Obama's Long Reach Snares Muslim Brotherhood Leader

[CrusaderFrank]

Morsi was elected to office. A mistake by the Egyption people, and deposed from office by a military coup. None of this is due to American influence. We would rather have seen a moderate leader elected, would have rather seen Morsi deposed by parliamentary action than military. But the decisions made in Egypt, or most other natons, are not ours to make. It is not a good situation from any point of view.

Obama supported Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The World's anti-Terrorist Hero:

Egypt on Tuesday announced the arrest of the supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, dealing another blow to the group as it struggles to maintain order amid a tough crackdown by authorities, who are looking to quell protests in the wake of President Mohammed Morsi's ouster.



Read more: Egypt arrests supreme leader of Muslim Brotherhood amid crackdown on protests | Fox News


Excellent!

Obama said that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular group, when did you change his mind?

source?

Piece of fucking advice, if you want to debate politics watch the news.

 

[tinydancer]

Morsi was elected to office. A mistake by the Egyption people, and deposed from office by a military coup. None of this is due to American influence. We would rather have seen a moderate leader elected, would have rather seen Morsi deposed by parliamentary action than military. But the decisions made in Egypt, or most other natons, are not ours to make. It is not a good situation from any point of view.

obama fully supported Morsi. He fully supported the cannibalistic terrorists in Syria. Now he's trying to distance himself from that support.

Obama ducks criticism of his support of Muslim Brotherhood Morsi with lies

A lie is a lie in any language. A lie is a lie in any country.

And on today’s political front there is no bigger liar than President Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama, who reiterated only yesterday that the U.S. is not aligned with and is not supporting any particular political party or group while condemning the ongoing violence across Egypt, is lying and his condemnation of the violence merely the far away mewlings of a paper tiger.

Obama gave Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi $250-million only last March 5th. Obama also gave Morsi 200 Abrams tanks and 12 F-16s delivered in 2013 with the promise of another eight by the end of this year.

That’s hardcore support of the Muslim Brotherhood of which Morsi is a member in good standing.

Of course obama would support the muslim brotherhood, he has brotherhood in his own administration!

The middle east is having none of it. obama threatened to withhold 1.3 billion in aid, to the Egyptian military, and other middle eastern countries stepped up with financial assistance ranging from 3 billion from Kuwait to five billion from Saudi Arabia. We have no leverage in the middle east. They are intending to throw obama and the United States out on our collective asses. We have no more influence in the world. obama is no longer leader of the free world, the free world has been tossed.

We gave military and financial aid to Mubarak as well and give aid and financial support to the Egyptian military as well. So the fact that we continued our official aid policies towards Egypt when Morsi was in power doesn't mean that we are die hard supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, that suggestion seems a bit silly honestly.

Also for the record, we should have continued aid to the Morsi government when we did. It was a democratically elected government, and Morsi had shown that he was willing to play ball with both us and Israel.

Morsi called Jews the descendants of apes and pigs. What part of he wasn't going to play nice in the sandbox with Israel did you miss?

From the NYT :

CAIRO — Nearly three years ago, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood delivered a speech urging Egyptians to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. In a television interview months later, the same leader described Zionists as “these bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs.”

Morsi did not refer explicitly to Jews, but echoed anti-Semitic themes.

That leader, Mohamed Morsi, is now president of Egypt — and his comments may be coming back to haunt him.

and whoopsies...

As the chief of the Brotherhood’s political arm before becoming president, Mr. Morsi was one of the group’s most outspoken critics of Zionists and Israel. He sometimes referred to Zionists as “Draculas” or “vampires,” using demonizing language historically associated with anti-Semitism. Although he explicitly denigrates Jews in the recently exposed videos, Mr. Morsi and other political and Brotherhood leaders typically restrict their inflammatory comments to the more ambiguous category of “Zionists.”

and more whoopsies...

In the video footage first broadcast Friday on Mr. Youssef’s television program, Mr. Morsi addressed a rally in his hometown in the Nile Delta to denounce the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

“We must never forget, brothers, to nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred for them: for Zionists, for Jews,” Mr. Morsi declared. Egyptian children “must feed on hatred; hatred must continue,” he said. “The hatred must go on for God and as a form of worshiping him.”

“The land of Palestine will not be freed except through resistance,” he said, praising the militant group Hamas as an extension of the Brotherhood.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/w...de-anti-jewish-slurs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[blackhawk]

If we had backed Mubarak or at very least not made the public declaration he must go maybe the violence in Egypt would not be happening now.

Republicans and their extremists do like these strong-armed dictators, don't they?

Democratic leaders are tough to put in their back pocket!

You do know Mubarak held power in Egypt through both Clinton terms and Obamas first term guess they liked him to. Now how are things going in Egypt with him gone?

 

[aaronleland]

Obama gave Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi $250-million only last March 5th. Obama also gave Morsi 200 Abrams tanks and 12 F-16s delivered in 2013 with the promise of another eight by the end of this year.

I never understood this argument. Obama didn't give Morsi 200 Abrams tanks and 12 F-16s. He gave them to the Egyptian military. The same military that booted him on his ass. Do you really think he sees receiving those weapons as a blessing now?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The World's anti-Terrorist Hero:

Egypt on Tuesday announced the arrest of the supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, dealing another blow to the group as it struggles to maintain order amid a tough crackdown by authorities, who are looking to quell protests in the wake of President Mohammed Morsi's ouster.



Read more: Egypt arrests supreme leader of Muslim Brotherhood amid crackdown on protests | Fox News


Excellent!

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That's what happens when you start snorting the Obama Kool Aid straight out of the can

 

[drivebymedia]

The World's anti-Terrorist Hero:

Egypt on Tuesday announced the arrest of the supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, dealing another blow to the group as it struggles to maintain order amid a tough crackdown by authorities, who are looking to quell protests in the wake of President Mohammed Morsi's ouster.



Read more: Egypt arrests supreme leader of Muslim Brotherhood amid crackdown on protests | Fox News


Excellent!

Obama said that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular group, when did you change his mind?

He hasn't ...

 

[blackhawk]

If we had backed Mubarak or at very least not made the public declaration he must go maybe the violence in Egypt would not be happening now.

Do you have any supporting evidence of this? Our verbal declaration that he should step down was hardly the primary factor in his removal from office. It seems like a lot of people in here have forgotten that it was the Egyptian military who removed him from power and then ruled in Egypt for over a year before the Muslim Brotherhood took over in response to popular elections.

No that is why I said maybe the violence going on right now wouldn't be happening.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There are new faces at the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, the Defense Department and State Department.

All 100% Obama people.

There is no hiding from these guys - anywhere in the world.

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[deltex1]

The World's anti-Terrorist Hero:

Egypt on Tuesday announced the arrest of the supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, dealing another blow to the group as it struggles to maintain order amid a tough crackdown by authorities, who are looking to quell protests in the wake of President Mohammed Morsi's ouster.



Read more: Egypt arrests supreme leader of Muslim Brotherhood amid crackdown on protests | Fox News




Excellent!

Did Obabble hook him with a 9 iron?

 

[drivebymedia]

That's what happens when you start snorting the Obama Kool Aid straight out of the can

Tea party claims Obama caused the Egyptian mess ... so he's fixing it .... his way ....

 

[aaronleland]

When something goes wrong in Egypt the right blames Obama. When something goes right the left gives him credit. Both sides are giving him too much credit on his actual influence. It's nothing but partisan hackery from the left and right.

 

[tinydancer]

The World's anti-Terrorist Hero:

Egypt on Tuesday announced the arrest of the supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, dealing another blow to the group as it struggles to maintain order amid a tough crackdown by authorities, who are looking to quell protests in the wake of President Mohammed Morsi's ouster.



Read more: Egypt arrests supreme leader of Muslim Brotherhood amid crackdown on protests | Fox News


Excellent!

Obama said that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular group, when did you change his mind?

source?

Obama had his Intel Chief Clapper spreading the propaganda that the MB was mostly secular. You really need to get up to speed.

This is old news. From RCP

DNI James Clapper: Muslim Brotherhood "Largely Secular," "Has Eschewed Violence" | RealClearPolitics

 

[tinydancer]

That's what happens when you start snorting the Obama Kool Aid straight out of the can

Tea party claims Obama caused the Egyptian mess ... so he's fixing it .... his way ....

You're so full of shit.



You must have missed my post with link where Obama called for Morsi and the MB to be reinstated.

International news.


President Barack Obama urged Egypt's military to hand back control to a democratic, civilian government without delay, but stopped short of calling the downfall of Mohamed Morsi a coup.

Obama said on Wednesday he was "deeply concerned" by the military's move to topple Morsi's government and suspend Egypt's constitution. He said he was ordering the US government to assess what the military's actions meant for US foreign aid to Egypt.

Under US law, the government must suspend foreign aid to any nation whose elected leader is ousted in a coup d'etat. The US provides $1.5bn a year to Egypt in military and economic assistance.

"I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters," Obama said.

Before the army took power, the State Department chided Morsi for not doing enough to respond to protesters, and appealed for calm.

"We believe all sides need to take steps to talk to each other and to lower the level of violence," said spokeswoman Jen Psaki on Wednesday. "We feel there was an absence of significant specific steps in Morsi's statement. He must do more to be truly responsive to the concerns of the Eygptian people."

US in bind over Egypt coup after supporting Morsi but encouraging protesters | World news | theguardian.com

 

[dilloduck]

When something goes wrong in Egypt the right blames Obama. When something goes right the left gives him credit. Both sides are giving him too much credit on his actual influence. It's nothing but partisan hackery from the left and right.

Well somewhere in the middle of all the hackery our current administration is still up for giving them a billion dollars and denying that this was a military coup.

 

[aaronleland]

When something goes wrong in Egypt the right blames Obama. When something goes right the left gives him credit. Both sides are giving him too much credit on his actual influence. It's nothing but partisan hackery from the left and right.

Well somewhere in the middle of all the hackery our current administration is still up for giving them a billion dollars and denying that this was a military coup.

True, but that money went towards military and economic assistance. We gave Mubarak money as well. Then the same military we assisted with funds booted Morsi from power. I agree though, refusing to call it a military coup is ridiculous.

 

[Osomir]

Obama said that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular group, when did you change his mind?

source?

Piece of fucking advice, if you want to debate politics watch the news.

Ah so you don't have one then. got it

 

[drivebymedia]

When something goes wrong in Egypt the right blames Obama. When something goes right the left gives him credit. Both sides are giving him too much credit on his actual influence. It's nothing but partisan hackery from the left and right.

It's called "politics" .....

 

[tinydancer]

source?

Piece of fucking advice, if you want to debate politics watch the news.

Ah so you don't have one then. got it

I gave you a link to Real Clear Politics. Jake Clapper Obama's intel man made the statement.

 

[Osomir]

Piece of fucking advice, if you want to debate politics watch the news.

Ah so you don't have one then. got it

I gave you a link to Real Clear Politics. Jake Clapper Obama's intel man made the statement.

1.) You stated that President Obama made such comments, so far you haven't even tried to support that claim.

2.) Your own link doesn't agree with you with regards to Holder. Did you even read the editor's note?