No rush freak Just keep sticking pins into the fat pig and wait till senate becomes Dem THEN impeach the POS
Official Impeachment Day Thread
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toobfreak
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I tried that. But when I did, all that happened was a bunch of silverware from the White House fell out of her.
Redfish
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are unemployment levels at all time lows?
Is the DOW are record highs?
did Christmas on line sales break records this year?
Is the economy better now than in 2016? If you credit Obama, tell us exactly what he did that caused today's good numbers. did obama negotiate USMCA? Did Obama sit down with Kim? Did Obama eliminate regulations that were hampering US businesses? did obama pass a tax cut for all americans that pay taxes?
I would love to hear how obama caused this economic boom, bring it.
joaquinmiller
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Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
joaquinmiller
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You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
What was it when Obama took over from gwb? He whipped that like a rented mule tooYou want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Obama, in a tight race with Bush for the dumbest president of all time, spent both terms blaming Bush and now he is trying to take credit for Trump!
joaquinmiller
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What was it when Obama took over from gwb? He whipped that like a rented mule tooYou want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Unemployment was already 4.7% in 2016 under Obama. Arguing against a long-term Social Security projection of 5.5% is as irrelevant as arguing against Trump's promise of "4, 5, even 6% growth".
Before the tax cuts were passed, Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) predicted “Armageddon.” But, one year later, as GDP growth soared, unemployment declined to a 50-year low and working-class wages increased at the fastest rate in a decade, the best the Democrats could do was claim the tax cuts were a “sugar high” and that, rather than a 2018 economic collapse, America faced a 2019 recession.You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
When Obama left office, the economy had 2 million more people unemployed than job openings. Now there are millions more job openings than people unemployed. And that is with the unemployment rate at a 50-year low and more people working than at any time in the nation’s history.
Trump has racked up so many consecutive months when the U.S. economy produced more job openings than there were people unemployed. This is the first time that happened so consistently since the Bureau of Labor Statistics began reporting the data in 2000. It didn’t happen once during the Obama administration.
Let’s look at what Obama-Biden bequeathed to the Trump administration on wages. When they took office in January 2009, wages were growing at 3.6 percent — and that was during the recession. By May of that year, the number had dipped to 2.9 percent. There was not a single month throughout the remaining 91 months of the Obama administration when wage growth hit even 2.9 percent — and only two months when it managed to hit 2.8 percent. When Obama-Biden left office in January 2017, wage growth was 2.4 percent. That is their legacy on wages.
With employers in the Trump era competing for workers to fill plentiful job openings, the country in April experienced its ninth straight month of wage growth at or above 3 percent. A recent survey of economists found that nearly 70 percent expected even faster wage growth over the coming year, and that Trump Strong wage growth has been delivered!
The Trump administration’s policies have finally produced the economic benefits that American workers should have experienced coming out of the recession but did not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/23/what-biden-gets-wrong-about-trump-economy/
joaquinmiller
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Before the tax cuts were passed, Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) predicted “Armageddon.” But, one year later, as GDP growth soared, unemployment declined to a 50-year low and working-class wages increased at the fastest rate in a decade, the best the Democrats could do was claim the tax cuts were a “sugar high” and that, rather than a 2018 economic collapse, America faced a 2019 recession.You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
When Obama left office, the economy had 2 million more people unemployed than job openings. Now there are millions more job openings than people unemployed. And that is with the unemployment rate at a 50-year low and more people working than at any time in the nation’s history.
Trump has racked up so many consecutive months when the U.S. economy produced more job openings than there were people unemployed. This is the first time that happened so consistently since the Bureau of Labor Statistics began reporting the data in 2000. It didn’t happen once during the Obama administration.
Let’s look at what Obama-Biden bequeathed to the Trump administration on wages. When they took office in January 2009, wages were growing at 3.6 percent — and that was during the recession. By May of that year, the number had dipped to 2.9 percent. There was not a single month throughout the remaining 91 months of the Obama administration when wage growth hit even 2.9 percent — and only two months when it managed to hit 2.8 percent. When Obama-Biden left office in January 2017, wage growth was 2.4 percent. That is their legacy on wages.
With employers in the Trump era competing for workers to fill plentiful job openings, the country in April experienced its ninth straight month of wage growth at or above 3 percent. A recent survey of economists found that nearly 70 percent expected even faster wage growth over the coming year, and that Trump Strong wage growth has been delivered!
The Trump administration’s policies have finally produced the economic benefits that American workers should have experienced coming out of the recession but did not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/23/what-biden-gets-wrong-about-trump-economy/
If I understand your post correctly, you're trying to avoid admitting the unemployment trend line didn't change from Obama to Trump.
Faun
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Where do you yahoos get your information? Statute or no statute, the Constitution still reads the Senate holds a trial for impeachments. The term, "high crimes and misdemeanors," is not speaking of statutes.Law prof: Without even a Statutory Crime, the Senate isn’t even required to hold an impeachment trial at all
All McConnell needs to do is to call a vote to dismiss before a trial even starts — and that would require only a simple majority, as it is just a procedural motion. McConnell has mentioned instant dismissal as an option for three months.
The Senate majority may make a procedural motion to adjourn the start of a trial until Nov. 4, 2020. That would allow the American people to decide the president’s fate at the ballot box. A simple majority of 51 votes would be necessary to leave the decision in the hands of the Presidential Electorate.
A trial is unnecessary as the House articles are defective. Both fail to meet the constitutional threshold of “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
This is what happens when one crazed party defines “abuse of power” untethered to any criminal act, and especially in the absence of any direct evidence of testimony to it. It leaves everything open to interpretation, which leads to nothing but spin. This is precisely why the founders chose not to include “maladministration” as an impeachable act, and why they feared that impeachment would turn into a bitterly partisan exercise.
Graham has bigger fish to fry than Schiff; he wants to take aim at the FBI and corrumpt intelligence agencies involved in Operation Crossfire Hurricane, not Adam Schiff, whose atrocious work speaks for itself. A quick dismissal and a renewed focus on FISA and the FBI’s surveillance of Carter Page would allow for a change of subject that, frankly, both parties need more than they realize.
Redfish
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Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
the UE rate was at 10% during Obama's first years, the only way it could go from there was down. Now, tell us specifically what Obama did to make it go down.
We agree on deficit spending and increasing the debt, where were you when Obama increased it from 10 trillion to 20 trillion? more than any other president, and he did it while reducing our military and borrowing from China. I have favored across the board cuts to every federal program---------every one-----------including congressional salaries, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, military, social security, all of them. But that will never happen because being in congress means getting obscenely rich at taxpayer expense and they will never stop that gravy train. Term limits would help, as would age limits.
Redfish
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You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
joaquinmiller
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- Oct 12, 2013
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You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
I said the trend line continued. You admitted it. Your hypothetical about Hillary is worthy of a Trump rally - boldly asserted.
I believe it will take the State Legislatures acting in concert to amend the Constitution. The State Legislatures should call a Convention to draft a Balanced Budget. A second amendment to deal with our experience that Congress ignores us, is a provision that allows a majority of the State Legislatures, that pass the identical bill, to put it on the President's desk for signature into law. This will end the problem of the Beltway being the only game in town when Federal Action is necessary.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
the UE rate was at 10% during Obama's first years, the only way it could go from there was down. Now, tell us specifically what Obama did to make it go down.
We agree on deficit spending and increasing the debt, where were you when Obama increased it from 10 trillion to 20 trillion? more than any other president, and he did it while reducing our military and borrowing from China. I have favored across the board cuts to every federal program---------every one-----------including congressional salaries, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, military, social security, all of them. But that will never happen because being in congress means getting obscenely rich at taxpayer expense and they will never stop that gravy train. Term limits would help, as would age limits.
You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
Cash For Clunkers!You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
Green Shoots!
Jobs saved or created by trickle down government spending!
Redfish
Diamond Member
You want Trump to refuse to sign the appropriation bills passed by the House and shut down the government so they can add another article of impeachment? He's not going to do it. If you don't like Congressional spending, take it up with Pelosi and McConnell.
Did the trend continue, or change, under Trump?
Does the "greatest economy" in the history of economies need $1.1 trillion in deficit spending? I'm not a deficit hawk, but need or stimulus should drive deficit spending. Where do you think the US economy would be without it?
As for the labor economy, this is the best labor economy of our lifetimes. Obama's final Social Security report presumed 5.5% unemployment, and Trump's whipped that like a rented mule.
Did the trend continue or change?
it continued, if hillary had won it would have gone back up.
you want to give the Kenyan credit, so tell us exactly which of his actions caused it to trend down.
I said the trend line continued. You admitted it. Your hypothetical about Hillary is worthy of a Trump rally - boldly asserted.
still waiting for you to tell us what Barry did to cause it to trend down. Or acknowledge what Trump has done to continue the trend. But I don't expect either from you.
As to Hillary Clinton, the most corrupt human ever to hold a government job, her losing saved the USA. Putin would have used her 30,000 emails to blackmail her from day one, he would have owned the lying bitch.
Some truth for you red ,you need it
The GOP will do any sick shit they want to do, just as they always have. They don't need any excuse to rationalize it.
Cons want to cheat while forcing Democrats to play fair. That shit is over. We can obstruct, frustrate, and defy as well. After all, we learned from the cons.
The GOP will do any sick shit they want to do, just as they always have. They don't need any excuse to rationalize it.
Cons want to cheat while forcing Democrats to play fair. That shit is over. We can obstruct, frustrate, and defy as well. After all, we learned from the cons.
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