Cecilie1200
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Are you incapable of telling who's actually saying something, or are you responding to me for someone else's remark simply because you so desperately want my attention, ankle biter?
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Official USMB Debate 2020 -- "Round One" Thread..
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Are you incapable of telling who's actually saying something, or are you responding to me for someone else's remark simply because you so desperately want my attention, ankle biter?
LOL but some of them are good people?Biden was asked during the debate and his response was all acts of violence should be prosecuted.Post it. So had Trump but he was asked again. So I’m asking why Biden wasn’t asked again?Um, Biden has been denouncing violence from anyone and everyone over and over, including Antifa.And the question not asked, mr VP do you condemn antifa violence? I want to know whyLet’s look at what Trump actually said, shall we?
Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, I’m willing to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
Now, just because he didn't utter the words he had previously, they want to say he didn’t condemn them. Who gets to choose? Why must he continually be asked to condemn once he already has?
Trump & Biden First Presidential Debate 2020 | Transcripts
Full transcript of the first 2020 presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The debate was moderated by Chris Wallace of Fox News on September 29, 2020 in Cleveland, Ohio.www.rev.com
His previous comments-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
And? Trump's said that a dozen times, and it doesn't stop you from trying to blame him for violence that's being caused by people who aren't remotely his supporters. Please explain to me why it's supposed to be a "Well, that's settled, and he's a perfect angel" moment for Biden.
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Arsonists are like that, yeah they are.I have a question for Trump supporters:
If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?
Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?
Or has the climate changed?
So, why the sudden increase in arson?
A good example of a confirmed provable Trump lie.One more lie from the Republican POS
Mike Reese
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In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.
10:07 PM · Sep 29, 2020
Faun
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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Proud Boy with wife and kids
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastrwww.politifact.com
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
I can already tell you have no verbal comprehension skills. At all.
You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT.
You are a foolish human being.
The protest of the statute was organized, promoted, hosted, sponsored and attended by racists. It was a racist event.
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And this picturebook proves what, exactly?
It proves what I said -- the event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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Proud Boy with wife and kids
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More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
I can already tell you have no verbal comprehension skills. At all.
You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT.
You are a foolish human being.
The protest of the statute was organized, promoted, hosted, sponsored and attended by racists. It was a racist event.
And this picturebook proves what, exactly?
It proves what I said -- the event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups.
Link that Trump knew that ahead of time. Thanks.
Richard-H
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Biden:Biden may not have won the debate, but it was obvious that Trump lost it!!!!!!!!
-- Said America was systemically racist
-- Said Antifa was just an idea
-- Refused to say if he would pack the court
-- Said he was the Democrat Party and then said he was just a former VP when asked if he spoke with authorities in Oregon to help quell the violence
He gets a D-
You may give him a D- if you'd like
But the rest of America is going to give him the Presidency.
Richard-H
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The fact checkers are done , everything Trump said was a lie as usual. Don't you hate Nazi's feel like fools.
Why are you making NAZIS possessive, you fucking idiot?
Hmmm... a grammar Nazi defending Nazis...not surprising!!!
Faun
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
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He didn't condemn the KKK or the Proud Boys or the NPI or skinheads, etc... So that's who he meant are very fine people. Thanks for clearing that up.
He designated the KKK a terrorist organization, you idiot. That's the ultimate form of condemnation a hate group in America can receive. They are now among the ranks of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hezbollah.
You really don't pay attention, do you?
Great, let's see you prove Impeached Trump has designated the KKK as a terrorist group....
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Israel is our dear ally. Too bad you don;t know what that is. TraitorYou fn idiot you israel before America nit wit Wallace lost control because the biggest asshole ever in our WH wouldn't shut his stinkin lying mouthOnly scumbag here, traitor, is you. Muting the mike on both would have been prudent. Wallace lost control.Best thing to do is shut off the mike of the guy who is NOT speaking Take away the scumbag trumps whole gameWhy aren’t they discussing foreign policy?
Did you actually expect Chris Wallace to choose to allow Trump to talk about his historic peace deal? No, it's FAR more important to the future of the nation that they gabble on about whether or not climate change is responsible for forest fires.
The topics for this debate were negotiated and made clear beforehand.
I'm sure that foreign policy will be a topic at one of the future debates.
We may be Isreal's dear ally, but Isreal is by no means our ally.
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If you’re wrong will you promise to never post here again?Biden:Biden may not have won the debate, but it was obvious that Trump lost it!!!!!!!!
-- Said America was systemically racist
-- Said Antifa was just an idea
-- Refused to say if he would pack the court
-- Said he was the Democrat Party and then said he was just a former VP when asked if he spoke with authorities in Oregon to help quell the violence
He gets a D-
You may give him a D- if you'd like
But the rest of America is going to give him the Presidency.
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Soros-funded Antifa destabilizing America, other countries - India Narrative
Beginning as an anti-fascist group, Antifa is ‘more as an ideology than an organization.’ But it has spread has spread fast and it specializes in organizing violent demonstrations
indianarrative.com
if they are not "organized" then how is soros funding them *around the world*?
this is not an american movement people, they are in countries all around the world doing this shit.
LoneLaugher
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Trump LOVES it when anyone wears one of his dopey hats or waves one of his dopey flags.
To him, that makes someone a good person. It doesn't matter if said person is a violent white nationalist who just ran someone over or an Islamic jihadi twink sucking balls during a gay pride event.
Trump cares about Trump. If you support him, he will not condemn your words or your actions.
Many of you morons are fine with that because you are stupid enough to believe that he cares about you. You won't condemn his words or actions for the same fucking reason.
To him, that makes someone a good person. It doesn't matter if said person is a violent white nationalist who just ran someone over or an Islamic jihadi twink sucking balls during a gay pride event.
Trump cares about Trump. If you support him, he will not condemn your words or your actions.
Many of you morons are fine with that because you are stupid enough to believe that he cares about you. You won't condemn his words or actions for the same fucking reason.
Cecilie1200
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One more lie from the Republican POS
Mike Reese
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In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.
10:07 PM · Sep 29, 2020
In the Presidential debate, Biden said there were law enforcement groups who supported him, but couldn't name any. Oh, but I guess that's not a lie, because it was said by someone you like. That just makes it "a fact that I've always known, now that I was just told to have always known it" in your eyes.
Cecilie1200
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What can we say? Unlike you, we can actually have high expectations of OUR candidate.
Why make believe that's a big deal repub idiot?? Why not ask your ah who he is in debt for for 4 hundred million and how he's paying putin off??One more lie from the Republican POS
Mike Reese
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In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.
10:07 PM · Sep 29, 2020
In the Presidential debate, Biden said there were law enforcement groups who supported him, but couldn't name any. Oh, but I guess that's not a lie, because it was said by someone you like. That just makes it "a fact that I've always known, now that I was just told to have always known it" in your eyes.
Biden did call the police the enemy during the same interview when he said they should have funds redistributed "defunded"Yes he did try againActually Biden called the police the enemy
That’s a lie
Nah. You're full of shit.
Cecilie1200
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Um, Biden has been denouncing violence from anyone and everyone over and over, including Antifa.And the question not asked, mr VP do you condemn antifa violence? I want to know whyLet’s look at what Trump actually said, shall we?
Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, I’m willing to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
Now, just because he didn't utter the words he had previously, they want to say he didn’t condemn them. Who gets to choose? Why must he continually be asked to condemn once he already has?Trump & Biden First Presidential Debate 2020 | Transcripts
Full transcript of the first 2020 presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The debate was moderated by Chris Wallace of Fox News on September 29, 2020 in Cleveland, Ohio.
His previous comments-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Um, at least since making excuses for it started to tank his poll numbers, he has . . . except NOT Antifa. Didn't you hear him last night? He doesn't have to denounce violence from them, because they don't exist.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
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He didn't condemn the KKK or the Proud Boys or the NPI or skinheads, etc... So that's who he meant are very fine people. Thanks for clearing that up.
Already posted it. Next...
Proud Boys arent an alt right group. Not sure what they are but they have African American members.
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Poor, ShortBus, Proud Boys participated in conceiving, promoting, sponsoring and attending the Unite the Right march. Nice to see you defending them.
loosen up on the tin foil hat you sound really over the top ignorant today.Why make believe that's a big deal repub idiot?? Why not ask your ah who he is in debt for for 4 hundred million and how he's paying putin off??One more lie from the Republican POS
Mike Reese
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In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.
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In the Presidential debate, Biden said there were law enforcement groups who supported him, but couldn't name any. Oh, but I guess that's not a lie, because it was said by someone you like. That just makes it "a fact that I've always known, now that I was just told to have always known it" in your eyes.
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