Obamacare welfare (subsidies) will be given without verification of need!

[daveman]

I'll tell ya, the nutter attempt to make people believe that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster", a "government takeover", a "monstrosity"..........is getting very desperate.

With good reason, I suppose. You fuckers NAMED IT! In a move reminiscent of how you called yourselves "teabaggers".....only to whine about it later......this law, when it proves to be a moderate success, will burn you every time it is mentioned.

Obama-care. It does have a nice ring to it. Say it with me O-B-A-M-A-C-A-R-E.

I wonder which of your talking heads will be the first to implore you to start calling it by another name? When will your revisionist History charge the man with arrogantly naming a law after himself?

If it was so great, they wouldn't need to push back implementation and change the rules.

Neither of which Obama can do legally, of course.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Maybe I'm paying YOUR fair share.

That seems quite likely.

It does, does it? Are we going to compare portfolio's now? I can't wait!

I'm sure you can't. Did you know anyone can say anything on the internet? My girlfriend, Scarlett Johannson, and I were just talking about that.

Difference being......you are a proven liar. I speak truth. Period.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'll tell ya, the nutter attempt to make people believe that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster", a "government takeover", a "monstrosity"..........is getting very desperate.

With good reason, I suppose. You fuckers NAMED IT! In a move reminiscent of how you called yourselves "teabaggers".....only to whine about it later......this law, when it proves to be a moderate success, will burn you every time it is mentioned.

Obama-care. It does have a nice ring to it. Say it with me O-B-A-M-A-C-A-R-E.

I wonder which of your talking heads will be the first to implore you to start calling it by another name? When will your revisionist History charge the man with arrogantly naming a law after himself?

If it was so great, they wouldn't need to push back implementation and change the rules.

Neither of which Obama can do legally, of course.

It is not "so great". It is, after all, based on a Republican insurance company centered plan. But it is an improvement. And it will have some hiccups. This is a big country, dummy. Doing shit like this ain't simple.

Simple solutions to complex problems are the purview of dummies like you. Just go pray on it.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I'll tell ya, the nutter attempt to make people believe that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster", a "government takeover", a "monstrosity"..........is getting very desperate.

With good reason, I suppose. You fuckers NAMED IT! In a move reminiscent of how you called yourselves "teabaggers".....only to whine about it later......this law, when it proves to be a moderate success, will burn you every time it is mentioned.

Obama-care. It does have a nice ring to it. Say it with me O-B-A-M-A-C-A-R-E.

I wonder which of your talking heads will be the first to implore you to start calling it by another name? When will your revisionist History charge the man with arrogantly naming a law after himself?

If it was so great, they wouldn't need to push back implementation and change the rules.

Neither of which Obama can do legally, of course.

It is not "so great". It is, after all, based on a Republican insurance company centered plan. But it is an improvement. And it will have some hiccups. This is a big country, dummy. Doing shit like this ain't simple.

Simple solutions to complex problems are the purview of dummies like you. Just go pray on it.

It's such an improvement that they need to delay it, congress and the WH worked to get themselves and their people out of it and now, they dont have the administrative abilities to even verify whether someone deserves it.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If it was so great, they wouldn't need to push back implementation and change the rules.

Neither of which Obama can do legally, of course.

It is not "so great". It is, after all, based on a Republican insurance company centered plan. But it is an improvement. And it will have some hiccups. This is a big country, dummy. Doing shit like this ain't simple.

Simple solutions to complex problems are the purview of dummies like you. Just go pray on it.

It's such an improvement that they need to delay it, congress and the WH worked to get themselves and their people out of it and now, they dont have the administrative abilities to even verify whether someone deserves it.

Did FOX tell you that the entire law was delayed? Aren't you precious.

 

[RDD_1210]

Good thing you have some details and started a thread about it.

Is your head so far up your that you are unaware they announced this on Friday?

Tell me more about cough drops and how they are used to kill people at an alarming rate. I'm fascinated!

 

[RDD_1210]

Is your head so far up your that you are unaware they announced this on Friday?

Short answer....yes.

He won't be back, he never sticks in a thread when he knows that he will lose the argument.

Says the guy who refuses to explain his statement that I have in my signature. Oh the irony!

Let's face it, Your screen name is fitting and you get destroyed every time we do this.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

It is not "so great". It is, after all, based on a Republican insurance company centered plan. But it is an improvement. And it will have some hiccups. This is a big country, dummy. Doing shit like this ain't simple.

Simple solutions to complex problems are the purview of dummies like you. Just go pray on it.

It's such an improvement that they need to delay it, congress and the WH worked to get themselves and their people out of it and now, they dont have the administrative abilities to even verify whether someone deserves it.

Did FOX tell you that the entire law was delayed? Aren't you precious.

So, your response is to dillute with left wing extremist memes? Another complete shocker.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It's such an improvement that they need to delay it, congress and the WH worked to get themselves and their people out of it and now, they dont have the administrative abilities to even verify whether someone deserves it.

Did FOX tell you that the entire law was delayed? Aren't you precious.

So, your response is to dillute with left wing extremist memes? Another complete shocker.

Silly wabbit!

Is the entire law delayed? Or.....is the law being implemented as we speak? Can't be both.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Did FOX tell you that the entire law was delayed? Aren't you precious.

So, your response is to dillute with left wing extremist memes? Another complete shocker.

Silly wabbit!

Is the entire law delayed? Or.....is the law being implemented as we speak? Can't be both.

Obfuscate! Obfuscate!

There are portions of the tax that will be delayed due to mid-term elections. Slimy democrats need to put the brander into the fire until AFTER the votes are cast.

So, why do you think congress and the WH scrambled to get themselves and their people pardoned from Obama Tax?

 

[Cookie]

You know, I really dislike threads - and there are oh so many - that erode into nothing but name-calling, shouting matches. ~ sigh ~

 

[Flopper]

You're right; I was wrong about that part.

The no-verification for subsidy is pure vote-buying, however.

All this amply demonstrates that Obamacare is a huge, steaming pile of unworkable crap that needs to be buried at midnight with a stake through its heart.

The subsidy that's part of the ACA is a tax credit that can be used to purchase health insurance. To get the tax credit, you must purchase your heath insurance from a company listed on the exchange, however you can purchase the policy either through the exchange or from an agent. From the exchange web site you fill out a simple form listing your income and a few other particulars. You then choose the policy you would like to investigate or compare with other policies. The premium and your tax credit will be shown. If you specified an income when you purchased your policy that's too low, it will be caught when you file your taxes. So, pre-qualifying would seem to be a big waste of money.

Only 14 states have exchanges, what are the people in the other 36 states going to do?

Nope.

States may choose to join together to run multi-state exchanges, or they may opt out of running their own exchange, in which case the federal government will step in to create an exchange for use by their citizens.

Currently there are 17 Declared State-based Exchange
7 Planning for Partnership Exchange
27 Default to Federal Exchange
That accounts for all 50 states and DC

 

[LoneLaugher]

So, your response is to dillute with left wing extremist memes? Another complete shocker.

Silly wabbit!

Is the entire law delayed? Or.....is the law being implemented as we speak? Can't be both.

Obfuscate! Obfuscate!

There are portions of the tax that will be delayed due to mid-term elections. Slimy democrats need to put the brander into the fire until AFTER the votes are cast.

So, why do you think congress and the WH scrambled to get themselves and their people pardoned from Obama Tax?

Portions of the tax? Are you referring to the mandate that would effect only 2% of businesses? That?

Congress and the WH are not pardoned from anything. Get some facts.

Say something factual with your next post please. Anything will do.

 

[RDD_1210]

Silly wabbit!

Is the entire law delayed? Or.....is the law being implemented as we speak? Can't be both.

Obfuscate! Obfuscate!

There are portions of the tax that will be delayed due to mid-term elections. Slimy democrats need to put the brander into the fire until AFTER the votes are cast.

So, why do you think congress and the WH scrambled to get themselves and their people pardoned from Obama Tax?

Portions of the tax? Are you referring to the mandate that would effect only 2% of businesses? That?

Congress and the WH are not pardoned from anything. Get some facts.

Say something factual with your next post please. Anything will do.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Trajan]

I'll tell ya, the nutter attempt to make people believe that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster", a "government takeover", a "monstrosity"..........is getting very desperate.

With good reason, I suppose. You fuckers NAMED IT! In a move reminiscent of how you called yourselves "teabaggers".....only to whine about it later......this law, when it proves to be a moderate success, will burn you every time it is mentioned.

Obama-care. It does have a nice ring to it. Say it with me O-B-A-M-A-C-A-R-E.

I wonder which of your talking heads will be the first to implore you to start calling it by another name? When will your revisionist History charge the man with arrogantly naming a law after himself?

no one has to do a thing, Obama is doing it on his own.

There is no way they would have pulled the mandate for 'a year' and decided to forgo validation for their favorite trumpeted program ( that they counted on to help carry the 14 midterms) if they didn't realize they were in danger of a "third world" experience.

The risk software on the exchanges, apparently cannot even be adjusted for smokers, as to length of time smoking, etc. to rank their risk and cost. They will have had 54 months ( come October), thats a long time.

Oh and the Electronic notices for Medicaid users, for example; regards their eligibility for a tax subsidy, what they can receive, enrollment processes etc. has been pushed back a year too, seems to me these are some of the folks that 'needed Obamacare most'.


Oh and it was Max Baucus that said; "I just see a huge train wreck coming down..."

 

[Trajan]

Silly wabbit!

Is the entire law delayed? Or.....is the law being implemented as we speak? Can't be both.

Obfuscate! Obfuscate!

There are portions of the tax that will be delayed due to mid-term elections. Slimy democrats need to put the brander into the fire until AFTER the votes are cast.

So, why do you think congress and the WH scrambled to get themselves and their people pardoned from Obama Tax?

Portions of the tax? Are you referring to the mandate that would effect only 2% of businesses? That?

Congress and the WH are not pardoned from anything. Get some facts.

Say something factual with your next post please. Anything will do.

maybe you ought to check your 'facts' and stop swallowing and peddling stats unless you investigate and understand them;

-small biz. ;

- 20 people or under employ approx. 20 million people,

- firms with less than 100, 18 million,

-500 and under, 15 million


and 500 or more make up the rest equaling approx. 48 %.....

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obfuscate! Obfuscate!

There are portions of the tax that will be delayed due to mid-term elections. Slimy democrats need to put the brander into the fire until AFTER the votes are cast.

So, why do you think congress and the WH scrambled to get themselves and their people pardoned from Obama Tax?

Portions of the tax? Are you referring to the mandate that would effect only 2% of businesses? That?

Congress and the WH are not pardoned from anything. Get some facts.

Say something factual with your next post please. Anything will do.

maybe you ought to check your 'facts' and stop swallowing and peddling stats unless you investigate and understand them;

-small biz. ;

- 20 people or under employ approx. 20 million people,

- firms with less than 100, 18 million,

-500 and under, 15 million


and 500 or more make up the rest equaling approx. 48 %.....

What?

I will let you think about it some more.

 

[daveman]

It does, does it? Are we going to compare portfolio's now? I can't wait!

I'm sure you can't. Did you know anyone can say anything on the internet? My girlfriend, Scarlett Johannson, and I were just talking about that.

Difference being......you are a proven liar. I speak truth. Period.

When have I ever been a proven liar?

Oh, yeah, I forgot -- you SAID SO ON THE INTERNET.


You're dismissed, kid.

 

[Trajan]

Portions of the tax? Are you referring to the mandate that would effect only 2% of businesses? That?

Congress and the WH are not pardoned from anything. Get some facts.

Say something factual with your next post please. Anything will do.

maybe you ought to check your 'facts' and stop swallowing and peddling stats unless you investigate and understand them;

-small biz. ;

- 20 people or under employ approx. 20 million people,

- firms with less than 100, 18 million,

-500 and under, 15 million


and 500 or more make up the rest equaling approx. 48 %.....

What?

I will let you think about it some more.

I already looked up how many provide health care etc. before I posted....

I will let you think about it some more.......

 

[daveman]

I'll tell ya, the nutter attempt to make people believe that Obamacare is an "unmitigated disaster", a "government takeover", a "monstrosity"..........is getting very desperate.

With good reason, I suppose. You fuckers NAMED IT! In a move reminiscent of how you called yourselves "teabaggers".....only to whine about it later......this law, when it proves to be a moderate success, will burn you every time it is mentioned.

Obama-care. It does have a nice ring to it. Say it with me O-B-A-M-A-C-A-R-E.

I wonder which of your talking heads will be the first to implore you to start calling it by another name? When will your revisionist History charge the man with arrogantly naming a law after himself?

If it was so great, they wouldn't need to push back implementation and change the rules.

Neither of which Obama can do legally, of course.

It is not "so great". It is, after all, based on a Republican insurance company centered plan. But it is an improvement. And it will have some hiccups. This is a big country, dummy. Doing shit like this ain't simple.

Simple solutions to complex problems are the purview of dummies like you. Just go pray on it.

They've had three years and four months to work on this pig. And it's not going to get better.