Obamacare, my conclusion.

[Woodznutz]

The "Affordable Care Act" is an utter failure regarding the health of Americans and is a gift to the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex. The health of Americans continues to get worse while the bank accounts of big med and big pharma get fatter. Thanks to better access to healthcare insurance and the failing health of Americans the pressure on doctors and nurses is causing them to flee these professions. Thanks to Obama, and now Harris, the health crisis in America is heading for a catastrophe.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The "Affordable Care Act" is an utter failure regarding the health of Americans and is a gift to the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex. The health of Americans continues to get worse while the bank accounts of big med and big pharma get fatter. Thanks to better access to healthcare insurance and the failing health of Americans the pressure on doctors and nurses is causing them to flee these professions. Thanks to Obama, and now Harris, the health crisis in America is heading for a catastrophe.

So what is your plan?

 

[Rambunctious]

To see a specialist its a 4 month wait... To get an MRI its 2 months.... so you can be in severe pain for 6 to 9 months before you even see a surgeon..... that is what broken healthcare looks like.
Also.... its time to make big pharma commercials and ads illegal...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The "Affordable Care Act" is an utter failure regarding the health of Americans and is a gift to the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex. The health of Americans continues to get worse while the bank accounts of big med and big pharma get fatter. Thanks to better access to healthcare insurance and the failing health of Americans the pressure on doctors and nurses is causing them to flee these professions. Thanks to Obama, and now Harris, the health crisis in America is heading for a catastrophe.

More popular today than it was when it was implemented.
And I have a newsflash for you, the "catastrophe"...was brought on by just and righteous Republicans...who must have a brilliant plan hiding...somewhere.
Yeah, it was a giant FU to Trump. But it was still appropriate.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

To see a specialist its a 4 month wait... To get an MRI its 2 months.... so you can be in severe pain for 6 to 9 months before you even see a surgeon..... that is what broken healthcare looks like.
Also.... its time to make big pharma commercials and ads illegal...

And?...you people bray constantly about how we have the best health care system in the world. I mean, people come from all over the world for surgeries that they have to wait months for in their own country. Isn't that what y'all always opine?
I'll bet if you paid in cash, you'd go to the front of the line...just them.

 

[Woodznutz]

So what is your plan?

No plan. Nothing will save us.

 

[Rambunctious]

And?...you people bray constantly about how we have the best health care system in the world. I mean, people come from all over the world for surgeries that they have to wait months for in their own country. Isn't that what y'all always opine?
I'll bet if you paid in cash, you'd go to the front of the line...just them.

Who is you people?.... and what is bray?... we did have the best healthcare system in the world before Obama and Pelosi fucked it up... I can remember vividly Pelosi saying we are going to end private health insurance and put the insurance companies out of business... everything was a lie... all of it from you can keep your doctor to you will save money...

 

[Woodznutz]

More popular today than it was when it was implemented.
And I have a newsflash for you, the "catastrophe"...was brought on by just and righteous Republicans...who must have a brilliant plan hiding...somewhere.
Yeah, it was a giant FU to Trump. But it was still appropriate.
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The medical/pharma lobby has bought off both parties. Neither has a plan for health, only for sickness.

 

[Rambunctious]

The medical/pharma lobby has bought off both parties. Neither has a plan for health, only for sickness.

and death.....

 

[lafayette]

It works better for all than what we had for some.

 

[Woodznutz]

To see a specialist its a 4 month wait... To get an MRI its 2 months.... so you can be in severe pain for 6 to 9 months before you even see a surgeon..... that is what broken healthcare looks like.
Also.... its time to make big pharma commercials and ads illegal...

I have a mild ear problem. I was able to see my primary doctor right away, who referred me to a specialist. My appointment is next march. My ear will likely have cleared itself up by then.

 

[Woodznutz]

It works better for all than what we had for some.

It would work fine for everyone at low cost if people took better care of their health. People don't give a shit about their health if they can get health insurance. It's a license to get sick and to remain sick.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Who is you people?.... and what is bray?... we did have the best healthcare system in the world before Obama and Pelosi fucked it up... I can remember vividly Pelosi saying we are going to end private health insurance and put the insurance companies out of business... everything was a lie... all of it from you can keep your doctor to you will save money...

Conservatives. Republicans. The just and righteous freedom loving patriots who think we have the bestest and most beautiful healthcare system in the world. People come from all over the world to take advantage of our healthcare because they can't get what they want in their "socialist" healthcare countries. I've been listening to the same shit since the day Hillary Clinton was put in charge of reforming health care...30 years ago!! No plan was offered by the right then....and the same holds true all these years later.

Oh, and 95% of people who took an ACA plan....kept their doctor.

Thanks for playing!

 

[Woodznutz]

Conservatives. Republicans. The just and righteous freedom loving patriots who think we have the bestest and most beautiful healthcare system in the world. People come from all over the world to take advantage of our healthcare because they can't get what they want in their "socialist" healthcare countries. I've been listening to the same shit since the day Hillary Clinton was put in charge of reforming health care...30 years ago!! No plan was offered by the right then....and the same holds true all these years later.

Oh, and 95% of people who took an ACA plan....kept their doctor.

Thanks for playing!

Any plan put forth by Republicans would contain a healthy dose (no pun intended) of personal responsibility, which is of course anathema to the left. Such a plan would bring cries of anger and hysteria from the left that would reach heaven itself.

Are Conservatives Healthier Than Liberals?

New research suggests that conservatives may have a health advantage because they value personal responsibility more. This may reflect greater conscientiousness.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Any plan put forth by Republicans would contain a healthy dose (no pun intended) of personal responsibility, which is of course anathema to the left. Such a plan would bring cries of anger and hysteria from the left that would reach heaven itself.

Are Conservatives Healthier Than Liberals?

New research suggests that conservatives may have a health advantage because they value personal responsibility more. This may reflect greater conscientiousness.

www.psychologytoday.com

What kind of "personal responsibility" would you be suggesting? You gonna police everyone's heredity and come up with "guidelines"?
Love to hear how you're gonna pull that off.

 

[Woodznutz]

What kind of "personal responsibility" would you be suggesting? You gonna police everyone's heredity and come up with "guidelines"?
Love to hear how you're gonna pull that off.

The 'guidelines' are pretty well known, no mystery there. All fat people know that they eat too much.

Alcoholism runs deep in my family and has killed many of my relatives including my brother and sister. How did I escape? I quit drinking.

People aren't doomed to suffer from inherited weaknesses. Good health can mitigate those weaknesses. Genes are damaged by poor health practices and passed on. Good health will begin to restore better genetic health the same way. Sadly, most people don't give a shit about their own health or the future of human health.

Of course, there is more to it than this, that's why we're pretty much doomed.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Alcoholism runs deep in my family and has killed many of my relatives including my brother and sister. How did I escape? I quit drinking.

And luckily, it didn't run deep enough for you to be addicted to it.
Lots of people aren't that fortunate.

What it sounds like is that you want rationing of healthcare.
That's never gonna fly in this country.

 

[dblack]

So what is your plan?

Stop trying to use the government to force your preferences on others.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

To see a specialist its a 4 month wait... To get an MRI its 2 months.... so you can be in severe pain for 6 to 9 months before you even see a surgeon..... that is what broken healthcare looks like.
Also.... its time to make big pharma commercials and ads illegal...

Got an MRI appt in less than a week.

My Ortho consult was scheduled exactly two weeks from when they called me

But I do like the idea all drug ads should be banned.

 

[Crepitus]

The "Affordable Care Act" is an utter failure regarding the health of Americans and is a gift to the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex. The health of Americans continues to get worse while the bank accounts of big med and big pharma get fatter. Thanks to better access to healthcare insurance and the failing health of Americans the pressure on doctors and nurses is causing them to flee these professions. Thanks to Obama, and now Harris, the health crisis in America is heading for a catastrophe.

so lets hear your alternative.