Obama's Obsession with the One Percent

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By Jon N. Hall
March 14, 2013



On January 8 in "Stories behind the tax cuts," Kansas City Star columnist Dave Helling began his commentary thus:

Pop quiz: Who's the bigger tax cutter, Barack Obama or Ronald Reagan?

Answer: Obama. The fiscal cliff agreement, signed early this year, cuts expected federal income tax revenue by about $1.8 trillion over the next five years, while the famous supply-side Reagan tax cuts in 1981 cost the government about $1.5 trillion, in inflation-adjusted cash, over their first five years.

In a better world, Republicans would understand this and claim their fiscal cliff victory. Had a Republican president passed such a dramatic federal income tax reduction, he or she would be considered a supply-side saint, not a budget-busting socialist.

Regardless of whether or not Obama is a socialist, there can be no question that he is a "budget-buster." But there are several other things to look at here. First, Helling compares a projection with an historical fact. That hardly seems fair. We know what revenues were in those "first five years" after the 1981 rate cuts. But to say what revenue would have been without the cuts is to credit economic projections with more prescience than they deserve. Economic forecasts, especially those of the government, are often wrong. Else we wouldn't have so much economic turmoil.


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There seems to be no obsession with the facts that Oblamer is also a millionaire several times over and refuses to relinquish the same amounts he demands from others.
 
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By Dutch
3/14/2013


Why he does not have one original thought in his head......
 
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Obama wants to destroy all the people that can't transfer the load over sea's. Look how it worked in france, etc.

These bastards are clueless of economics or just work for the super rich. Anyone that has a small business gets fucked to pay for the free shit.
 
By Jon N. Hall
March 14, 2013



On January 8 in "Stories behind the tax cuts," Kansas City Star columnist Dave Helling began his commentary thus:

Pop quiz: Who's the bigger tax cutter, Barack Obama or Ronald Reagan?

Answer: Obama. The fiscal cliff agreement, signed early this year, cuts expected federal income tax revenue by about $1.8 trillion over the next five years, while the famous supply-side Reagan tax cuts in 1981 cost the government about $1.5 trillion, in inflation-adjusted cash, over their first five years.

In a better world, Republicans would understand this and claim their fiscal cliff victory. Had a Republican president passed such a dramatic federal income tax reduction, he or she would be considered a supply-side saint, not a budget-busting socialist.

Regardless of whether or not Obama is a socialist, there can be no question that he is a "budget-buster." But there are several other things to look at here. First, Helling compares a projection with an historical fact. That hardly seems fair. We know what revenues were in those "first five years" after the 1981 rate cuts. But to say what revenue would have been without the cuts is to credit economic projections with more prescience than they deserve. Economic forecasts, especially those of the government, are often wrong. Else we wouldn't have so much economic turmoil.


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There seems to be no obsession with the facts that Oblamer is also a millionaire several times over and refuses to relinquish the same amounts he demands from others.

Obama and his friends ARE the One Percent. How ironic, eh? When do you think the Occupy Wallstreet crowd is going get brought up to speed on that one? Any ideas?
 
How about a discussion talking about the 1%'s obsession with the 1%!!!?
 
Well, yeah, that's half of the picture in a nutshell. Realizing there was no political will to raise taxes on those making under 250K, Obama didn't venture there. The flip side is something like 60% support two bucks in cuts for one in revenue. But, the gop base doesn't have the political will to go there. Rather, the quasi libertarians are banking on eventual default that will end middle class entitletment and usher in their JohnGalt utopia.
 
Here is the problem with that:

- Punishing those who outsource or shelter taxes overseas will just push them to base all their operations overseas, since it is a global marketplace now.
- The CEO's of those companies would have to choose patriotism over profit to choose higher taxes over outsourcing or locating overseas.

And the 1% would pick profit over patriotism....every single time.
 
Here is the problem with that:

- Punishing those who outsource or shelter taxes overseas will just push them to base all their operations overseas, since it is a global marketplace now.
- The CEO's of those companies would have to choose patriotism over profit to choose higher taxes over outsourcing or locating overseas.

And the 1% would pick profit over patriotism....every single time.

Sadly, you make a good point. :( There's no stopping the very rich and our society wants the government to do things.

There isn't easy answer as Greece is very real if we push it too far.
 
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Here is the problem with that:

- Punishing those who outsource or shelter taxes overseas will just push them to base all their operations overseas, since it is a global marketplace now.
- The CEO's of those companies would have to choose patriotism over profit to choose higher taxes over outsourcing or locating overseas.

And the 1% would pick profit over patriotism....every single time.

Sadly, you make a good point. :( There's no stopping the very rich and our society wants the government to do things.

There isn't easy answer as Greece is very real if we push it too far.

Yep. And, unfortunately, I've been unfairly labeled as a radical left winger all of a sudden.....just because I told the Republican Party to fuck off last year.

Yet, I've always been consistent on gun rights and the FACT that with the new globalized marketplace, there is really no way to stop the rich from being rich.

Id suggest we market America as a very safe and fun place to live. Have very low corporate taxes to encourage business to stay here, and use our property taxes as a way to fund a reasonable government. Yes, reasonable. Not bloated like we have now, there is so much we can cut. Again, Im no liberal. Im just no longer a Republican.

But at some point, individual Americans must take a long look in the mirror and decide how much patriotism means to them, how important wealth is to them, and just how much material shit do they truly need to be happy. But certain realities of human nature will never go away: Greed and evil. We can ban guns and jack taxes through the roof, and it will never end mindless violence or income inequality.

The best we can do is find a way to fund a reasonable government for protection and a modest safety net. That provides a canvas for each individual to have a chance to make a life for themselves. What they do with it after that is up to them, as society has done it's part by providing physical safety and a modest safety net.
 
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By Dutch
3/14/2013


Why he does not have one original thought in his head......

Aah yes, there's a sucker born everyday. You've been one for many years as we all can see. Being misinformed comes quite easily to you.

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Obama wants to destroy all the people that can't transfer the load over sea's. Look how it worked in france, etc.

These bastards are clueless of economics or just work for the super rich. Anyone that has a small business gets fucked to pay for the free shit.

You would think that Obama and the Dems are calling for tax increases that would put the top rate back to 70%. The increases being called for still leave the top rate at close to their lowest levels since before the Great Depression.
 

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