in Iraq. The formation of ISIS by former Iraqi soldiers (Sunnis) who were disbanded by the Bush Administration started under Bush.

Bombing ISIS and especially sending in Special Ops to help the Kurds against the former Iraqis soldiers and al Qaeda in Iraq is a risk, but he is the CiC, and I wish the troops all the success in the world. Just like I did in 2003.
 
I didn't see Bush invite any Democrats to stand under the "Mission Accomplished" banner

mission_accomplished_bush.jpg


But once the war went to shit, the Republican position has changed to "It was a joint decision by Democrats and Republicans"


the banner had to do with the mission of that ship and was put up by the ship, not Bush.

But the facts refute your argument. both parties authorized and funded it. Yes, Bush is responsible, but so is every member of congress who voted for it, so is the UN, so is UK.

Your obsession with Bush has become a sickness. Denigrating him does not purge the kenyan messiah of being the worst president in history.

Oh...I forgot

It was just a "coincidence" that Bush happened to give his speech under that banner
It was just a "coincidence" that Bush never mentioned the carrier in his speech
And a "coincidence" that the White House prepared that banner


I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.
 
the banner had to do with the mission of that ship and was put up by the ship, not Bush.

But the facts refute your argument. both parties authorized and funded it. Yes, Bush is responsible, but so is every member of congress who voted for it, so is the UN, so is UK.

Your obsession with Bush has become a sickness. Denigrating him does not purge the kenyan messiah of being the worst president in history.

Oh...I forgot

It was just a "coincidence" that Bush happened to give his speech under that banner
It was just a "coincidence" that Bush never mentioned the carrier in his speech
And a "coincidence" that the White House prepared that banner


I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.
It created more terror in the region than it prevented
 
Oh...I forgot

It was just a "coincidence" that Bush happened to give his speech under that banner
It was just a "coincidence" that Bush never mentioned the carrier in his speech
And a "coincidence" that the White House prepared that banner


I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.
It created more terror in the region than it prevented



Did someone ask for your speculation?
 
the banner had to do with the mission of that ship and was put up by the ship, not Bush.

But the facts refute your argument. both parties authorized and funded it. Yes, Bush is responsible, but so is every member of congress who voted for it, so is the UN, so is UK.

Your obsession with Bush has become a sickness. Denigrating him does not purge the kenyan messiah of being the worst president in history.

Oh...I forgot

It was just a "coincidence" that Bush happened to give his speech under that banner
It was just a "coincidence" that Bush never mentioned the carrier in his speech
And a "coincidence" that the White House prepared that banner


I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.

So there were no terrorist in Iraq until after the U.S. invasion, yet the invasion was part of the war on terror?
Makes sense. :disbelief:
 
Oh...I forgot

It was just a "coincidence" that Bush happened to give his speech under that banner
It was just a "coincidence" that Bush never mentioned the carrier in his speech
And a "coincidence" that the White House prepared that banner


I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.

So there were no terrorist in Iraq until after the U.S. invasion, yet the invasion was part of the war on terror?
Makes sense. :disbelief:

The former point is not true, and the latter seems to be too complicated for your simple little mind to grasp.
 
I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.
It created more terror in the region than it prevented



Did someone ask for your speculation?
Sorry.....I am a fully paid USMB member

Membership has its privileges
 
What's the obsession with Bush?

Perhaps he sent too many people to their deaths in an immoral war, he caused the world to be more unstable, the economy to collapse. I mean, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH? (he did more than that, but hey).


Same old leftist talking points:
Sadaam was terrible murderous dictator. While I agree it was not business of USA how can you say immoral?
Unstable? ME is never stable.
GWB caused world economy to collapse? So he alone forced USA banks to make sub-prime home loans to anyone & everyone (more poor could buy a house)? Allowed them to hide and bundle these loans in Wall street packages and sell those packages across the globe?
Even the end of the Clinton years is twisted. It has been proven (on this site) that the debt increased every year during Clinton, the surplus was not true. The debt/deficit was much less than now-days but some credit to R congress. Clinton gets credit for not screwing things up badl, agreed. They played accounting tricks to make things appear surplus.

Yes, Saddam was a murderous dictator. And in response Bush went in and set up conditions so that many other people could also be murderous. Well isn't that the solution to everything. Kind of like telling a women who's being beaten by her husband to leave him and go live with some other guy who likes to beat on her even more.

No, the Middle East is never stable, though in 2000 it was far more stable than it is now. In 2000 you could go visit almost every country, Iraq was stable, Iran was stable, Syria was stable, the only conflict was Israel/Palestine.

Promoting instability in the region, and then complaining that it's unstable, is kind of hypocritical.

I didn't say Bush caused the world economy to collapse. The US is not the world. It caused the US and many European economies to collapse. Australia, Germany, China, etc, they did well at this time.
No, he didn't force banks to act badly, he ALLOWED banks to act badly. Congress didn't do anything, the President didn't do anything in order to stop bad practices BEFORE they made the economy go bad.
 
I don't see the word "coincidence" anywhere in my post, could you point them out to me?

I would like to see your proof that the white house prepared the banner that the ship displayed.

Oh, I forgot, libs don't have to prove their claims.

CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.

So there were no terrorist in Iraq until after the U.S. invasion, yet the invasion was part of the war on terror?
Makes sense. :disbelief:

The former point is not true, and the latter seems to be too complicated for your simple little mind to grasp.

:laugh:
I like you Unko, you're kinda funny, consistent and some times I agree with you. But not this time.
There was no link with al Quada but for one meeting between a Baathist and al Qaeda, Saddam's government told the Baathist to never see al Qaeda again.
The usage of the term "War on Terror" and applying the term to the invasion of Iraq was used to drum up support. Just like the false implication that Saddam was connected to al Qaeda and thusly with 9/11.

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.
Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it.
During the speech in May, Bush said, "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on."

The invasion of Iraq was not part of the war on terror....



Yes it was.

So there were no terrorist in Iraq until after the U.S. invasion, yet the invasion was part of the war on terror?
Makes sense. :disbelief:

The former point is not true, and the latter seems to be too complicated for your simple little mind to grasp.

:laugh:
I like you Unko, you're kinda funny, consistent and some times I agree with you. But not this time.
There was no link with al Quada but for one meeting between a Baathist and al Qaeda....


al qaeda wasn't and isn't the only terrorist organization in the world. Further, Iraq's influence in destabilization under saddam involved more than just having tea with unwashed explosive vest salesmen.
 
This thread contains so much entertaining insight into RWNJ's and the outrageous things they try to hoodwink us with.

First insight comes in the thread title. I don't think the OP thinks the word "worse" means what they think it means.

And then the link totally disproves the headline.

Obama should safely remain in the top 15 or so for years to come. Overall good to very good President who was able to save capitalism, help us brush off the worst of the Great Recession, and put us back on the right track. Only thing missing is the roaring comeback and we all know that's due to one whole party who has refused to do anything, even many things they agree on with the President, like tax reform that rewards American companies for investing here instead of only incentivizing them to offshore jobs. Republicans could have passed something on this years ago but new it would help a president they hate more than they love their country, so they've sat on their hands.

Even despite that, 68 straight months of private sector job growth is an American record. We're riding a personal best record and it seems like we'll continue to keep growing despite how fragile the rest of the world still is. Obama gets full credit for it. If the next few years wield more good times and higher wages, he'll eventually make the top 10.
 

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